<p>Who's going to the National Youth Leadership Forum in medicine? I'm going to the Philadelphia one. Does someone know of the cheapest way to travel from Massachusetts to Pennsylvania? I love Philly!</p>
<p>I'm going too, but I'm going to the one in Boston.
My friend went to the Philadelphia one last year(he said it was really interesting and he actually got to see a surgery).</p>
<p>Hey izzi! Some questions for ur friend: how was philly and where did he visit? how did he get there from NY?</p>
<p>The last time I spoke to him, he said that it was "kool" lol.
If you want more info or to introduce yourself to others going.</p>
<p>Is anyone going to the NYLF on law this November 8-13? I would like to know if anyone heard of the National Youth Leadership Forum on law and if it is worth $1290 to go to.</p>
<p>Thankx</p>
<p>Has anyone been to the National Youth Leadership Forum on Medicine? I was reccomended to go this summer, but I couldn't because of financial problems. I want to go next summer. If anyone has gone, can you tell me if it was a rewarding experience and if it will do anything for my app.?</p>
<p>Come on people!</p>
<p>I don't know if this will help, because the program that I did was the National Young Leaders Conference, which is politically related but affiliated w/ NYLF-Medicine. I've talked to people who went to it, and the programs were very much alike, so here goes:
Basically, the structure for most of the NYLF/NYLC/CYLC programs is that the large group of 400+ students is broken down into small groups. For you, it will be called MED Groups, or something like that. You spend a large part of your hours in these small group rooms learning about various topics, discussing the most recent lecturer, etc. Your group also rides a bus together and goes to different places, like medical schools, etc.
Highlights for the med program:
~~~Med School Visit
~~~Shadow a doctor for a half day (I dont know what the doctor-student ratio would be)
~~~Various speakers: one "keynote" speaker, sometimes highly regarded, sometimes not, a resident, and a few others
~~~ Touring whatever city you go to</p>
<p>Basically, what it boils down to (in my mind) is this:
~~~Have you been there before? If you have, then the rushed tour of the places will be useless (ie: 10 minutes per monument, 30 minutes to visit an entire museum)
~~~Would you be able to shadow a surgeon back home? If you can, that's another thing that won't be new to you. Also, a lot of the topics addressed by the speakers, if you've read a lot on the subject, won't be new to you (ie, a 300 page book on ethics will teach you more than a 1 hour discussion, although you could glean some new insights into the topic)
~~~Could you do something else with $1500+ (I had to choose between NYLC and going to Spain for a week)</p>
<pre><code> Hope this helps. Post anymore questions you may have.
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<p>I've had some friends go to NYLF-Law and NYLF-Medicine. See my post (#3) </p>
<p>And substitute the word "Law" for "Medicine."
The gist of it is the same. You'll spend a lot of time in small group discussions running "simulations" (ie: mock trial, mock debate, writing a brief, etc). Ask yourself the basic questions that I put at the bottom of the thread: have I been there before? Would I be able to learn about this profession in books or by shadowing/working with a local attorney? Could I spend $1290 + airfare on something else? (ie: trip to Spain w/ Spanish club, vacation, etc)
Hope this helps.</p>
<p>If I did go I'd attend the one in Chicago, and I live in a subarb off of Chicago. So, basically, I would have seen most of the museums that they would take us too. I really want to go to listen to the speakers like Patch Adams and view the surgery. I don't have the oppurtunity to shadow doctors in my area because of HIPPA laws.The money, might be an issue, I might want to go somewhere next summer. Anyways do these programs look good to colleges. I want to show that I'm interested in medicine, will attending prove that, or just show that I have $1500 to blow?</p>
<p>I believe that a lot of the ECs and awards, research, etc. that can be listed on a college application is all about presentation. For example, if I was listing on my college app. on the section that has one list "activity/weeks per year/hours per week" and put Community Service Club, 40 weeks per year, 4 hours per week, that looks good. It shows you like to help your community. But if you mention in your essays, keeping with the community service example, about how you learned about how it's fun to serve the community and how you developed a PASSION which made you decide to volunteer in other venues, then you'll look even better. </p>
