Notre Dame Waitlist 2023

Hey prospies :wink: My name is Jessi and I am a proud ND waitlist survivor. I’m starting this discussion for all of the students who received the gut wrenching “waitlist” letter today. I am here to tell you NOT to give up hope if you are passionate about Notre Dame. I found that the college confidential 2021 waitlist thread was a great place for support when I was navigating all of this, and that threads from past years helped me learn what to expect with this (sometimes confusing, sometimes frustrating) process. I am a current sophomore at Notre Dame and I will be checking this discussion regularly to answer any questions I can.

I recommend reading this encouraging article on being put on the ND waitlist:
https://admissions.nd.edu/connect/news/on-the-waitlist-so-was-i/

Here’s the link to ND waitlist discussions from previous years, which may answer some of your questions about the waitlist:
2022:
http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/university-notre-dame/2066048-notre-dame-waitlist-2022.html
2021:
http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/university-notre-dame/1974034-notre-dame-2021-waitlist.html

thank you

Hello @JDprospy ! Thank you for creating this thread. I had a quick question in regard to bolstering chances of getting off of the waitlist. The only real suggestion I can find is to send an additional letter of rec and write a continued interest letter with updated accomplishments. I was deferred in REA, so in February I sent an additional letter of rec and a continued interest letter. This leaves me with little to nothing more to tell the admissions office, as I haven’t really had any new accomplishments in the last 4 weeks. Any suggestions?

Thank you @JDprospy. Last year, they only accepted 20 from the waitlist out of almost 2000 waitlisted. There was a year they pulled zero. At this point, I need something short of a miracle.

Updated Notre Dame Waiting List Blog, posted today 03/21/2019: https://admissions.nd.edu/connect/news/on-the-notre-dame-waiting-list-we-answer-your-questions-here/

Wishing everyone luck on what has already been a loooggg wait. My DS originally applied REA and thought he’d have all his answers before winter break! He decided to decline his spot on the Waiting List and move on.

@Devcur, DS also had struggles right after the REA deferral with what to tell the AO. He said he didn’t want to repeat his answers for the “Why ND?” essay. He ended up writing his AO after REA, but I don’t know what he wrote. I’m not sure what you send the 3rd time, so I’ll be interested in what people say, even though he is no longer in the running.

Hi… I’m also Jesse and I am on the waiting list for 2023. 4 generations will be coming to an end if I am not accepted and it is very sad. I had the scores, the essays, and the recommendations. Just shocked I did not get in. What can I do to better my situation? There are things like write a why ND, or send updates, but what did you do to through your process?

@JDprospy I was deferred EA and waitlisted RD, do I still have a chance? How did you increase your chances of getting in?

My son has not written his admissions officer yet…is it a good idea for him to reach and make sure they know that when that call comes in its a YES for him?? He has gotten all A’s again this marking period…and he was chosen as an AP top scholar with 5’s on all his AP exams so far. is this what they want/need to hear? He has two great choices and will commit to one…as honored as we both are that ND did not give him the no…the waiting since December has been so hard. Rather than a why ND letter (I don’t know what else he could say - he loved it there!!! It made him excited about going to college!!) I wish we could find out why not me this round or what else does ND want to know about these amazing kids waiting for their yes!!! the wait lists are hard because clearly their applications has so much for the right stuff…but at this stage of the game not knowing what is missing or being able to fix it just wears on his heart and his brain.

Daughter just declined ND, will attend U of Miami. RSMAS too strong at The U vs. researching frozen tundra of Indiana. Hopefully it opens up a spot for one of you, best of luck!

To all: I know how devastating it feels at this point. The most important thing to do is push forward and be resilient. The admissions counselors will appreciate seeing this and even if you don’t get the outcome you want, at least you know you will have done everything you could have.

@Devcur : My main suggestion would be to maintain contact with your admissions counselor. I don’t think it ever hurts to send updates and accomplishments, as small as they might be. See below for info about what I did.

@irishfan2023 : Don’t lose hope. I didn’t think that I actually had a shot at getting in because the years before me alternated with zero and about 60 students getting off the waitlist, and if the pattern continued, no one would have gotten off the waitlist in my year. However, I continued to express interest because I wanted to be the first person to call if they even had one spot open. Also, some fuel for optimism: keep in mind that only about half of the students who get offered a spot on the waitlist will accept their spot, and most students on the waitlist won’t contact their admissions counselor, so this is a great way to distinguish yourself.

@js00999 : Hey Jesse!!! I know the pressure of having an ND family and wanting so badly to be a part of it. The most important thing to do is contact your admissions counselor and be sure that they know that ND is still your number one choice. See below for info about what I did.

@smallgal : You definitely still have a chance!! I know how frustrating it is at this point–but don’t give up. Do whatever you can to distinguish yourself from others on the waitlist. See below for info about what I did.

@PopUpZone1921 : It is definitely a great idea for your son to communicate to his admissions counselor that ND is still his first choice. Keep in mind that the college wants to keep their yield rate high, so it likely helps to know that if he is offered admission he will certainly enroll. When he writes to his admissions officer, make sure he highlights any accomplishments that have happened since the application, as it certainly does not hurt to add more positive info to his application. I know how hard the wait can be, but staying excited about the school he commits to while fighting hard for ND behind the scenes is the best way to handle it. Also, don’t forget that unfortunately the admissions process is unfair in that they might just want more women in engineering or maybe more diverse students, none of which your son can control. However, you should encourage him to put effort into what he can control and show his excitement about ND to his admissions counselor.

