<p>Operasinger, we have something in common…my mom went to NYU too (not Tisch). :D</p>
<p>I think you are wrong about BoCo molding its MT students to be in the ensemble with lots of dance classes… Maybe you are confused with another school that molds ensemble actors…</p>
<p>First off I think there is nothing wrong with a lot of dance classes and BoCo gives a fair number of them…</p>
<p>Secondly… when you come out of school, where do you think the jobs are… In the ensemble for 90% so if you are trying to make leads right off the bat, good luck getting work at 22. It might work for a few but the majority will be very happy in the chorus.</p>
<p>Thirdly, this is not hear say… I talk from personal experience having seen shows, revues and recitals for the last 2-3 years… and I can tell you that you see a bit of everything on the school’s stages as far as looks, types, performances etc…</p>
<p>They have a freshmen revue coming up in Boston and a senior showcase coming up in Boston and New York… I suggest you go check one out and then you can form your own opinion about the school as opposed to what you’ve heard…</p>
<p>I am playing catch up here, and in reading the thread I had to chuckle, it was like hearing the comments we heard about the different “top MT programs” from all sorts of “experts” when D had just started compiling her list: </p>
<p>Do you know that ABC school is “into cookie cutter chorus people” and only accepts “arrogant and self confident people with great bodies”, DEF school “only wants great actors and they don’t care about their dance program”, GHI “is totally overrated”. JKL “is just a mixed bag of kids who did not get accepted anywhere else”? The list with so called “reputations” went on and on.</p>
<p>Please do not let one person’s opinion sway you one way or the other, decide based on your OWN feel and research of a program. Remember nobody is being held hostage in any program. People are free to leave if they are unhappy where they are at. Where do you feel at home, where do you feel you can learn the most? Those are the most important questions to entertain. </p>
<p>For the record, the last thing my D feels, who like NMR’s D, happens to be in CAP21, is that she is being molded into something. She is on the other hand being challenged to step outside of her comfort zone, but she recognizes that it only makes her a better actress. </p>
<p>With all the different level classes for dance, the many different teachers for vocal training, and the diverse acting approaches (vary greatly by instructor) I don’t really see how it would be even possible to create ONE typical MT performer type, and as far as reputation, whenever D auditions, the overall reaction to her resume that reflects that she attends NYU/Tish/CAP21 has been nothing but positive.</p>
<p>:D</p>
<p>MTgrlsmom brings up a point that is very valid about CAP21. Because the program is larger than many BFA in MT Programs, not all students will study with the same vocal or acting teachers because they have small sections with different teachers. So, I don’t know how one can be molded to be alike when they don’t even all train with the same teachers as one another. I’ve been a teacher myself for many years and every teacher has a different approach.</p>
<p>Different answer to ‘reputation’ question: A few years back, Boston Conservatory had a reputation for being an especially supportive community for theater undergrads. Kids were very competitive with each other for roles (both within the school and in Boston’s theater community), but outside of that competition they really looked out for each other and cared what happened to their classmates. </p>
<p>I heard this from an ex-roommate who went there for her MM in Voice. Apparently the grad voice department wasn’t as supportive of each other as the undergrads, and my ex-roomie was envious. :)</p>
<p>I haven’t heard anything similar about NYU, so I don’t know if BoCo’s better in that regard or not, it’s just a really positive thing I’d heard about BoCo.</p>
<p>I laughed out loud when I read the previous post about the theater world not needing another Kristin Chenoweth because we already have one. We heard that exact quote verbatim from the head of U Mich this year. It does seem like EVERY program touts their ability to help you discover the best performer inside you. So can I throw a 3rd option into this NYU - BoCo debate? My D was accepted to both of these plus Illinois Wesleyan. Yeah, I know. Bloomington, Illinois vs. Boston/NYC? But aside from that, some people we know are insisting that IWU would provide better training, more personal attention, support, etc. because of its small size (6 girls and 6 boys were accepted for next year’s freshman class). My D is definitely a city girl and I can’t picture her spending 4 years in the midwest. Do you think there’s ANY argument to be made for honing your MT skills in a smaller environment? Or would it be crazy to pass up the opportunity to study at NYU or BoCo?</p>
<p>My D making similar choice to beaniemama. Eagerly awaiting replies to her query. And my older kid went to CAP 21. They underwent some faculty changes after he left. BTW he has been continuously employed on stage for over 2 years with only a one month gap. They DO get work, but his annual income is not very high…</p>
