<p>It's too expensive to take,will the schools I am applying to accept me if my other stats match with the school?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>To sum up the answer : No. You need to prove your ability in english and compared to other otpions it is easier and sometimes the only way. You are exemted from TOEFL if :
You Come from a English Speaking Nation
Last 4 years of your high school was entirely taught in English ( I am from a country in South-Asia and none of my friends were waived TOEFL for this reason although they had studied all 4 years in english)
You have high CR Scores in SAT (The minimum CR scores for TOEFL will be decided by the university/college. Minimum I have heard is 600 and many colleges place their minimum score at 700)
You decide to enroll in ESL (English as a second language) course at the university which ususally take months and is way lot expensive than TOEFL (Again most of the top universities and good colleges donot offer this english tutorial and expect you to have decent english which you should document either by TOEFL or SAT cr scores. )
Hope That helped. If I have mentioned anything wrong, other esteemed CC members will highlight about it.</p>
<p>Alright thanks.I still think it will only lower my chance instead of rejecting me,though.</p>
<p>Each institution sets its own policy. You have to read what each of them posts on its website. Some will accept IELTS instead of TOEFL. Some will accept a certain ACT or SAT score instead of TOEFL. Some won’t require TOEFL at all.</p>
<p>However, none of them will look at your application until your file is complete. You will indeed have to send TOEFL scores if they are required.</p>
<p>happymomof1 makes a very good point. If your file is incomplete, it could go straight into the auto-reject pile.</p>
<p>frankly speaking, you’re better off taking toefl. if colleges do offer to sub and use your SAT CR score, its normally usually above 600, and even possibly 700 as mentioned above. 650 on the SAT CR is much harder than toefl lol</p>
<p>Would 790 on CR, IB HL english and studying solely in English exempt me? I studied in a semi-international school in India and an international/British school in Hong Kong and my English grades are good.</p>
<p>^ once again, it depends on the school. its really up to them.</p>
<p>It does depend on the school, but with a 790 on the CR, IB HL English and English as the medium of instruction, I’d call the school and ask if TOEFL could be waived. </p>
<p>Some schools only do this manually, case-by-case - for example, if you’re applying to Texas and don’t have an automatic waiver, but have >600 on the CR and studied solely in English, you can call the international students office, ask to speak to someone who can make the decision to waive the TOEFL, and explain - the TOEFL requirement can be waived on the spot, so that your application will show up as complete on their application system.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I hear that U of Wisconsin-Madison doesn’t waive TOEFL under almost any circumstances. YMMV.</p>
<p>790 on CR would exempt you from taking TOEFL for most of top liberal arts colleges ( They really are flexible in these kind of things) but be weary of large universities (specially state and public), they donot usually compromise in these kind of things because of the sheer number of applications they recieve. So as the poster before me said, it depends on the school.</p>
<p>"On the other hand, I hear that U of Wisconsin-Madison doesn’t waive TOEFL under almost any circumstances. YMMV. "</p>
<p>Someone confirm this?? You mean if I’m from, lets say China, but I’m from South Africa and attended English schools my whole life, so that doesn’t apply right?</p>
<p>i will take it then.</p>
<p>Ohh I had UWisconsin Madison on my list…hmm looks like I’l have to cough up $180 now 
Thanks for the input!</p>
<p>A clarification concerning Wisconsin: I did not apply to Wisconsin. Their website says, “Students for whom English is not their first language, and who have studied in a language other than English must take an official test of English as a foreign language”, it also lists other conditions under which the TOEFL can be waived (CR and W > 550); however, I heard from someone who was planning to apply there that a number of Singaporean students had had to take the TOEFL despite all of the conditions being met.</p>
<p>This is thus third-hand information, and needs to be backed up by your own legwork!</p>
<p>I think TOFEL is a helpful course for the future and now a days you get job after completing it then what is better then getting the course and the job with it.</p>
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<p>So, I’m required to take TOEFL AND the SAT, even if my SAT scores are great?
But that just don’t make sense. Why would we have to take TOEFL if we have good SAT scores? Plus, imho SAT is harder than TOEFL…??</p>
<p>The SAT does not test your speaking skills and listening comprehension. Both are important for success in college, especially at smaller colleges with many discussion-based classes.</p>
<p>Again, it’s up to each college to decide which test(s) they require for admission. Either take the TOEFL or only apply to schools that don’t require it.</p>
<p>oh, I forgot about the speaking and listening. Thank you, b@r!um :)</p>