Non-Top 10, In State Chance

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<p>just post your response on here. My stats, etc. are on that thread. After posting there I realized that many people may not know how competitive UT is for non-top 10% students so I have decided to post on here as well.</p>

<p>To reiterate, I have established residency. So, I will be viewed at non top 10%, in state student. </p>

<p>Cheers.</p>

<p>I’m missing something - why do you say you’re non top 10, when your rank is 1 out of around 230?</p>

<p>The top 10% rule only applies if you graduate from a Texas high school</p>

<p>Oh, OK! I thought it would apply since he was considered in-state. Thanks, QoE!</p>

<p>yea, I’m not at a TX HS. So, that rule doesn’t apply for me. </p>

<p>Anyone knowledgeable enough to give me a relative idea of my chances? I don’t know if I should apply to TAMU as well. I really don’t want to because UT is the only ‘real’ TX state uni. in my opinion…academically speaking :P</p>

<p>As far as I know, U.T. dropped the “top 10%” rule a year or two ago… its not the “top 8% rule”. The reason they changed is to let more people like you into their university. You will be more qualified than a vast majority of the students applying to U.T.</p>

<p>^Wow, I didn’t know that. I knew that they were changing admission requirements (course requirements, etc.) but I didn’t know the Top 10% rule was changing. </p>

<p>That’s awesome and boosts my chances I suppose. However, would anyone wager an estimate as to my chances of admission at UT-Austin?</p>

<p>The rule was never “dropped,” was just altered. They now decide the percentage to give automatic acceptances to by mathematically estimating what would fill up 75% of the freshman class. The top 10% rule used to fill around 90% of the class IIRC. This will allow more students from non-ranking schools as well as out-of-state to have a chance.</p>

<p>anyone care to chance? My rank is 2/240 not 1/240 as I had initially thought. But there is some hiccup in the system my GC used to rank…we don’t rank but my GC is doing it for me for US apps…so something is wrong because I should be no.1</p>

<p>But anyways, please chance. Assume a 2200 SAT I, which would probably be the worst case scenario on Oct. 9th.</p>

<p>no oneeee? I’m still in state, just not top 8%…and when should I apply to UT? When does UT start rolling admissions? What is the optimal time to apply? Is mid-Nov. too late?</p>

<p>Also, I am taking SAT IIs, but would UT need them (bio/chem/math major)? Will they help my app?</p>

<p>Just curious as to how you can assume an SAT score. A big assumption, I would think. As far as you acceptance, UT has already begun acceptances. Since you don’t qualify for the auto admit, I would be surprised if you hear anything until after the Dec. 1 deadline. I would think they need to wait until all applications have been received, but that’s just a guess on my part. Good luck</p>

<p>^thank you. I’m basically just hoping I score 2200+ from a combination of experience and my prep paying off. Hopefully it all works out.</p>

<p>I think the best anyone can say is, your chances look good in the “holistic review” pool of applicants competing for a place within that precious 25% of the class made up of non-Top 8% kids. The report below contains very helpful information in the introduction about how holistic review is conducted, what factors are considered, weighting of factors, importance of essays, etc. You can also back out some stats, e.g., the fall 2009 freshman class was composed of 7249 total students, of which 6580 came from Texas high schools = 669 spots for non-Texas high school applicants. </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.utexas.edu/student/admissions/research/HB588-Report12.pdf[/url]”>http://www.utexas.edu/student/admissions/research/HB588-Report12.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>** Note, you could be totally correct about how your app will be read, but be sure you have confirmed with the Admission Office that they will read your app as a non-ranking in-state app even though you attend HS in Canada. I get that you think you have qualified for Texas residency for tuition purposes (again, if you’ve concluded vs. confirmed that status, it’d be prudent to check with a residency specialist to make sure you’ve dotted all your i’s and crossed your t’s). But the Texas “top %” law and admission procedures generally sort you based on your HS. </p>

<p>In past years, UT has extended acceptances to highly qualified non-ranking Texas HS applicants in as fast as a week after applying and as early as October. I don’t know what will happen this year. There is another thread indicating a top 8% automatic qualifier has already received an acceptance, so that’s an indicator apps are being read and acted on. But the general rule of thumb is, unless you’re an auto admit, you should not expect to hear back until the announced regular decision date, which is late February, as I recall.</p>

