<p>Can whites or asians make a prestigious private college with an SAT below 2000? I read that a bunch of kids got perfect 2400s on the new test!</p>
<p>only 107 kids nationally received a 2400 from the March test. </p>
<p>Take a look at the Ivy stats for the old SAT - median well above 700 for each math and verbal, so you should just assume that 2100 is gonna be necessary, or at least 1400+ on CR and math to even be competitive on the low stat side for those schools. There is no info on what the selective schools will do with the new writing, except for the UC's which will use it for admissions purposes.</p>
<p>(btw: IMO, the new math and new CR are not that much different than the old math and old verbal.)</p>
<p>if u dont break 2000 thats less then a 1400 on the old SAT</p>
<p>u need to break 2100s to remain competitive</p>
<p>If you need a 1400 (old) to break into any of the ivies, you'd need on average a 2100 on the new test.</p>
<p>With a 2000 you'd avg. 666 per test. This is both an unlucky number ( :) ) and 600's really lower your chance of being ivy-material. But if you're an extraordinary candidate you could get in with 1800, and URM status lowers things too.</p>
<p>2400 is much harder to get than 1600, btw.
And the crapshoot principle still applies here- the majority of 1600s get dinged at HYP, and you can expect just as many 2400s to get dinged.</p>
<p>So go to Vegas and practice.</p>
<p>2100 is enough for</p>
<p>From what I've heard, breaking 2100 is good enough. Not too sure about 2000 being good enough, though. In any case, SAT is only one factor in admissions; having a below-2100 score won't make you chances of admission gone.</p>
<p>My friend got into UPenn with a 1360 or some stat like that. No legacy or connections, very selective program. So chill out, overly diligent college-obsessed people.</p>
<p>I guess you would need to break around 2100 to be competitve, but if your other stats are really good, you can probably get in with around 1900.</p>
<p>what about at 2090? would that be close enough or would you <em>have</em> to break 2100. I know SATs arent' the only thing they look at, but would it look bad if you were really close to it? :-</p>
<p>I still think the key is the sum of the first two parts- those that are comparable to the old SAT. So- over a 1400 on Math + CR is a good benchmark. There are those that get into highly selective schools with lower scores, and those that are rejected with much higher scores. The new writing score is still an unknown and most colleges won't consider it as strongly as the first two sections.</p>
<p>suggest that you take a look-see at the accepted ranges by school (on thier websites); it is likely to be much higher for H, Y & P than it is for Cornell. But, human nature being what it is, it is always better to have stats above the mean. You never want the adcom to be thinking....hmmm, if I accept this kid, our average gpa/test scores go down....not good for USN&WR nor alumni.....</p>
<p>how much does urm status lower stuff?</p>
<p>i am mexican american, so does it lower the barrier tremendously?</p>
<p>no, there is no barrier</p>
<p>Ivies used to deny many ppl with 1550s+
so thats quite unpredictable...</p>
<p>I guess that to be competitive for Ivies SAT-wise, u need around 2200 these days.. unless u are a minority, then 2100</p>
<p>3 of my friends got 2400s! I unfortunately did much worse and took it again in May with hopeful results!</p>
<p>Yes, you don't need to break 2000 for the Ivy League. Just make sure it's a school that doesn't take the Writing portion into account, score 800/800/200, and VOILA! 1800!</p>
<p>About 1.2 million people graduate from high school every year. In 2003, about 760 people got a perfect 1600 on the SAT. Of these, about two thirds applied to Harvard and less than 200 were accepted. The Ivy Leagues try to build freshman classes that represent the diversity of society. Being a under represented minority will help. Also being from North Dakota will also help since they like to say that they have students from all 50 states. </p>
<p>Anyone applying to the HYPSM schools should think of the application process as a lottery to some extent. For every person accepted, there are four or five almost identical applicants who are denied. </p>
<p>A score of 2000 is low for a white/asian applicant. When looking at the 50% SAT ranges, remember that they accept higher percentages during ED; and during RD, they accept higher percentages of URM's, legacies, development cases and VIP's.</p>
<p>Another point is that all of the Ivy Leagues are not in the same class. HYP are much more selective than Brown or Cornell.</p>
<p>BarryD, anything over 1950 would be ok, but obviously, the better you do, the better off you are. I have known students who got into the mega selective schools (like MIT, Harvard, Stanford etc...) with 1250s on their SATs, so even an 1800 in the new SAT will not disqualify a student from the Ivys. </p>
<p>But, to have a reasonable shot at any of the Ivies, you probably want an SAT score over 2100. Still, I urge you to understand that the SAT is than 20% of the equation. GPA, class rank, ECs and Essays are all at least as important. I have known many students who were equal in almost everyway. Same background, race and nationality. Simlar class ranks and ECs. Sam course selection and GPAs. But in many instances, the one with the lower SAT scores got into the more selective schools. The primary reason for this is because the students with lower SATs felt they had to make up for it by writing excellent essays and given a choice between a student with a 2000 on the SAT but amazing essay and a student with a 2250 on the SAT but mediocre essays, most adcoms would probably chose the 2000 student.</p>
<p>Well Princeton told my recruited football friend that he needed a 3.2 GPA and the equivelant of an old 1200 on the SAT...</p>