@My5Kiddos. @vlhmd1 - My daughter was rejected REA - a very competitive applicant and would’ve been a 4th generation legacy - my grandfather, dad, and my husband and I both went there, along with 3 of my brothers and other relatives. She also had a family scholarship attached to her application. We would never assume admission at such a competitive school, but were shocked and saddened that she wasn’t at least deferred or offered Gateway. Her school counselor even called to double check that they had it right. Our regional AO gave a whole song and dance about the increase in minorities, international students, and first gen students. While that is a noble initiative, they are missing the boat on many qualified legacies who “get” Notre Dame and will give back to the school in the future. We are puzzled as to how it’s not in ND’s best interest to at least defer a competitive 4th generation legacy applicant. Notre Dame is built on generations of families who understand the traditions and what makes it such a special place. Honestly it is heartbreaking that our family heritage dating back to Knute Rockne has come to a screeching halt. But, it is what it is, and she will end up somewhere and love it. Just wanted you to know that I totally get the heartbreak and feeling that you’ve been let down by a place you love so much. Good luck to all who were accepted.
Rejecteddd
Act: 34
Gpa (W): 4.25/4
Rank: 21/621
International Baccalaureate Candidate
Junior yr course load: IB History HL, IB English HL, Theory of Knowledge, Honors Band, AP Stats, IB Chem SL, AP Govt
Senior yr course load: IB History HL, IB English HL, IB Math HL, IB World Religions, AP Bio, IB Spanish Ab initio, AP Cal BC
Extra Curriculars: Varsity bowling team (3 yrs), DECA club president, DECA state 1&2nd place, Science Olympiad state medalist, All state district band clarinet 1st chair & made it to All state red band, tutored clarinet, volunteered at humane society, NHS, altar serve at church, internship at university vet hospital, helped mayoral political campaign & canvassed.
Weakness: my junior year grades… and my supp essays weren’t the strongest, visited ND once but didn’t show enough interest, ec not strong enuf
Strengths: Rec letters and common app essay
Roman Catholic female
I know some legacy families at my son’s school who were admitted and also denied. From what I have observed it is really about stats. My son’s Jesuit high school has a very high admit rate for Notre Dame (36% last year) so we see a lot of applicants and acceptances. I think it is really a balancing act where they want to keep test scores up in the range of 32-35 ACT. @WLVGirl I agree with you about the 4th generation status–I would have thought they would have offered her the Gateway Program. I feel your pain. We are not legacy the way it is typically defined at ND, but my son’s grandfather is an alumnus…so we skipped a generation.
When should the acceptance letters be expected to arrive in the mail?
And does anyone know the timeline of when roommates and dorms are assigned
Our son was EA deferred to regular decision and did not get accepted. He had 33 ACT and 3.6 unweighted GPA all honors HS with 6 APs. Legacy through mom (law school), but brought up Jewish, as well as Hispanic (through mom) and has a learning disability. He “hit” many minority buckets so thought he had a decent chance even though he was a bit low on GPA and his extra curricular weren’t as strong as other applicants.
@NDIRISH2019, dorm and roommate assignments will come in June or July.
My daughter was admitted after being deferred in REA. We did not see this coming. 33 ACT, 4.0 UW, 4.375 W, valedictorian, varsity athlete, hospital volunteer and some leadership but no legacy, alumni connections, extra letters, no hooks whatsoever. She is just a well rounded student and a very sweet girl who played by the rules; happy to share the timeline of her LOCI, mid-year transcript, etc with anyone now or next year if we can be of any help.
Accepted! Notre Dame has been my dream school for the past two years so I’m still in shock!
For those not accepted, have you considered the option of transferring in after the first year? I know of a student a few years back who had dreamed of going to ND for his whole life but did not get accepted. He refused to give up on his dream and decided to go elsewhere, aim to get a 4.0 his freshman year and apply to transfer to ND. He did it, was accepted and had a wonderful ND experience in the end. He also learned about overcoming adversity.
