<p>I'm thinking of just submitting my ACT w/ writing to Wharton... but Wharton suggests that applicants send in SAT2 Math2 scores as well.</p>
<p>What do you think would happen if I don't send in an SAT2 math2 score?</p>
<p>They don’t just “suggest” it, they “strongly suggest it”.
Unless you have a really great ACT math score, I wouldn’t skip the subject test. You can still take it in November or December and get it to them in time.</p>
<p>My ACT math score is a 36, but would that really be a “substitute” for the math2 subject test?</p>
<p>Another question I guess: It’s okay to send just the math2 subject test score but not all my SAT scores right? Meaning I can pick to send certain subject tests and not have to send the entire SATI as well.</p>
<p>You should probably take the SAT2 in Math 2. If you scored a 36 on the math section of the ACT, you should do well on the SAT2 as well.</p>
<p>Regarding your other question: No, you have to send all scores to Penn. Penn does not allow score choice, so every standardized test SAT1, SAT2, and ACT you’ve taken must be submitted. If you’ve already taken the SAT1, you have to submit that regardless of whether or not you end up taking the SAT2. Then of course if you take the SAT2, you have to submit that as well. They say they will focus on the score that makes you look better, so if your ACT is awesome, but your SAT1 is average, it should not hurt you.</p>
<p>If you have a 36 math score, you have nothing to fear about the math subject test.</p>
<p>My understanding was that if you send the ACT, you don’t need to send the subject tests at all. But if you send the SAT then you should select either math1 or math2 for Wharton, chemistery for Nursing, and some specifics for Engineering.</p>
<p>I called U Penn and they were definitive about sending ALL test scores (all ACT, all SAT, and all Subject tests.) So, even if you rely on your ACT, you still need to send all your Subject test scores even if you don’t plan on taking any more. Don’t play with fire. It is grounds for rejection later if you don’t comply with their rules.</p>
<p>I thought Penn’s policy regarding score choice is specific to either the SATI + 2 SATII or ACT + writing. @HouseGeneral I called the admissions office too and they said it was fine if I took the SAT and ACT and decided to only send my ACT. I wish they weren’t so confusing about this issue :/</p>
<p>Yes, you definitely need to send all tests taken, but I just checked my notes from their info session. If you submit the ACT, you don’t need to send in any subject tests. I wasn’t sure if the original poster had already taken the subject test or was trying to figure out whether to take it.</p>
<p>I called their admissions office and asked for them to clarify the confusion regarding standardized testing. Stanford’s policy is clear cut “send anything and everything you’ve ever taken” while other schools’ policies are “if you’ve taken test X, then send all scores from all the times you’ve taken test X.”</p>
<p>I told them I had taken SATI, SATIIs, and ACT w/ writing. I asked if I could just submit my ACT w/ writing and not send in any SAT scores and the person said I would fine. I wouldn’t hurt my chances or anything.</p>
<p>And I just took the mathII subject test this morning- my SATI and other subject tests are not great and I’m afraid they wouldn’t be the best I had to show, which is why I’m submitting my ACT w/ writing. I’m just confused as to whether I’m obligated to send everything (from both tests).</p>
<p>"Penn requires freshman applicants to submit either:
the SAT (which includes the Critical Reading, Math, and Writing sections) and two SAT Subject Tests </p>
<p> OR
the ACT Plus Writing</p>
<p>No preference is given to either test. Penn requires applicants to submit their entire testing history. Although Penn will pay attention to the highest scores from any test or subsection when reviewing a candidates application, having the complete testing profile provides deeper insight."</p>
<p>So this is ambiguous. SAT or ACT but entire testing history. Can be interpreted a few ways. But, the admission counselor was clear when I called. If I’ve taken a test, they want to see it. I can choose the SAT or ACT but if I’ve taken both, I must send both. I don’t want to chance it.</p>
<p>HouseGeneral,</p>
<p>I agree. It’s not worth it to not send my SAT scores. I just hope that my relatively worse SAT score doesn’t hurt me much in the overall scheme of things. Darn ambiguity.</p>
<p>Frank, I would not worry at all with an ACT test of 36. You could always call the admissions office again – nothing to lose – just to see if they want the SAT scores with the ACT (even though the web site sounds like they do). But you’ll be in great shape.</p>
<p>You really need to send a SAT2 math score for admissions to get a sense of your abilities</p>
<p>I think the rigor of your math curriculum along with your grades (and possible AP score) will also give a great sense of your abilities.</p>
<p>Although great, a 36 on ACT math just shows that you’re very good at high school math (algebra, geometry, trig).</p>
<p>If you don’t have any standardized scores in higher math (i.e. AP Scores from Calc / Physics C or MathII SAT2) you may be at a disadvantage.</p>
<p>If you come from a heavy ACT state (e.g. Iowa), you can probably get away with just an ACT score.</p>
<p>So I have taken the ACT+writing, two SAT subject tests and two normal SAT tests.
I don’t want to send any SAT’s at all.
Do I have to?</p>
<p>You don’t have to send anything. That just makes it faster and easier for them to reject you.</p>
<p>If you don’t send everything, there might be references in the material your school sends or in your recommendations.</p>
<p>Well, dear wordworker do I hear a little sarcasm in your words? 
So basically UPenn requires me to send everything I have ever taken?</p>
<p>ps.
I am not from the US, so my school doesn’t even know I took those tests. I know what my recommenders wrote because they showed it to me. There is nothing that would hurt me.</p>