November 2012 International SAT1 Discussion Thread

<p>I’m pretty sure the girl with balloons one was 4</p>

<p>R B O G
3 3 3 1
3 3 2 2
3 2 3 2
2 3 3 2</p>

<p>@franco<br>
No, I am not really sure. I can’t remember exactly if no. 3 was 4 or 5. I usually score between 700 and 800, but this test was difficult for me.</p>

<p>what did you choose in the vandalism passage where the choices were like absurd narratives or allegory or irresponsibilities?</p>

<p>I chose history and imagination for the fable one</p>

<p>Was it y > x or y > x^2?</p>

<p>Does anyone remember having the problem</p>

<p>ax+by=c
y=mx+k</p>

<p>how do you find K in terms of the other variables?</p>

<p>This one stumped me and I could not take my mind off of it the rest of the test!
was that experimental?</p>

<p>the fable was edifying and enigmatic. fabricated has a negative connotation but there was nothing negative about the author’s father’s stories throughout the passage.
can someone remind me of the question about practioner etc in alt.medicine?
passage 1- general, passage 2- specific seems to be the answer although i chose passage 2- historical, passage 1- modern.</p>

<p>It can’t be edifying and that question didn’t refer to the father’s stories but to the background of the amercian chinese family of the kid.</p>

<p>He later explained that it seems like if he had heard what he wanted to imagine and that the memoirs of his father were “rough yet difficult to narrate”</p>

<p>For me, this points out more to puzzled and fabricated.</p>

<p>And for that, passage 1 kind of critiziced alternative medicine since it said that it was “time honored not time tested”
Passage 2 explained about some use of plants on an indian alternative medicine</p>

<p>I disagree with you on the fable question. The son is saying that his knowledge of his fathers life is insufficient to make a complete picture, I.e. a story but rather that it’s a puzzle.
A fable would be edifying because you would actually learn something or think something rather than just be confused the whole time.</p>

<p>Tl;dr Fable is not a literal device, it’s figurative.</p>

<p>If you say that than the most correct example should have been C, the one that has a moralistic lesson.
According to your position, C should have been the option, and I think few people chose that</p>

<p>No, that’s not what I mean. The author first says something about his father’s story fitting into the classical Chinese American narrative and then says something like “when you look at it more closely, it’s more a riddle than a fable.”</p>

<p>A fable can be a moralistic lesson, but when the term is used used more colloquially, it can just mean a story or narrative. </p>

<p>The author then proceeds to compare his knowledge of his father to that of a spotty painting with lots of blank canvas. This signifies he doesn’t have a complete knowledge of his father’s life.</p>

<p>I didn’t think that it’s “puzzling and fabricated” because while puzzling works, he’s not saying that his father’s story if put into the context of the American narrative is FABRICATED, but rather that he just doesn’t know. Fabricated means to simply make stuff up and that also didn’t fit with the tone of the passage there. </p>

<p>my 0.02</p>

<p>So, his father’s life is more a riddle- because it’s a puzzle (enigmatic) than a fable because it’s not edifying (you don’t get anything out of it).</p>

<p>But option A says that it’s enigmatic AND edifying. You are just contradicting yourself over there.</p>

<p>First, he just referred to the Chinese Classcial in that his father used to read that when he got sick for a lot of time.</p>

<p>Second, fabricated, IMO, doesn’t has a negative connotation.
I still want to quote what the kid says: “I think I heard what I wanted to imagine”
This means he didn’t really heard the truth. He heard something made up, so he could stick with that.
And later he said: “if I were to say some fable, I would at least be more creative with it and make it appealing to the ones who are going to hear it”
This also means that perhaps his father just told him anything, perhaps boring or just anything that would fit in the kids mind.</p>

<p>And I still think fabricated has a little more of relativity here since, from what I understood, the kid “speculated” his American Chinese Background (why he came to America) from his father’s memoirs.</p>

<p>But again, that’s my interpretation. I might be wrong, but I don’t know…</p>

<p>I will tell you guys the answers to math questions that I am sure of.</p>

<p>Intersection (grid-in) - 6 (it’s |f(x)|, so it intersected 2 more points than 4)
Quadratic equation - II and III, so D
Rectangular prism, how many 3-3-2 fit - 5
Age of height with different age - 28 for first one, 5 for second one, D for third one (the one starting with steep slope, ending with flatter slope)</p>

<p>I am pretty sure the answer to balloon is 4, since it asks for combination, and not permutation and stuff…</p>

<p>For the edifying and fabricated stuff, I am pretty sure it’s enigmatic and edifying because he said it’s hard to figure it out obviously, and he said somewhere in the passage where he said he learns something from it until he can’t figure it out anymore, which shows that it was first edifying and later become enigmatic.</p>

<p>Does anyone remember what they got for the ice skater question in the last writing section? Was it something like “Although she was more experienced an ice skater, Emily”</p>

<p>A was right I think.</p>

<p>I chose A as well, and puzzling and fabricated for the other one.</p>

<p>Can someone please tell me what other passage was included along with art evaluation in the experimental section?</p>

<p>I chose C or D over here, but I forgot which was it…</p>

<p>For me, A sounds awkward.
It should either said: “Although she was a more experienced ice skater” or “Although she was more experienced as an ice skater”</p>

<p>“Although more experienced an ice skater” modifies Emiliy by revealing that she is more experienced than her opponent, but she lost. So, I thought it was right… not sure on that one though.</p>

<p>What’d you guys get for the question in the Wolves reading section where it was like "how would the author of Passage 1 react to the unexpected results in Passage 2?</p>

<p>What did you guys say for the 2nd question in the ‘alternative medicine’ passage?
The question was like “what would the practitioners in psg 1 say to the pactitioners in psg 2?”
I chose A (misguided by …health…) because practitioners in psg1 are using unverified medicines while those in psg2 are only using plants/medicines from the nature…</p>