<p>The recurring theme at CollegeConfidential, you may have noticed, is doing not a lot but a few activities that you have a PASSION in. If you use NYLF-Med to further your passion, perhaps slip it into your essays, and complement your other volunteer/medically related ECs with it, you'll be in good shape. </p>
<p>However, you should keep in mind that NYLF is only a week long (or 10 days, as it is in the summer). It WON'T reflect any in-depth shadowing. If you have already seen the museums, and perhaps want to save the money for something else, don't go. It seems like you're sort of leaning that way already. At elite or even semi-elite college, almost everyone that has a reasonable chance of getting in has been sent invitations from NYLF or NYLC. It is not that selective. Also, books about medicine and stories about surgical residents, etc. are available at your local library (and they're free!). That being said, the programs are very interesting and I learned a lot from my experience. Nothing beats talking to doctors one on one. In the end it's up to you. (And posting what you finally decide, and why, might also help others make that choice.) </p>
<p>(btw, If you want to view surgery on your computer for free, PSedrishMD posted this cool website on another thread: <a href="http://www.or-live.com/index.cfm%5B/url%5D">http://www.or-live.com/index.cfm</a> )</p>
<p>One of the schools I'm thinking about is UIC (University of Illinois at Chicago) which has an 8 year medical program. Since this is not a very prestigous school, and the program is only open for Illinois residents, I was thinking doing NYLF will be an added bonus because it would look good to a state school, in which not many other people might be selected to attend NYLF. For this reason, among the others I said before I want to attend. Does that sound reasonable? Or am I completely wrong in my hypothesis?</p>
<p>BTW, that website was really great! And the link you posted that leads to your post on another thread, doesn't work.</p>
<p>Also about your suggestion of reading about surgeries is good and I would really do it, but I'm really low on time, as I'm currently involved in a bunch of other things. That's another reason why NYLF might be good, it would give me a shortened version of what's going on presently in the medical field. </p>
<p>I seemed to be getting more confused by the moment. Atleast it's not until next summer. lol.</p>
<p>Sorry about the link. I believe the moderator combined the two NYLF threads that were going on (you may notice that some of the posts don't exactly line up), so whatever I have to say about NYLF is on this MEGA-NYLF thread, lol. </p>
<p>I don't know about your idea that NYLF will look better to a school w/ less prestige, your guess is as good as mine. I will say, however, that the program doesn't show that much leadership: it shows that you were invited, interested enough to put down $1500, and that you went. That's all. Your experience there means nothing more than that unless it profoundly influences you (or your application essays, to take the cynical approach). </p>
<p>Sorry if it sounds like I'm repeating myself, which I am for the most part. As for being too busy to read, I have a plan for you if you decide not to go to NYLF: pretend that you're going, set aside 2 days (less than NYLF would take) and read two books: "The Making of a Surgeon", by William Nolen and "First, Do No Harm." These are the most amazing books: the first is about a surgeon's residency training, and the second is a narrative about ethics, written like a novel. Amazing books...</p>
<p>Thanks. I'm going to go write those two books on my calendar after I post. As for NYLF I'll leave that decision for after the PSAT and ACT. lol. Thanks for all the great advice.</p>
<p>No problem :)</p>
<p>how do you obtain an application?</p>
<p>Is the NYLF really that good. Like would colleges think it's amazing. Don't you just like listen to people talking about important subjects. It seems like a waste of money for like 1500 dollars.</p>
<p>yes it seems like it.. i won't go if i can't pay.. do u kno where you get the applications?</p>
<p>I went to NYLC, so it's prob. the same thing. It's good to go to the forum if you want to see the city that it's being held in, esp. DC. I probably wouldn't have liked it so much if it wasn't so much of a hook-up fest. Pretty girls+intelligence= awesome combination. Better than what my school seems to have anyway.</p>