Building on @newMIparent 's post, a link with some pertinent Notre Dame transfer information, in view of ND’s 98% First/Sophomore Year return rate:
https://admissions.nd.edu/information-for/transfer-students/transfer-faq/
“Each year, we receive 1,000 fall semester transfer applications for 50 transfer openings. In the spring, we receive close to 100 transfer applications for 5-10 spots.” These numbers for average ND transfer spots available are after Gateway HCC/ND transfer students allotment (approx.75 students will be starting in this program this Fall, ND on-campus housing is guaranteed for Gateway transfers).
Admitted!
SAT: 1570
SAT II Math Lv. 2: 800
SAT II U.S. History: 770
ACT: 35
GPA (UW): 4.0
GPA (W): 4.6
Residence: Carmel, Indiana
Honors/NMF/Awards: NMF, Presidential Scholars Candidate, Top 1% class rank (class size: 1,200), Best Attorney at Mock Trial State, HOSA Biomedical Lab Science State Finalist.
I don’t expect to get any financial aid, and I didn’t get an invite to merit scholarships, but I really need the money. On paper, it seems like my family can afford Notre Dame, but we really can’t. My parents barely have a retirement fund and I have future med school loans to think about. There have been updates to my application and enticing offers from other colleges since I submitted my RD application to Notre Dame. Would they possibly consider negotiating the price down? If not, are work-study options at ND enough to pay off tuition? Thanks in advance to whoever replies to this.
@sheerluckholmes Did you run NPC and did you fill out FASFA and CSS? It can’t hurt to contact ND’s financial aid office, but they will need all of the FASFA and CSS info. I don’t think work study (assuming you are talking about federal work study) is going go help a lot. ND costs ~$75K a year and work study will only get you a few thousand depending on how many hours you work. If you are certain you will go to med school or graduate school, you might want to look at the enticing offers you received. Even if you become a doctor, paying off a $300K+ loan is a tough hill to climb.
You have fantastic stats and it’s clear you are very bright and a hard worker. Even if ND doesn’t work out for you because of finances, I’m sure you will do well wherever you go!
Info for admiited students asking for fin aid!
I just received an e-mail from ND Director Intl Admissions saying my admission packet will be shipped today by UPS together with finanacial aid information.
@hpcsa where on the link you posted does it say housing is guaranteed for Gateway students?
DS got 0 merit and 0 Financial aid so he won’t be going to ND
@HM0527 The ND transfer information under the link I shared states that housing is not guaranteed for transfer students. In fact, every year some incoming transfer students have to live off-campus, which may make integration for those transfer students more challenging, due to the strengths of the residential housing and support system at Notre Dame. This issue will most likely increase, given the three year residence requirement for directly admitted students, introduced last year.
As I had mentioned Gateway students in the same posting, I wanted to make clear that Gateway students, as far as I know, do not fall under this policy and do have guaranteed housing, when transferring in from HCC. It certainly is one important question to ask during the forthcoming visit, in case ND/HCC do not offer this important piece of information during the presentation - presumably they will do so unprompted.
My son was rejected. Congratulations to all that got accepted. I would appreciate if someone could provide a little insight into the admission process. My son stats are:
SAT: 1460
SAT II: bio 750, Global 800, Chem: 750
Full IB diploma
Science Olympiad team
large public high school that does not rank
Average 99.6 weighted
EC: 12 seasons high school sports (9 as varsity)
Altar server/MC/trainer at our parish
Boys Scholar Athlete Leadership club
Eagle Scout, Senior Patrol Leader
Intern at a Law firm
Swim instructor.
I understand his EC are limited primarily because his sports commitment was so time consuming. I felt his essays were good. I just can’t wrap my head around how the schools make decisions,
@hpcsa this is what I found…
Where do the Gateway students live?
You will live at Holy Cross for your freshman year, typically with another Gateway student. Housing is guaranteed for the student’s first year at Holy Cross and Gateway students will have priority among transfer students in the on-campus housing lottery at Notre Dame.
I will definitely ask if there has ever been a Gateway student without housing.
My son is a freshman. There are a group of sophomores down the hall that transferred from HC through Gateway. They actually have a sought after quad with a bathroom! I think the Gateway students are wwell taken care of. I don’t think you have to worry about the housing. Good luck to your daughter!