<p>prediction: rejected</p>
<p>honestly, if i get deferred, i'll be like "yess! i have one more chance!" i have pretty decent SAT I scores, decent SAT II scores, but my gpa is killing me (damn junior year...)</p>
<p>from what i've seen of all you guys, you seem totally qualified in terms of grades, scores, ECs - you're all definitely a step above me! so don't lose hope, guys - that's my job lol</p>
<p>prediction: deferred, then rejected (they'll want to look at my senior grades, then they'll see them)</p>
<p>My only thought is that it won't be an outright rejection. A deferral might as well be a rejection, though, because if I don't get in, I'm not going to sit around and wait for the small 10-11% chance I'll make it in the spring. I would probably do ED II somewhere else then.
This in no way means I'm not 100% wanting Penn and it's sad that this is the way it is. I really think ED should be abolished in favor of EA. Rant finished.</p>
<p>P.S. Actually, I just thought of something. I wonder how many people withdraw after being deferred, making the real chances of getting in higher than 10% (of the number left at that point)? Hmmmmmm.</p>
<p>I will be surprised if I get rejected, but very surprised if I get in. So... I don't think that makes sense. Whatever.</p>
<p>I'm allowed to apply to a rolling admissions school while still applied to Penn ED, correct?</p>
<p>I'm applying to UMich under RA but have already applied ED to Penn. This is acceptable, right? Thanks!</p>
<p>I know how you all feel. The stress increases as the decision day approches closer and closer. Those of you who stress out over your essay, don't worry about it. I spent several weeks on mine and when I got up here to Penn, someone I know who does work-study in the admission's office said that they don't even read the essays all of the time. She was telling me that they will normally just skim through some of them, if they even read it at all! Then I was talking to another who used to work in the admin office, and after what he told me, they usually DO NOT go over application packages very thoroughly. I mean, how could they? With 15,000+ applications and only a handful of officers, there's no way they can go over everyone's application piece by piece. Alot of times, it's just the luck-of-the-draw.</p>
<p>KRAbble - No question about it - you can definitely do that. There are at least 10 people doing it along with me this year at my school - I think that most if they don't get in ED to Penn will go there. </p>
<p>Based on when I submitted the Michigan app I'll likely hear from them end of December or early January. But if you haven't applied yet, it's theoretically not even an issue for you, since you won't hear from Michigan until after you hear from Penn.</p>
<p>But trust me on this one, you ARE allowed to do both.</p>
<p>I'm feeling really insecure about my chances at UMich. I haven't even started my essays and I just started the easy parts of my UMich application right now. The earliest I will probably be able to send my portion of the application is next week. Ugh..</p>
<p>It says that I can't rush score reports to them. So what should I do? Have CB send them regularly or something (which takes more than a month!)? Ugh..!!</p>
<p>ThomasH32 - really, that makes me feel worse! my essay's might be the only redeeming part of my whole application - my transcript sure won't be in my favor! T_T o well, i hope they take teacher recs into a lot of consideration, cuz i'm sure that's the strongest part of my whole app.</p>
<p>ThomasH32, what's the luck of the draw? How do they determine who's a good applicant or not?! :( It feels like such a waste of time if they're not even going to read the essay I slaved over.. grr!</p>
<p>Credentials are very important, but I think at times, from what I was told is that every year, the admissions offices get behind and so they start selecting applicants just by skimming their application/profiles instead of going through their package with great detail. That's what I mean by luck-of-the-draw. If we think the admissions office sits there and goes through our applications with a fine-tooth comb, we are all mistaken, so I have recently found out. I'm definitely NOT saying you shouldn't spend a lot of time and effort on your applications. I am just saying it is frustrating to go through all of that when probably more than half the time half of your application package isn't even read/looked over.</p>
<p>KRabble - I had the same thing happen to me and I was really steamed about it. Just assumed I could rush my scores to them along with the October scores I would be rushing to Penn. I was not happy to find out that it would take 3-5 weeks to send the scores. Yes, you'll have to have CB send them regular. </p>
<p>But my advice to you is, just get it in ASAP. Don't slave over the essays, every week you delay decreases your chances more than the essay will help. Just get it in. You'll get in there, though. Good luck.</p>
<p>ugh, yea i'm soooooo anxious too...i guess i'll havta wait till dec 14th :) GOOO QUAKERS!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>does anybody know if it's the regional director that gives the decision?</p>
<p>bluehunnydew - I think the way it works is that your regional rep is one of the first readers of your application. There may be more than one first reader and they basically rank things like rigor of curriculum, grades, SATs, recs, essays and extracurricular and personal circumstances. Then, based on that, my guess is that some of the apps are automatically in and some are automatically out. The ones that are left go to the committee and its there that the regional reps responsible for each area will bring up each application to the committee. At that point, it's very fast, and there is some kind of vote on each one. All this is from the Duke book by Rachel Toor, but I think its safe to guess it applies to other selective schools too. Penn may differ in some aspects from this scenario though.</p>
<p>damm There is like still more than 1 month to go!!</p>
<p>I really want to get in DAMM it</p>
<p>Is it really THAT important to get your rolling apps in really early...I mean if your really qualified you should get in. They aren't EXTREMELY competetive schools. Or am I being really naive here?</p>
<p>yeah, but its easier to just have it done. plus, as classes fill up, the admit rate drops (like from 65-50).</p>
<p>It's pretty important. Out of state standards for people applying to Michigan are MUCH tougher than the ranges you read about. My guess is that most people on this board would get in there, but I wouldn't want to wait til the last minute to test out that theory, they do fill up fast, and standards get tougher, the later that you wait. If you are talking about a state school where you live (like Penn State for me) there's a lot more flexibility.</p>
<p>PITT. Not Penn St. Duh............;)</p>