<p>I have narrowed it down to these two...I'm out of state for both with no financial aid or money to either. I'm looking at premed (majoring in biology and maybe a minor in physchology). i loved cornell...but i also love UofM...i'm not sure which one I like more...I wish i could have spent more time at Michigan but i didn't. my parents want me to go to UofM becuz it's closer...but stil...41K is a lot to spend and Cornell is only 6 K more. how is UMich in terms of premed? Should I pick it over Cornell?</p>
<p>Both are great schools. As you can see, many are trying to chose between those two great universities at the moment, and that's because they are so similar. In terms of Biology/premed, I'd say they are about the same, with a slight edge going to Cornell. But that shouldn't be the determining factor because we are talking about a fraction of a difference, if at all. Go with you gut on this one. You really cannot go wrong.</p>
<p>Go with the better value if you feel both schools are similar. Out of State tuition for UMich is crazy!</p>
<p>Trisweept, Michigan is the better value in this case. It costs $25,000 less to attend Michigan over 4 years.</p>
<p>that's true...i really like both places...i guess I'm turning into a name whore when I think of "cornell" but then again, UofM has crazy name rec out of the country (my entire family in India knows of it)...in terms of GPA...as a premed student I know 3.4 is really awesome at cornell...would it be possible to get a 3.5+ at UofM??? if so...I think i'd lean more towards UofM because getting into med schools is a lot about GPA and i heard cornell is agaisnt the whole grade inflation...how is UofM in terms of grading? oh and also...I'm in the LSA Honors program..what extacly does that mean?</p>
<p>Both Michigan and Cornell grade harshly, but not as harsly as you'd think. Maintaining a 3.4 GPA at Cornell and a 3.5 GPA at Michigan isn't that hard, you just have to study hard. But then again, isn't that the case with all pre-meds?</p>
<p>The honors program at Michigan means that you will be taking a lot of your classes within the honors college. Smaller classes and easier grading because of the calibre of the students.</p>
<p>I'm sorry to sound like an idiot..but why would the grading be easier with a better bunch of students? wouldn't that make it more competitive?</p>
<p>No, not quite. A university like Michigan has very high standards. Its professors will not grade gently. In a typical class, professors will have a much tougher curve than in an honors class, where the average student is stronger.</p>
<p>i heard honors kids get different housing too..is that true? also...how is the advising at UMich..it's amazing at Cornell...does UofM take care of its kids even if there are 25,000 of us</p>
<p>Yes, honors students are housed in South Quad. It is a pretty nice dorm, albit a huge one, and centrally located. </p>
<p>Advising is always the student's responsibility. You aren't going to be hand-held at Michigan or at Cornell. If you take the initiative, you can get excellent advising at Michigan, but it really depends on you.</p>
<p>so do you think it's worth the out of state tution to pay for UMich over Cornell (which is still a few K more expensive)?Do you think i'll end up with a similar future at both if i work hard? oh and how's the UofM social life...I know Cornell's is pretty craaazy.</p>
<p>oh and I've also heard the UMich's med school accpetance rate is falsely high becuz they don't allow some kids with low stats to apply to med schools where as other schools dont have any screening process...myth or fact?</p>
<p>Michigan and Cornell are peers, so they provide the same type quality of education and the same opportunities. I would not worry so much about the cost since they are both very expensive.</p>
<p>In terms of social life, both are great (and "craaazy" if you wish it to be) , but Cornell is more limited than Michigan. Ithaca's primary social offerings are partying and cultural events. Ann Arbor, on top of offering what Ithaca offers, is a larger city with many more social venues. Furthermore, Detroit (which has a very active music and entertainment industry) is nearby, and you can never forget about big-time college sports at Michigan.</p>
<p>In the end, you really need to go where you feel most comfortable. You really cannot go wrong.</p>
<p>It is neither a myth or a fact...it is completely false. Who told you that? Most private universities inflate their medical school placement rates by screening weaker students out of the medical school application process. As a state university, Michigan must encourage all students who wish to apply to medical school. If anything, that's why Michigan's medical school placement is sloghtly lower than some of its private peers. Michigan's medical school placement rate is about 60%. Most top private universities have a placement of 70%-80%. Michigan's placement into medical school for 3.4+ (with solid MCAT scores of course) students is roughly 80%.</p>
<p>By the way Belleza, you say your entire family is in India. Are you a US citizen? Getting into Medical school in the US if you aren't American is very difficult. I have known non-US citizens with near 4.0 GPAs at Michigan and 35+ MCAT composites who were rejected by every US medical school they applied to.</p>
<p>no, i'm born and raised US citizen..first generation indian with parents from India. So don't worry..but thanks for the concern!</p>
<p>Good. Ok, well, like I said, you really cannot go wrong. Both are great universities. I personally get the feeling that you feel Cornell more than Michigan. If that's the case, go for Cornell. You really need to go with your gut in those cases.</p>
<p>i'M not sure...I had previously ruled out UofM and it was between Cornell and Berkeley..however, I was at Berkeley for an overnight program and realized I didn't fit in too well with the kids but i LOVED the environment and area (which mny many ppl compare to UofM)..however, i had an interview at UofM for my Berkeley scholarship (how ironic!)...the second i stepped on campus I was in love...i realized all over again why I'd wanted to go to UofM for the last few years...i remeber comparing it to ithaca thinking..psh, this place blows "ithaca" out of the water....and ive even got friends going to UofM and none going to Cornell...I'm really not sure where I'm leaning. I think I'm harder on UofM on the UofM board and harder on Cornell on the Cornell board...just playing devil's advocate i suppose...but i am a little turned off that i didn't get a single penny from UofM and a ton of my friends with equal or lower apps got 10 to 20 k....it kinda sucks....and still UofM is cheaper...I'm definately already a UofM fan (haha even though I live in South Bend where ND is located)....wow...I'm not sure i actually change my mind everyday....actually every hour of every day...</p>
<p>Cal and Michigan are similar in that they are elite public universities. Along with UVA, they are the only state schools that are comparable to elite private universities. However, that's where the similarities end. I too go into Cal and after visiting, I realized it was not for me. It somehow lacks the cohesion that Michigan and Cornell have. </p>
<p>Michigan's strength isn't merely limited to its academics (which are top 10-15 nationally) or its alumni network (which is one of the largest, most irrationally and fiercely loyal and most successful/influential networks to be found anywhere). It goes beyond that. Ann Arbor is magical. I have travelled to over 40 countries in 5 continents and lived in 7 countries in 3 continents. In all my travels, I have yet to see a town as unique and special as Ann Arbor. And of course, one cannot forget the amazing athletic tradition. </p>
<p>But Michigan isn't for everyone. One must truly take initiative to take full advantage of the Michigan opportunity.</p>
<p>Michigan has its own hospital on campus; does Cornell offer that? Experience volunteering in a hospital and also shadowing a doctor will be very important for Med school applications as far as I know.</p>