<p>What are some good international (outside the U.S.) schools that only look at a SATs and AP scores. I'm just outside the top 10% of my class because I slacked off a lot, but my SAT scores and AP scores are good (don't know exact scores until May 22 and July, but practice test scores are usually 700+ per section). </p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Sorry, I realized that I didn't post this in the College Search section, so if the mods could move it, that'd be good.</p>
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What are some good international (outside the U.S.) schools that only look at a SATs and AP scores.
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<p>These carry little currency outside the US. I'd be surprised if there were such schools. Do you expect every place in the world to bow down to US hegemony?</p>
<p>Now on the other hand the International Baccalaureate is internationally-recognised.</p>
<p>american colleges are the best.</p>
<p>Those in Asia...
Hong Kong University (was my safety for a while)
Tokyo University
Nanyang Tech (Singapore)</p>
<p>These are some big names. Also I am not sure about UK. Anyone enlighten us please?</p>
<p>There's NUS ... but gee, SAT and AP scores go on top of transcripts mostly everywhere else.</p>
<p>Admission to Canadian schools is almost entirely dependent on grades/test scores. Some schools are moving to consider ECs as well, but in general, the essays/recs/ECs that are required for US admissions is only considered for major scholarships in Canada.</p>
<p>yeah UK schools are entirely score based.U will need predicted final grades though</p>
<p>I don't think he's asking to escape EC's guys ... just his transcript.</p>
<p>Being outside the top 10% sucks if you want to attend one of those schools with an exceptionless "within the top 10%" requirement, but otherwise, this seems overly drastic.</p>
<p>Are the OP's parents willing to pay full fare for overseas education?</p>
<p>Oxford and Cambridge put a lot of weight on SAT scores and APs. As long as you have enough APs they care much less about non-AP grades and do not ask about class rank, as far as I know.
However, 700 on each section is their MINIMAL requirement for SAT.</p>
<p>are you serious?
you are just outside the top 10% because you slacked off???</p>
<p>10% is a great gpa. Even a little outside of that, your gpa must still be fantastic. </p>
<p>Do you think that hurts your chances at top US schools or something???Think again. The Ivy league doesnt deny people because they are barely outside of the top 10% of their class.</p>
<p>Also, are you asking about schools that teach in English?</p>
<p>Oxford and Cambridge admissions value AP test scores and the interview the most ide say. But for British schools you have to know what you want to study before entering, and you must know a lot about your subject too, before your interview, as most of the questions are academics based.</p>
<p>Other schools that put lots of value on test scores, specifically APs, is London School of Economics and UCL and Imperial.</p>
<p>You could also look at Australian schools, too, like U Sidney, U melbourne.</p>
<p>galosien: My parents are okay with paying overseas tuition, considering attending Rutgers in-state will end up being 20,000 anyway, and most of the schools in the UK charge less than 10,000 for international students (not including room & board I assume)</p>
<p>BIGTWIX: The fact that I have a few Cs on my transcript isn't the only reason I want to go somewhere overseas, I really like to travel and would love to attend school outside the US. </p>
<p>Most of the UK suggestions you guys gave require 3 APs with 5s by the end of junior year, I'm one of 5 juniors taking 3 AP courses and I only took 2 tests. I have the hardest course load in my school which kind of explains my low rank but I also slack off. Some of the dumbest kids in school have a higher rank than me which is really stupid. My school doesn't officially disclose rank, unless the student asks that it be sent out (which I will considering that 15% looks better than 2 Cs)</p>
<p>I was looking at McGill in Montreal, University of Edinburgh, St. Andrews, Kings College London, but not all their websites give "entry requirements". University of Glasgow would be a safety for me considring they only want 1800 and 650s on SAT IIs, but I don't know how good of a school it is. </p>
<p>The colleges I've been considering in the US are Rutgers, Colgate, and maybe William & Mary (oos) and Boston College.</p>
<p>Thanks again for all your help.</p>
<p>10,000 POUNDS, perhaps. I'm heading to Oxford next year, and the international cost is certainly comparable to FA-less American private universities, albeit for a three-year course. But yes - they never looked at my high school transcript, just at APs, SATs, SATIIs, in addition to my personal statement, recommendation, submitted written work, and, of course, the interview.</p>
<p>EDIT: You don't necessarily need three APs by the end of junior year. If you are given an offer, however, it will be conditional on achieving extra 4s or 5s at the end of your senior year.</p>
<p>^Thanks, you definitely gave me some hope.</p>
<p>If I get 4s or 5s on AP Eng Lang and US History, and 750+ in Math II and Bio, and hopefully 2100+ then I'll apply to Edinburgh and Kings. Sorry for my ignorance, but is it a standard practice for UK universities to ask for "submitted written work". And if it helps at all I'm looking at either Neuroscience, Psychology, or Philosophy; haven't really made a decision on that yet.</p>
<p>Edit: I just looked at the Edinburgh website and found this, it might help others in the same situation as me.</p>
<p>SAT score of 1800 (600 minimum in Critical Reading, Mathematics and Writing) plus two APs at Grade 4
No mention of transcript, w00t!!! Tuition is also roughly 20,000 US dollars w/o Room & Board.</p>
<p>Edinburgh and McGill are now my top two choices.</p>
