New President at Oberlin

<p>The presumptive new president at Oberlin is Marvin Krislov, presently the Vice President and General Counsel of the University of Michigan, who spearheaded the recent University of Michigan cases about the constitutionality of diversity considerations in college and university admissions. He graduated from Yale University in 1982, was a Rhodes Scholar and was awarded a master’s degree by Oxford University, Magdalen College in modern history in 1985, and received his J.D. from Yale University in 1988.</p>

<p>Sounds like a great choice.</p>

<p>Agree that he's very impressive. A good interview with him in campus newspaper: oberlin.edu/stupub/ocreview/</p>

<p>Let's hope the students don't give him too hard a time :)</p>

<p>Actually it sounds like an odd choice to me, based on what was stated above. This person has spent his whole career at large research universities?</p>

<p>Oxford is made up of small schools, as he points out in his application letter (it is on line), and law school is pretty small too. What is impressive about him is his commitment to education and ethics, his experience working with others in legal and academic contexts, and his fundraising skills. He seems to have negotiating and leadership experience that will stand him in good stead. And he looks like a nice fellow.</p>

<p>It seems to this Oberlin grad that Mr. Krislov will be just right for Oberlin. Though he's not a traditional 'academic,' he has been in the trenches on some important social and political issues. It will be nice to have a leader who has a reality-based perspective. Many Oberlin grads end up in law and other non-academic fields where they engage in one form or another of activism, so it will be a good thing to have a President who has been there and done that, and who can demonstrate that one can contribute to society in a number of different ways. Beyond this, his academic credentials are superb, and he should have no trouble communicating with and earning the respect of the students and faculty. On the whole, Mr. Krislov is just what the doctor ordered.</p>

<p>Krislov's answer:
"Oberlin is one of the great institutions of higher education, one that I hold in high regard. I love the business of higher education, and I think that Oberlin does a wonderful job. I’m a big fan of the arts; I love this intermix of the arts with academics that I see here. I’ve also just been so impressed with the people I’ve met here."</p>

<p>Yeah, all that- plus his wife's family lives in Toledo.</p>

<p>The phrase "I love this intermix of the arts with academics that I see here" definitely sends up a red flag for me.</p>

<p>I certainly consider the arts at Oberlin--the Con as well as College departments such as Art and Art History, Music, Theater and Dance, the list goes on--to be academic.</p>

<p>I don't see a red flag -- rather, an acknowledgment that one of the most attractive features of Oberlin is the connection between the college and conservatory and the art museum; a key point in the Strategic Plan is maximizing these connections and he is clearly speaking to that.<br>
I certainly hope the students at Oberlin will be open-minded about the new leadership -- as they are reputedly open-minded about other issues -- and not see things (flags, included) through red-colored glasses.</p>

<p>i suspect there will be a contingent that protests just because they're oberlin students and that's what oberlin students do. but i think there will be an even larger contingent who will be impressed by this guy's credentials and experience.</p>

<p>Even if some might otherwise be inclined (just to keep in practice), how will they have time to protest, it's like the middle of finals and then everyone's leaving. If d had even an extra hour of time on her hands now I think she might opt for sleep over protest.</p>

<p>Strategic timing for this announcement.</p>

<p>Here are some comments from a middle-aged Oberlin graduate who lives in the suburbs, has two teenage kids, and had nothing to do with the selection of the new President.</p>

<p>The timing of the announcement wasn't "strategic." Rather, it was made according to a timetable that was set up as soon as the current President announced her departure. </p>

<p>As some posters have noted, there will always be Obies (students and faculty) who will not be satisfied unless and until they are consulted about a decision and their individual wishes have been given the highest priority. There also will always be Obies who reject the whole idea that a President is needed. These crowds will tend to be louder than their numbers warrant. While they should certainly be heard, there is no mandate that they control a decision. </p>