<p>You ask about SAT IIs–check the admission website to learn exactly what you will need. See [How</a> to Apply | Freshmen | Be a Longhorn](<a href=“http://bealonghorn.utexas.edu/freshmen/admission/requirements/]How”>http://bealonghorn.utexas.edu/freshmen/admission/requirements/) It is important to understand the different paths and admission requirements based on the college/major you select. </p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>My son, OOS, applied in November and didn’t get his acceptance until March. It was a long wait! His SAT was higher than 2200.</p>

<p>^wow, that is such a long wait! I guess I’ll sit tight and hopefully hear from UMich by the end of November once I get my app in EA.</p>

<p>@TXArtemis, I had checked multiple times with UT residency people about my status and they said that I would need to fill out the in state application but I would be considered as a non top 10 student. However, I’m going to call again soon to sort it out yet again and figure out more. Thanks a lot for the link and great info.!</p>

<p>Also, if I shouldn’t expect anything before February when do you think I should apply? Does it even matter how early I apply? Would it be fine if I applied by mid-late November?</p>

<p>Viggy,</p>

<p>Yes, you can wait to mid-Nov. to apply; however, know that certain colleges fill faster than others, so after they admit the top 8%'ers and other non-top 8%'ers before they get to you, your 1st choice college may be full. For that reason, and simply optimizing your chances in that competitive 25% pool, it is always advisable to submit as soon as you can put together your strongest app. </p>

<p>** DON’T WAIT UNTIL LATE NOVEMBER!!! Please be aware of the unique “receipt rule” UT operates under. They must receive your app by Dec. 1–it cannot be postmarked by Dec. 1. As you are submitting from Canada, please allow plenty of time or use an air courier with return receipt to confirm timely delivery. Note, also, the US Thanksgiving holiday, which can delay mail service. The Admission office is likely to be closed Thursday and Friday, November 25 and 26, in observance of Thanksgiving.</p>

<p>[Deadlines</a> | Freshmen | Be a Longhorn](<a href=“http://bealonghorn.utexas.edu/freshmen/admission/deadlines/]Deadlines”>http://bealonghorn.utexas.edu/freshmen/admission/deadlines/)</p>

<p>Good luck,</p>

<p>@ TX atermis
My son applied Aug. 5th and he is top 2% got his acceptance a week ago (Spet. 28th) for first choice engineering school</p>

<p>The sooner you apply, the better, somewhat for admissions and definitely for housing. You can apply for housing for next year as soon as your application is complete - you don’t need the letter of acceptance to apply for on campus housing. (There are only 8000 spots on campus, and sophomores and juniors take some of these - if you want to be sure you get space on campus, apply soon.)</p>

<p>You have a chance at UT. It is not a safety for you. Getting an SAT score higher than your current 2090 will definitely help. Your odds will increase slightly if you are applying to a major that UT can tell is not going to be “filled up by top 8% students.”</p>

<p>Perhaps since you are considered a Texas applicant, you would be offered CAP. I wonder. If you were offered CAP and accepted, you could be guaranteed a spot at UT for your sophomore year. CAP is a great program for not-top-percentile Texas residents who long to be Longhorns.</p>

<p>Why apply to Michigan and Wayne State but not Michigan State? Michigan State is great! Easier to get into than Texas or Michigan, excellent honors programs, many strong academic departments, and a really fun school. </p>

<p>If you are looking for safety schools, since you have that Texas residency, have you considered Texas State San Marcos? So close to Austin, and so inexpensive for Texas residents. </p>

<p>Also, you suggested that you think UT is the only academically strong school in Texas. Some of the academic programs at TAMU are very strong. It really depends on your major. Don’t rule out TAMU.</p>

<p>@trasberry Congrats to your son! Earning top 2% and then admission to the engineering school is hard work. You must be very proud!</p>

<p>Note, the OP is applying non-top 8%, so that’s the context of our discussion. Response time for the top 8% is usually pretty fast, as your family experienced! A few strong apps in the non-top 8% also get those speedy admissions; but the rest have to wait it out.</p>