ARP – Ruh roh.
You totally broke the ND rules by applying to Columbia ED. It is not a coincidence that no other ND REA applicant on this board has mentioned an ED application pending at another school.
This being the ND board, we are a forgiving bunch. But you have to confess first. And we might give you the penance of calling up ND first thing Monday and ask them to convert you to RD. Or maybe we’ll let this go with a couple Hail Marys.
: )
I’m not denying that ND says that, I checked myself after someone mentioned it. But I only applied REA because my guidance counselor said it was okay… I never tried to break the rules in any way, I assumed if my school’s college guidance counselor said it was okay then it was
Seriously for ARP (who appears to have been led astray by a misguided GC).
Is it actually the case that ARP’s ND application is for sure doomed by the impermissible ED application? I have no idea.
If so, ARP might want to fess up ASAP and plead ignorance and ask to be put in the RD pile. Since ND is a top choice.
@northwesty Would they even be aware of the application? I’m not trying to hide it, I’m just curious how they would know about that since ND REA didn’t require any confirmation like Columbia ED did (sayiing I wasn’t applying ED anywhere else- also checked bc Common App won’t let you apply to 2 schools with ED)
How would I even go about telling ND?
You could call up your ND admissions rep Monday morning and come clean. You did break the ND rules. But it was an innocent mistake caused by an uninformed GC.
Maybe ND would not care. Maybe they’d never find out about it. Maybe they’d just put you in the RD pile (which is where you are supposed to be). Or maybe they’ll automatically reject you for being a rule breaker.
I have no idea how those rules get enforced. But if you are serious about ND, you might not want to just wing it.
“Would they even be aware of the application?”
ARP – you are applying to ND. God knows…
Good luck.
@arp987 I feel for you! But look, now that you know it has become an ethical dilemma. I think you need to convert one of the apps to RD. You could change Columbia’s. But these are two incredible and highly reputable universities that have the utmost ethical standards. If they don’t figure it out now, they may down the line and there could be consequences later, after you matriculate. You hear about things catching up with students unexpectedly. I think for your own sake you need to come clean with admissions…one of the two. Sorry you were misled by your guidance counselor. Another option would be to have your guidance counselor call for you…that might actually save you. Good luck, we know you weren’t purposely being misleading.
The point is, @arp987, you’ve been told now. You should look for ways to mitigate the damage.
Frankly, my child did not leave it up to her GC to help her determine the rules of Notre Dame’s Restricted early action–she looked it up on the website and understood what it meant because it is clearly explained. You did not do this yet the responsibility for doing so was fully yours. I’m sure you can appreciate the frustrations on this thread,by those whose children played by the rules. You really shouldn’t get two bites at the apple.
@chillkitty If you read through, you’ll see I asked how to go about this. I trusted my guidance counselor since this is her job and I assumed she performed it more than adequately since she’s been employed for decades. I don’t really think I deserve personal frustrations for what was a genuine accident.
@arp987, I have little sympathy for someone who takes no responsibility for his/her own actions. The ultimate responsibility lies with you, not you GC.
But you obfuscate: the question is what do you do now? Please tell us what you plan to do now that you’ve found yourself in this ethical dilemma
@chillkitty If you must know, I plan on talking to both my guidance counselor and my school principle about the situation. My parents don’t want me to contact ND until after this is dealt with at my school. After that, I’ll decide with me parents what the best course of action is. Considering the fact that all of the checks that are supposed to be in place (Common App isn’t supposed to allow the submission of conflicting apps) and the fact that a trusted official gave me the go ahead, I don’t think this is my fault. I in no way intended to break ND rules and I regret that this situation even exists, but I’m not going to apologize to upset parents for trusting people who have been through this before and are supposed to be qualified to inform me about these situations.
ARP – I’d suggest talking to your GC ASAP. If the GC biffed this, the GC should help you resolve it.
And please tell your GC that ND is not the only school where this would come up. In addition to ND, some other schools with similar REA or SCEA rules are Stanford, Harvard, Yale, Princeton and Georgetown.
Good luck next week.
@arp987 keep your head high and smile. There is a couple thinking to eliminate you will give them a better chance. There is a huge amount of people on CC and they’re not commenting. It is what it is. Stay off of here and enjoy your weekend. It will all work out.
@arp987, any frustration stems from the fact that you show a lot of reluctance to stepping up and doing the right thing. Your solution is to go to all the people who failed to give you good advice on your applications-- your parents, your principal, your GC–and ask for what will probably be terrible advice again! If you were at all confused about how ED and REA work, you should have called the respective schools yourself for an answer. That should have been your first step. Now that your mistake has been pointed out to you, everyone on this thread thinks your next step is to call the schools, either with or without your GC and explain the situation yourself. You seem to be content to push these decision off to the people who failed you in the first place and seem to want to run out the clock so that you have both decisions in hand. Not cool, man!
@chillkitty I feel bad for you. Trying to bully someone and put down their support group is the ugliest thing I have seen. Tell me about your perfect life? If your life was so sweet and grass so green you wouldn’t feel the need to look or taste others.
@chillkitty Thankful right now that I don’t know you. Good luck to your child. As an adult, I hope you have better things to do than continuing to attack me and my decision to handle my situation, which really isn’t your problem. i won’t be responding again.
@arp987 - I commented earlier about the “rules” as posted on the ND website. It’s clear to me that your GC called Columbia and NOT Notre Dame. I feel for you right now. I can’t imagine how you are feeling - scared, worried, confused. You proceeded with the guidance of those who you thought knew more than you. I’m sorry it was incorrect advice. I agree that you should go directly to your school, with your parents, and see what can/should be done. Now, you have a long weekend of wait. As was said above, try to have a nice weekend and deal with this all on Monday.
Best of luck to you!
Does anybody else know if the 10th-12th is an accurate date timeline?
personally, I have no idea @junior2017 but I was going to ask if they could be released on a weekend because I don’t know if i’ve ever heard of that
@junior2017 @plaidpants5 some schools release decisions on the weekend, but Notre Dame historically hasn’t. Because they sent us the portal login information last Wednesday, I’m guessing that they’ll release decisions on Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday next week (but that’s just a guess). I don’t think they’ll release decisions on the weekend and I don’t think they’ll release them too close to the holidays, given that so many of their applicants are Christian and they wouldn’t want to defer/reject them right before Christmas.
I agree with @hamgirl. I think Wednesday-ish and later for some. Maybe Tuesday. Last year was a Monday, but they can’t rush things and they may really need the extra few days to get through everything.