For those who are wondering what I did to get off the waitlist or looking for ideas of ways to show your excitement about ND, here’s my list:

-My biggest suggestion would be to contact your admissions counselor!!! It seems (from previous CC threads and other students that I have spoken with) that the students who show interest are the ones who get off of the waitlist at ND. I contacted my admissions counselor about every 2 weeks (whether it be by phone, postcard, email, etc). Someone else might argue that this is too much, but it worked for me likely because it showed consistency and dedication.
-Some of these emails were updates about my leadership, engagement and achievement in clubs, academics, service projects, etc. (I tried to make these updates engaging by adding photos from events I organized and participated in and discussed how I could continue contributions to the community at ND). Send these updates no matter how small they might seem! I even mentioned when my highschool received a good ranking by US News and World Report lol.
-Called my admissions counselor asking questions about my chances and what I could do to better them, any remaining questions about ND, and the possibility of receiving admission into the Holy Cross College gateway program. (I ended up crying because I got so emotional on the phone lol, not recommended but just be yourself!)
-Sent a handwritten card to the admissions counselor’s office thanking him for speaking with me on the phone
-Had a friend of ND send another letter of recommendation to my counselor (not encouraged by university
https://admissions.nd.edu/connect/news/on-the-notre-dame-waiting-list-we-answer-your-questions-here/
but I figured it couldn’t hurt)
-I also sent an email containing a two page (single-spaced) letter of intent discussing my ongoing excitement and commitment to ND towards at the end of April

Wow @JDprospy thats pretty tenacious and impressive…I am trying to get my son to write his letter…UGH. he is away on spring break with his team at the moment…I am afraid his window has closed…and i am tired of watching him be disappointed yet DO NOTHING about it…I like your style and I am glad it worked out for you. Thanks for sharing your journey. I showed him this as well…so if he does nothing after this then i think he needs to count ND out and move onward.

@JDprospy Thank you so much for all the tips! Do you have specific examples of questions to ask an admissions counselor at this point? I called last week while he was at lunch and he ended up replying with an email with some information, but I’d still like to have an actual conversation. Thank you and good luck to everyone in the next few weeks!

My son finally sent an email to his admissions counselor…he got a pretty standard response back…saying that would upload his letter to his application…his guidance counselor is also going to send his third quarter grades and a follow up email endorsing him. Wishing everyone luck over the next few weeks.

@19mccula this was a list of some of my points of discussion that I created before I called my admissions counselor. Most of them are specific to my application, so just ask whatever is on your mind! It’s most important to show your excitement and commitment to ND. You could also make a point to ask if there is anything additional that you can do at this point (the answer will likely be no).

  1. My third quarter grades have been finalized and I have asked my counselor to send them to the admissions office at Notre Dame ASAP.
  2. Do you have any insight at this point if the waitlist will be used this year?
  3. Are you able to share the number of students that have been accepted into the University (total of early decision, 1470, and regular decision)?
  4. I have looked over Notre Dame's common data sets (CDS) for the past few years and have noticed that in 2013 and 2015 there were no students admitted off of the waitlist, and in 2014 and 2016 there were between 50-100 students admitted off of the waitlist. Is there any validity to this trend? Does Notre Dame adjust their numbers so they don't have to
  5. Passionate statement of intent about ND (Sad I won't be wearing my ND attire on our school's "decision day" on May 1st)
  6. IF the wait list doesn't work out for me, are engineers considered for the gateway program? I read on the 2014-15 gateway program pdf that "Science/Engineering/Architecture intents cannot be considered because the curriculum of the honors courses only fully aligns with the First Year requirements for students planning to enroll in Arts & Letters." What does this mean/entail?
  7. Thank him for all of his advice

@PopUpZone1921 Happy to hear your son contacted his admissions counselor! Probably wouldn’t hurt to remind him who he is (letter, another email, phone call, updating with accomplishments, etc) early May when all the decisions come in. Good luck to him and everyone else enduring the wait!

I’m so scared guys! I think we will hear back on around May 6th or 7th since the 4/5th are on the weekend.

Has anyone heard any word from their AO whether or not they think the waitlist will be used this year? Or if anyone could share if they’ve heard anything helpful/positive from their AO? It would be super great to hear for all the anxious people like me!

@yellowbean First calls to applicants on the Notre Dame waiting list may go out this Friday, May 3rd or on Monday, May 6th. As the Notre Dame Office of Undergraduate Admissions has proceeded conservatively in respect to Regular Decision Admissions this cycle, in order to avoid over enrollment, one should expect spaces from the waiting list to open up - actual numbers subject to the yield rate to be confirmed by tomorrow, of course.

The following universities/colleges and others opened waiting list admission well before May 1st this cycle:

American University
Duke
Barnard
Georgia Tech
Lehigh
University of Pittsburgh
Purdue
University of Chicago
UCLA
UCSD
University of Miami.

The majority of waitlist action will heat up during the second week of May, once universities/colleges have been able to review the demographics of committed First-Year Students.

Above all, be sure to let Notre Dame know that you will enroll if admitted. Now is the perfect time to do so (again). Best of luck and success!

My admissions counselor said “We were more conservative in the number of offers of admissions we sent out this year in hopes of being able to fill out the class through those students who are on the waitlist, but we will not know how many spots are available until after the dust has settled after May 1.” It doesn’t mean anything for sure, but it’s definitely hopeful!

We are anxiously awaiting over here as well. My son is pretty happy and settled with his decision but he has let his AO know that he will say YES when ND calls!! He was already contacted by Pitt WL which he declined. Here is hoping that @19mccula 's AO is correct. Good luck to all…and enjoy decision day in the meantime…its a huge deal!! So happy for this class of students!!!

Ahh they may start the calls today possibly… good luck guys and if anyone hears anything please post on this thread!!