nomination vs appointment

<p>My d just heard she received a nomination from our congressman - she has heard she is academically and medically qualified previously - what happens next? is there anything she should do? when does she hear about an appointment?</p>

<p>That’s great news! Did your daughter get more than one nomination? If so that is even better! Now, you have to play the waiting game. Have her contact her Blue and Gold Officer. They should be able to see in their records/online file on her if her package has been sent to the board or not. They WILL NOT tell her if she received an appointment or not b/c we as BGOs are not allowed to do so, you have to wait on a letter from USNA.</p>

<p>But then you’ll at least know if her package has even been boarded.</p>

<p>Good luck!!</p>

<p>V/r,
USNA 2002
NAPS 1998
BGO</p>

<p>To get an appointment you need to be selected from all who are 3Q and have an appointment (assuming you didn’t have an LOA). Getting a NOM is not a guarantee of an appointment, but means you are still in the running.</p>

<p>You don’t mention if she’s completed the CFA. If not, have her do so. That will complete the package. If that’s done, continue to push as the finish line is in sight but there are others racing to get there too.</p>

<p>yes she did the cfa in SEP - never heard results but assume OK (XC captain,)
Did let BGO know - thx for the replies - we’ll wait patiently I Guess
Any ideas of timing?</p>

<p>it really all depends. USNA views records in groups and I believe only a few days out of the month, they use rolling submissions so probably will depend on where her packet is in the cue. Your BGO should be able to at least tell you if her packet is being looked at…also, if you want to know how she scored on the CFA the BGO can get that info as well.</p>

<p>thx usna 02
she did get a second i think - our senator sent a letter saying she is one of his 10 names submitted to the academy - does that make sense?
also - do they have programs for kids with appointments to visit to make sure its the right choice?</p>

<p>There is no advantage to getting multiple noms w/ one exception: If an ensuing nomination is a principal, thus trumping previous unranked nom(s). Only one is needed, only one is utilized. The advantage of multiples is for the Academy, as it provides some flexibility in appointment mix. So the adage, more is better, is “true,” potentially for 2 purposes.</p>

<p>Many states do not provide multiples, with Senate and MOC officers coordinating to prevent such. Still, other states do not coordinate and provide multiples.</p>

<p>Yes, USNA does provide limited opportunities for candidates to visit. These are called Candidate Visitation Weekends. They are by invitation only. However, for candidates NOT receiving invitations and desiring that exposure, should ask their admissions officer. Often they will extend additional invites to those interested. Not always, but often. </p>

<p>I’d guess there are maybe 3 of these remaining at USNA. Anyone know the dates?</p>

<p>Hopefully your daughter has previously visited the academy (anyone can visit during the day by showing a photo ID) and understands what all she is signing on for. I wouldn’t wait until you get an appointment to fully understand what this is all about. Sounds like she has not tried to attend Summer Seminar but Candidate Visit Weekends are another possibility. It would be a terrible mistake to show up on I-day without fully understanding the expectations. Actually, you should visit any college you are seriously considering attending.</p>

<p>thanks - she did a weekend there and loved it - mom has to be sold too!
went to pick her up and it was a football game w/ beautiful weather - dad loved it!</p>

<p>didn’t get to summer seminar - from PA and was told too many applied from our area
when do you have to accept (may 1 like other schools?) hopefully she has the decision to make</p>

<p>In my day, attrition at the service academies roughly ran around 33%. Today, it is around 10%. </p>

<p>Us alums are found of saying that it’s easier now. I think there is some truth to that, but also, many of us didn’t really know what we were getting into. There was no internet. We couldn’t watch Sea Trials on YouTube or watch somebody give a chow call. There weren’t discussion forums for people to answer your question. If you desperately needed an answer to something, you would have to write a letter. Flying to the academy was very cost prohibitive because, in today’s dollars, flying is much cheaper than it was decades ago.</p>

<p>So, it was very common for candidates to show-up on I-day not knowing any more about the academy than what they could figure out by reading their admissions catalog.</p>

<p>A nominal new class is about 1200. In our day, roughly 800 would graduate. Nowadays, they are routinely graduating over 1000. That was unheard of decades ago.</p>

<p>Instead of trying to “weed out the weak”, today, the emphasis is on retention. Today, midshipmen are given many second (and third) chances that would have certainly resulted in expulsion years ago.</p>

<p>I currently have twins who are 3/C (i.e. sophomores) at the Naval Academy. I picked them up for Thanksgiving recently. One said, “Oh crap! I forgot to bring my flip flops. I left them in my room. I wanted those.” We had barely gone out the gate. I offered to turn around and allow him to get them.</p>

<p>He says to me, “No. They’ve probably already locked up the rooms. I’d have to go to Main Office and it will take HOURS to get somebody to unlock my room.”</p>

<p>I asked, “Your room is locked? Why would it be locked?”</p>

<p>His answer, “During leave periods, they lock all the rooms to prevent anybody from stealing stuff.”</p>

<p>I just shook my head. Our rooms were never locked.</p>

<p>Thanks - very helpful
Also talked to an old friend last night USNA 79, former blue and gold officer - he offered to talk to all of us to give real answers to ?s
Let you know if we hear anything further!</p>

<p>Memphis: Great post.
How would you compare your “stats” to your sons? How many applied for admission to your class? It is possible that the USNA has become more selective since the “old days”.</p>

<p>Received 2 nominations dec 2 and 7 - still nothing re: LOA or appointment - all done w/academic/medical/cfa/etc - should I be worried?
B and G officer says can’t get any info from admissions officer
How long? or will this go on til March/April</p>

<p>Last things first …it could. While likely not, possibly even longer. Again, not likely. </p>

<p>As we’ve heard, LOAs will be much more scarce, infrequent now. Not impossibilities, but highly unlikely unless one is among a “priority” group.</p>

<p>While worry is wasted, it is fully understandable and empathy-generating. From a procedural perspective, there is no need to worry. No news is good news. If you were “out” you’d know. What you also know, you’re not yet “in.” Good luck.</p>