Now that people know where they stand, CHANCE ME!

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>College Confidential Stats:</p>

<p>I am a white male floridian (born in NY) who attended a small Christian Academy not very well known by colleges for Freshman and Sophomore years, and now attend a competitive Catholic School because it offered more than my other school (which my guidance counselor has put in my recommendation for college to let them know I wanted a challenge)</p>

<p>In Short...
Cumulative GPA........3.85
Courseload.................Most rigorous possible (9 honors, 9 AP)
E/C's.............................V Tennis (since 8th), V Cross Country, V Track, NHS, Mu Alpha Theta, NJHS, FCA, FBLA
Awards/Recognition..U.S. National Achievement Award in Science, All American Scholar Award, MVP in Tennis, Placed 2nd at districts in tennis, a few more less important
Leadership..................President of Sophomore Class, Founder and President of Fellowship of Christian Athletes (10th), Captain Varsity Tennis
Service.........................170+ Hours with various organizations
Special.........................Internship at Smith Barney (All four years), People to People Student Ambassador, Took College courses through Eastern Washington University
Hooks...........................I like a challenge, and is shown by how I took the extra step by taking online AP courses Sophomore year, Internship @ Smith Barney </p>

<p>9th______________________________________________
Average GPA: 4.3 Weighted, 3.79 Un-weighted
Courseload: Hardest Possible (4 Honors)
Mu Alpha Theta
NJHS
Varsity Tennis- 1st Chair, MVP, Captain (placed 2nd at districts)
Intern @ Smith Barney (Stock Brokerage)
Swim Team
Dean's List
U.S. National Achievement Award in Science
All American Scholar Award
Started a self-run web design business
-Raised nearly $500 (over the four years of high school, if I don't get any $$$ Senior year) towards my college spending money </p>

<p>10th_____________________________________________
Average GPA: 4.5 Weighted, 3.88 Un-weighted
Courseload: Hardest Possible (5 Honors); Online Web Design Class; AP Microeconomics online
Cross Country- SACC All Conference, "Rookie Runner" award
Varsity Tennis- 1st chair, captain
Varsity Track
Intern @ Smith Barney
Future Business Leaders of America
Fellowship of Christian Athletes- Founder and President
Mu Alpha Theta
Student Council- President
Yearbook Club
National Honor Society
People to People Student Ambassador to Australia
College Credits (through Eastern Washington University)
a.) Comparing Cultures and Societies - 4 Creds.
b.) Exploring Cultural Diversity - 3 Creds.
c.) World of Arts - 5 Creds.</p>

<p>**11th<a href="Projected">/b</a> ____________________________________
Average GPA: 4.6 Weighted
Courseload: Hardest Possible
SAT: 1900-2100 range
Cross Country
Varsity Tennis
Varsity Track
Intern @ Smith Barney
Future Business Leaders of America
Mu Alpha Theta
Yearbook Club
National Honor Society</p>

<p>By my senior year, I will have completed 170 service hours and have some very good recommendations. I am also ranked top 5-10% of students and have held this rank throughout high school. Please chance me for the following:</p>

<p>ED to Princeton</p>

<p>Also,</p>

<p>NYU Stern
Harvard
Cornell
Rutgers
Columbia</p>

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<p>you're doing everything right, it seems. i think you'll get in to Princeton if you GET YOUR SATS UP!!! take a prep class if needed. dooooo it!!</p>

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<p>The SAT score is my predicted score-if worse comes to worse- I do believe I can do higher, but just for chances that come worst to worst, this is my prjected score, do you get what I mean</p>

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<p>bumpbumpbump</p>

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<p>Haha i laugh looking at this only because we are almost the same.. it's uncanny!</p>

<p>I was founder/president of FCA, run Track/XC
I travel to europe every summer (you traveled to Austrialia)
I'm in NHS, do a ton of community service hours.
Sat is sorta similar (2150?)</p>

<p>and i used to want to go to Princeton!
Pomona, Claremont Mckenna, Duke and Bowdoin all the way!</p>

<p>you have good chances at most of your schools, Harvard, Columbia and Princeton are super reaches for anyone.. but i'd almost guarantee Cornell, NYU Stern, and Rutgers</p>

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<p>Harvard and Princeton are reaches regardless of your stats and your SATs are kindof on the low side. You have an excellent chance at NYU Stern and Rutgers, a fairly good chance at Cornell and Columbia. If you get your SATs up to about the 2200 range you should be a shoe-in for Cornell.</p>

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<p>You have to do better than 2100 for any real chance at HPC and Stern too. Cornell would be the only ivy realistic reach with 2100.</p>