<p>Mr. Krislov has excellent credentials: academic, practical, and personal. He has a lot of experience that ties very closely into the interests of the students and faculty. Given the number and variety of constituencies at Oberlin, it would be impossible to find a candidate who could be 'acceptable' on paper to everyone. The proof will be in the pudding, and Mr. Krislov will succeed or fail on his own merits. Remember that some of the most successful advocates for classical music and new music are not themselves musicians. </p>

<p>As for the "art v. academics" issue, Obies are sometimes too quick to look for conspiracies and hidden agendas. (Perhaps it's all that "close reading of the text." Or perhaps it's just human nature expressed in concentration.) When I was a student there, people spent far too much time reading tea leaves about motives and bickering about categories. There were a lot of folks who spouted dogma about ideals but then were quick to label people and give them the mental toss into the dustbin. There was all too much condescension toward lower and different socio-economic classes. </p>

<p>Fortunately, the vast majority of the Oberlin community had enough perspective to look beyond academic gossip and intramural disputes. Most people were able to focus on the bigger picture, and to acknowledge differences without demonizing. In a recent visit, it seemed that this was still true. If anything, there was more true dialogue and less ranting and raving than before. </p>

<p>Oberlin is a serious place which requires a serious commitment from its students, in the College and the Conservatory. Some people will spend much of their four (or sometimes five) years chatting, gossiping, and complaining. Maybe this can be beneficial for one person or another. On the whole, however, few people find it easy to justify sitting in the snack bar, drinking coffee and shooting the breeze, while Mom and Dad pay high tuition bills. Most Obies roll up their sleeves and dig into the hard work that is available everywhere: science, literature, performance, history, composition, and on and on. The school doesn't deserve to be portrayed (as it often is among high schoolers) as just a 'cool place to hang out.' On the other hand, it is a cool place and one can certainly hang out when time permits. </p>

<p>In the end, Oberlin needs a President who is respectful of diverse viewpoints, assumes that every individual has an innate dignity, and has the capacity to lead others to do the same. These qualities aren't acquired by enrolling in a particular graduate program or engaging in certain kinds of work. Just as Obies expect (and sometimes demand) to be treated with respect, so must they respect others. Let's see if the current faculty and students are up to the challenge.</p>

<p>Thanks for listening, and have a nice day!</p>

<p>Very well said, BanjoDad!!!</p>

<p>agree: Well said banjo dad</p>

<p>Have reviewed the stuff; impressive person.</p>

<p>I can see why he would want the job, as transition to administering the core "line" functions of an educational institution, vs. peripheral , though important, staff functions.</p>

<p>Down the road, with this experience in hand, I think a "big U" setting where he can adjunct at a law school could start looking like a more ideal fit for him . His significant legal experience could probably be more fully exploited there. He has spent his whole professional life working within some of the nation's hugest multi-division bureaucracies, while he and his family lived in much larger communities.</p>

<p>But then, few college presidents stay forever, IIRC the average tenure is something like five years. He's clearly a capable guy, and may well do a great job for Oberlin.</p>

<p>While Mr. Krislov's credentials are excellent, they do not necessarily qualify him <em>to lead</em> Oberlin College. I spent the last few days in Oberlin -- I took a road trip to MI from NY and stopped over for a few days to catch some of the end-of-the-semester concerts. I read the Oberlin Review's interview with him and was <em>appalled</em> by how little he knows about the school. I quote:</p>

<p>What changes would you bring to Oberlin? What are your goals for the first year of your presidency?</p>