<p>beanie, some kids like a smaller environment and some don’t and I think it is more about personal preference. Some may not like that the same very small group as their group for four years. Some like that. In a larger program, it doesn’t mean less individual attention, however. Larger programs divide the students into small sections, the equivalent to the size of the entire small programs. The amount of individual attention by faculty is very similar. But there are other differences. For instance, in a small program, the faculty is small and you have the same teachers all four years. In a larger program, you learn from various faculty. In a small program, you work with the same small group of kids year after year. In a large program, your group gets mixed around each year. In a small program, it may be esier to be cast as less people are vying for roles. In a large program, it may be harder to be cast, but then again, many large programs put on more productions. And so on. So, it is a matter of what one prefers but I do believe individual attention is possible in either setting. The experience itself will be different though. Lots of BFA kids hang out with the other BFA kids and it depends how big you want your social circle to be, too. Then, there are, of course, all the other differences between programs and settings other than size. </p>
<p>Mom4X…your D is very talented and her acceptances are impressive and she has great choices. Obviously, since your son was in CAP21, you have a sense of that program already, though there have been some changes since he graduated. My daughter has been happy at Tisch and had some of the same acceptances that your D is holding. Tisch fit what she wanted in a college and it is really a matter of whether it fits what your D is hoping for. She can’t go wrong at any of her choices. They are merely different and preference will come into play at this point.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment SVT. Now, since you work for CC (right?), you may have access to my email address and know who I am, but I am one of those trying not to reveal too much re acceptances, rejections, wait lists, etc, so please do not give me away. My D has a lot of friends also applying (which is actually the WORST thing ever - very tense in the rehearsal halls!), so sometimes I reveal their info as well, to mix the info up. My D has been fortunate so far, but I remain cautious to reveal until all is said and done, so have not been very specific on the results.</p>
<p>Sorry if anything I said was revealing other than that your daughter has done well in admissions, sorry. I have no access to any information or your email. I do not know your email at all. I have read your posts on CC and based on your posts, I realize that our daughters know one another, that’s all. A lot of these kids are posting their results elsewhere on the internet I believe. I don’t think I have revealed anything here but saying that your D is talented and has done well. I read the forum here frequently and am making a general statement. You did mention that your son has graduated from CAP and he and my daughter also know one another. I surely would not post anything here that you have not posted yourself. I would never do that. And I totally understand your desire to post your D’s results after her admissions process is over and done as many choose to do, if at all. Again, I do believe your daughter is very talented and again, I am happy for her successes and that she has choices. I believe you have posted that much yourself. I was replying to your post above where you stated that your daughter is making a similar choice to beaniemama’s daughter. I am not sure where I “gave you away” and do not think I did and I don’t intend to as that is not my place to do so. I do like to support and cheer on kids and families whom I don’t know and even those whom I have met before as well.</p>
<p>Based on perischack’s posts, I also can tell who her son is given overlaps that we share. </p>
<p>For that matter, you likely know who I am and who my daughter is. :D</p>
<p>is it true that BoCo gives audition feedback if you got rejected?</p>
<p>Yes, they do give feedback. Call admissions.</p>
<p>Thanks for the reply, just checking. Also, after May 1, I am going to post general merit offers with a $, $$, $$$, or $$$$ designation after them on the acceptance page as I think it will be most useful for future classes to see who gives out $. I hope others follow the lead. D got some academic merit and some talent merit at various schools. For anyone reading this, the common theme in my area among ALL college apps this year, for all majors, and from a mix of about 1/2 public and 1/2 private high schools is that most are NOT getting into their first choices, but are getting nice offers none the less, but no one is seeing their student ecstatic, but rather accepting about their third choice school.</p>
<p>Some people DO get into their first choice college (speaking generally, not just MT applicants), though that should not be expected. But some people do not create realistic college lists in the first place. So, one person’s success with college admissions is not always comparable with another person’s success with it because one person may have a very appropriate realistic list (in relation to their qualifications) that is well balanced and someone else’s list may be unrealistic for them and not balanced and so SOME of the results can be attributed to that. And of course, schools with very low odds of admissions due to very low admit rates are chancy for ANYONE.</p>
<p>A lot of BFA programs give scholarhip money. Actually, I did not know that myself until I observed that every school my child got into gave a scholarship. I am not sure, therefore, if it is useful to know how much was given at any school because I find this varies greatly between applicants. For instance, while my own kid got a large scholarships to Tisch, it appears to not be typical to get one of that size, so I would not want people to infer that would mean each candidate can get a lot of money there, because I don’t think that is the case. Also, some scholarships mix merit and need and so that also will vary greatly between each applicant.</p>