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<p>does it help that I have a legacy (grandpa) who went to NYU? By the way, what if I applied ED to Harvard since Princeton is demolishing ED anyway by the time I graduate...</p>

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<p>Umm, Harvard's getting rid of theirs next year, too. However, Yale isn't...</p>

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<p>"You have to do better than 2100 for any real chance at HPC and Stern too. Cornell would be the only ivy realistic reach with 2100."</p>

<p>Another person who is caught up in numbers. Here are some applicants from my school that disprove this theory:</p>

<p>1380/1600 with awesome EC's and #1 in the class
Decision: Accepted to Harvard RD</p>

<p>1530/1600 with not go great EC's and #9 in the class
Decision: Rejected from Harvard RD</p>

<p>1290/1600 who was a track star
Decision: Accepted to Harvard ED</p>

<p>1340/1600 who was another track star, #2 in the class
Decision: Accepted into Princeton RD</p>

<p>1460/1600 who had okay EC's, #12 in the class
Decision: Rejected from Princeton, waitlisted at Georgetown</p>

<p>Obviously, a 1400/1600 (or 2100/2400) isn't needed for HYP if there were 3 kids from my school last year who got in with scores lower than that "cutoff." Other factors are considered. All of these kids were white too, so AA didn't help them out.</p>

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<p>I agree with Hepstar. Last year a friend of mine made it to Princeton ED with a 2050, ASIAN. It's possible, but you really do need some sort of hook (he had amazing leadership).</p>

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<p>2 athletic recruits, a 1460 reject (below average for H so makes sense) and someone with awesome ECs which must have constituted a hook. No surprises. It's also deceptive to present so little info. You never know who's a legacy, who knows someone influential at the school, who is half black or hispanic and doesn't look it....</p>

<p>But you do have to have that hook if you don't have the numbers.</p>

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<p>I know for a fact that the 1380 kid had no hooks (ie: legacy, URM, recruited athlete, etc) at Harvard. He actually chose to attend U Delaware b/c he got a big scholarship there. Harvard would have put a big financial burden on his family, especially since his brother is in my class and is going to attend college in the fall of 2007. I give him a lot of credit for doing this. No many people would turn down a seat at Harvard, especially the type of people on this site.</p>

<p>I also indicated in the footnotes that all of the kids are white. I go to a Catholic school that is over 90% white, so mirorities are few and far between there. If you want to use the legacy argument, there was a kid with a 1430/1600 who was waitlisted at Duke, despite the fact that his parents have VERY strong ties to the school and they both attended it.</p>

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<p>Those ties clearly didn't include generous donations, because as a current bestselling book points out, Duke is probably the biggest whore of all the colleges and a 1430 doesn't damage the average too much.</p>

<p>What's your point? That random people with below average scores get in? They don't. And there's no way you know all the facts. At my high school where probably a third were ivy legacies, it simply wasn't discussed. And just check these boards to see the number of posters asking if they can check hispanic if they are only a quarter and don't look it....</p>

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<p>Actually, those ties DO include donations. His parents also WORK for the school!!! They travel around talking about what a great place Duke is. I guess they are what you would call "college reps." Despite this, he was still waitlisted! Apparently, the problem was that he had very poor EC's. I couldn't belive this story when I first heard it from my GC because a kid like this would normaly be an automatic acceptance. His parents were still able to pull some strings and get him accepted eventually. Still, this anecdote shows that nothing is guaranteed.</p>

<p>As for my "point," I am just trying to show that your earlier statement about a 2100 being absolutely needed for HYP is false b/c there are students who are accepted with lower scores. There are also students rejected with sky-high scores who have no EC's. Colleges want the "complete" student, not someone who did well on a 4 hour test but was involved in nothing. The 1380 kid was a "complete" student. The 1530 kid wasn't. The admissions results reflect this. A 2100 is a nice number to have for Ivy league admissions, but it is in no way a cutoff. </p>

<p>Wannagoivy apperas to be a strong candidate. He/she plays multiple varsity sports, has a solid GPA, and good EC's. The predicted SAT might be low for HYP, but anything is possible, especially if the other aspects of his/her application are solid. So far, they appear to be. A 2100+ SAT score might boost wannagoivy's chances, but an acceptance to an Ivy wouldn't be out of the realm of possiblity. Sure, they are reaches, but that doesn't mean there is no hope. Wannagoivy, I wish you the best of luck and I hope you realize that many people on the chances thread place too much emphasis on test scores.</p>

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<p>I agree with Hepstar. While 2200+ SAT's increase one's likelihood of acceptance, you just never know. If you look on the Penn board, more than two WHITE kids got into WHARTON with scores in the 1900s and no hook.</p>