<p>Krislov: I’m still a candidate and I don’t know a lot of details.</p>

<p>I've done a lot of hiring in my career. (My partner has also interviewed for mid-level positions at Harvard.) If a candidate for a position of significant responsibility ever responded to a "vision" question in a fashion similar to Mr. Krislov's I would never consider him or her for the position. My partner spent two days interviewing at Harvard detailing his vision for the available position, addressing an assembly of the faculty, etc., and he was applying for a mid-level position. Does Mr. Krislov know the history of Oberlin College? As a candidate for the presidency he should know it intimately. If he does know the history of Oberlin and is familiar with the current "state of the nation" how is it possible that he still does not "know a lot of the details." Sorry to rain on everyone's parade, but in my book such a response in damning and almost unforgivable. Oberlin needs a president who knows its history, knows its current challenges, and knows how to project its strengths and achievements into the future. Credentials aside, I remain unimpressed.</p>

<p>I respectfully disagree: I am certain that Mr. Krislov has a vision -- he wouldn't have gotten this far if he hadn't. But it is premature to talk to the "press," even the student press, about what he will do in a job that he hasn't officially gotten. From what I've heard, the students are very behind this guy.</p>

<p>Here is his letter of application:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.oberlin.edu/presidentsearch/krislov/application.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.oberlin.edu/presidentsearch/krislov/application.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>The Oberlin Review can be a bit spotty. I would not want to form an opinion on anything based solely on its contents.</p>

<p>In an earlier post, I wrote that "there will always be Obies (students and faculty) who will not be satisfied unless and until they are consulted about a decision and their individual wishes have been given the highest priority." With reference to post no. 16, it appears that this statement applies to some alumni as well. </p>

<p>Without a hard agenda, it's hard to interpret any part of the brief Oberlin Review 'interview' (if you can call it that) as "damning and almost unforgivable." Mr. Krislov was asked what he would do in his first year. If he had announced anything remotely specific, he would have been condemned for having decided on goals before consulting the students and faculty! Or worse: he would have been the target of protests by any constituency which felt "left out" of his answer. </p>

<p>The writer of no. 16 condemns Mr. Krislov for a variety of illusory offenses based on a snippet from a student newspaper. The question and answer had nothing to do with "the history of the school." In any event, Mr. Krislov is at this very moment on campus for a series of meetings with -- you guessed it -- students, faculty, and the other major players. I'm pretty sure that he won't be quizzed on his knowledge of Charles Finney, John Mercer Langston, Charles Martin Hall, Harkness Co-Op, or Liz Phair. I'm also pretty sure that Mr. Krislov is well aware of Oberlin's history. It's hard to have even a fleeting interaction with an Obie and NOT hear about it. </p>

<p>Some habits never die. </p>

<p>I hope the year-end recitals were good.</p>

<p>"While Mr. Krislov's credentials are excellent, they do not necessarily qualify him <em>to lead</em> Oberlin College."</p>

<p>I kind of agree with this, at least as far as conventional qualification goes, but for other reasons.</p>

<p>His credentials are excellent as a lawyer, and a staff administrator/manager of law departments in huge multi-division bureaucracies.</p>

<p>His credentials as an educator are minimal at best- surprised the faculty would accept this. </p>

<p>And his credentials in executive positions in "line" functions of an educational institution are non-existent.</p>

<p>To me, he seems like an unconventional candidate.</p>

<p>Nancy Dye came from a much more established, normal path for this job, through "line" positions directly involved in a college's core mission, not staff positions, and at a similar institution.</p>

<p>As another example, here is the background of Wesleyan's new president:
graduate of the college, rose through the ranks as an academic at a quality LAC, successful president at another college which focuses on the arts:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.wesleyan.edu/presidentialsearch/announcement.htt%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.wesleyan.edu/presidentialsearch/announcement.htt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>However, being unconventional does not condemn one to failure. He could wind up being great, even much better than someone who came through the ranks in the normal fashion. He could accurately have been assessed as the best person for the job.</p>

<p>I have to believe that the people charged with deciding these matters took a lot of evidence that I'm not privy to into account and soundly and appropriately concluded that this is the right move . It would be unthinkable that they would make such a decision irresponsibly, on merely a whim or a hunch.</p>

<p>However I said exactly the same thing in response to the Iraq invasion.</p>