<p>Oh and ajadedidealsit: how was your counselor during the application process, was he/she helpful or did he/she have no idea what to do.</p>
<p>OMG THIS THREAD IS MY LIFE. I considered a bunch of the same schools and got into UCL, Kings, St. Andrews, York, McGill, BC... This list goes on. I got in with a 2100 SATI, 650+ SATIIs, and 4 APs.</p>
<p>I was dead set on McGill for like a year, but then I visited Edinburgh in March and I fell in love with the city. I know that I want to do biology in college - but I don't know much more than that. Edinburgh's great because it gives me the opportunity to really figure out what I want to specialize in.</p>
<p>I'm not sure if a 1800 will cut it for Edinburgh... I know they accept idiots, but I'm pretty sure you'd need at least a 2000. Either way it was my safety school and I'm extremely happy with my choice. PM me if you have any questions.</p>
<p>This sounds like a very interesting idea. I should have just loaded up on self-study AP's instead of wasting my time with worthless homework from classes all these years, and then applied abroad.</p>
<p>That would leave me with an extra year to take a gap year and do some exploration before really getting down to work in a new environment (bored of this same old ****).</p>
<p>I would have grown several fold academically and not had to hate school so much all these years. DON'T LET YOURSELF GET TRAPPED BY THE SYSTEM, I wish I hadn't</p>
<p>ahhhcollege: Are you attending Edinburgh now? I doubt I'll be able to visit because of the distance but I really like the Mind & Language Program (Linguistics, Philosophy, Psychology, and Cognitive Sciences), what was your visit like? How are the people there? I'll be visiting Montreal in June, how would you compare McGill, Edinburgh, and BC? I know its a lot of questions but I would really appreciate help from a first-hand applicant. </p>
<p>ee33ee: Same here, I should've taken non-honors classes gotten a good rank, then self studied 8 APs, but hey hindsight is always 20/20.</p>
<p>I realized all this a little late... I applied to London School of Economics half-heartedly, but my application was late. If you have any questions, post them here or go to <a href="http://www">www</a>. the student room .co.uk (without spaces).</p>
<p>But hey you're... willing to self-study 8 AP's but don't want to put up with school's academic ********. Definitely go ahead with your plans, if you're anything like me... I know I need a dramatic shift in environment to get me out of slacker mode too, and a foreign land can be a refreshing gust after 12 years of homogeneous institutionalized suburban monotony.</p>
<p>I'm not there now, I'll be there next year.</p>
<p>I'm from around Boston but I haven't been to BC. I applied because of the reputation it has in Massachusetts (it's definately the most sought after school)... It's just too "collegey" meaning that you have to live on campus all four years, eat in the dining halls... There's the quads, sports, parties, EVERYTHING. Great if you don't want to go far away.</p>
<p>Montreal is AMAZING, I visited in august and it was beautiful. You'll see when you visit. Edinburgh's a bit smaller and easier to navigate, but it's a truly european city that you'll die for (if you ever visit, you need to see it at one point). Program wise the two schools were too similar to even compare; McGill has strong Edinburgh roots. When I visited McGill I had the big thirty person tour, but when I visited Edinburgh they set up an individual meeting and the guy sat me down for 90 minutes and talked about the program, then took me on a tour of the buildings. I loved how they were more than willing to do that for me - I just felt a bit better around the people at Edinburgh. At McGill waiting for the tour to start it was like waiting in the doctors office, thirty of us were crammed in one room and no one talked.</p>
<p>^Thanks so much for the response.</p>
<p>Quick question about the application process, how did you send your AP, SAT, SAT II scores to the University of Edinburgh and how was your counselor during the process? </p>
<p>I was looking at the UCAS application, and didn't see room for any AP scores or SAT scores, do you just send them through the score reporting service. If that is the case, who exactly do you send it to UCAS or each individual school. </p>
<p>I have a feeling my counselor won't know what to do considering I'm probably the first person shes ever had apply to schools in the UK.</p>
<p>I know its a lot of questions, but I don't know who else to ask.</p>
<p>"galosien: My parents are okay with paying overseas tuition, considering attending Rutgers in-state will end up being 20,000 anyway, and most of the schools in the UK charge less than 10,000 for international students (not including room & board I assume)</p>
<p>BIGTWIX: The fact that I have a few Cs on my transcript isn't the only reason I want to go somewhere overseas, I really like to travel and would love to attend school outside the US. </p>
<p>Most of the UK suggestions you guys gave require 3 APs with 5s by the end of junior year, I'm one of 5 juniors taking 3 AP courses and I only took 2 tests. I have the hardest course load in my school which kind of explains my low rank but I also slack off. Some of the dumbest kids in school have a higher rank than me which is really stupid. My school doesn't officially disclose rank, unless the student asks that it be sent out (which I will considering that 15% looks better than 2 Cs)</p>
<p>I was looking at McGill in Montreal, University of Edinburgh, St. Andrews, Kings College London, but not all their websites give "entry requirements". University of Glasgow would be a safety for me considring they only want 1800 and 650s on SAT IIs, but I don't know how good of a school it is. </p>
<p>The colleges I've been considering in the US are Rutgers, Colgate, and maybe William & Mary (oos) and Boston College.</p>
<p>Thanks again for all your help."</p>
<p>Unfortunately, it's now getting to be a bit more than that now- and you do realize that fee is quoted in GBP?</p>