New Forbes Rankings out today

<p>Here's the full ranking:</p>

<p>America's</a> Best Colleges List - Forbes</p>

<p>and here's the ranking for anyone who just wants to see california schools:</p>

<p>America's</a> Best Colleges List - Forbes</p>

<p>here's a few sample rankings for cali schools:</p>

<p>UCLA is ranked 55; Santa Clara University is ranked 67; Berkeley is ranked 70; UC Davis is ranked 128; UCI is ranked 140; UCSD is ranked 161; and USC is ranked 165</p>

<p>While i don't mind seeing UCLA ranked higher than USC (or better yet Cal) How the hell does Santa Clara University rank higher than berkeley? or UCD and UCI rank higher than UCSD? or all of the above ranking higher than USC? These forbes rankings are suspect.</p>

<p>USC students are rather unsuccessful graduate students. (Less successful than the mid-tier UCs.) Also, the university’s prestige is most newly attained and most of its alumni are, in fact, historically not very bright. </p>

<p>Given that USC’s best students are still building their careers and a metric on “Who’s who?”, it wouldn’t be surprising to see USC ranked lowly.</p>

<p>Santa Clara is massively underrated by the general populace. It’s got great programs on certain things.</p>

<p>Forbes’ criteria are very different from the usual, so shouldn’t be surprising the results are different.</p>

<p>The Forbes rankings aren’t suspect, they’re a joke.</p>

<p>LOL, i was reading the methadology and 17.5% is based on Ratemyprofessors reviews, and 15% is based on payscale.com income.</p>

<p>in their PDF, they gave a pretty good defense of why they use RMP ratings. They said that even if they aren’t accurate for some teachers, it’s unlikely that they wouldn’t be accurate on a large scale, or that if they weren’t, then it would also probably hold true of other universities.</p>

<p>That being said, they never take into account that some universities might be using things like bruinwalk, and hence, a ranking might be boosted dramatically just due to the fact that people use one site over another for attaining their professor reviews.</p>

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<p>i still doubt there’s anyone anywhere who would hold that SCU is a better university than Cal.</p>

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<li><p>ALL of the rankings are flawed, not just Forbes’. But as long as they tell you the criteria they use, you are free to ignore it if you don’t like them.</p></li>
<li><p>But to say that the results are necessarily wrong because a certain school isn’t ranked high is classic begging the question…it’s like saying “school x should be ranked high because it’s a highly ranked school.”</p></li>
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<p>Any kind of rankings are better than USNWR rankings. I think that’s the biggest college related scam there is. These rankings are flawed but they are less so flawed than USNWR so I’ll take these over the idiots’s “holy grail of rankings” any day. My favorite and the least suspect is Times’s rankings though.</p>

<p>Eh… Take ALL rankings with a grain of salt… And more importantly, who cares? We all know UCLA is a good school, no matter what some list says.</p>

<p>There is a disparity between the Forbes list and USNWR list because if the two were to be the same no one would care for Forbes. USNWR has one of the oldest ranking systems. Cal is 70th.</p>