<p>While my daughter did not attend the summer program, she is at CAP21 as a sophomore. Last year she lived in one of the residence halls with no air conditioning, and she about died! That was only for the months of September and May; I imagine the summer months would be a lot worse. If there is ANY possibility of getting a dorm with A/C, go for it!!</p>
<p>Yeah, I stayed over with a friend who was in Reuben over the summer and it was TORTURE. Soooo hot.</p>
<p>Can someone tell me the differences in the two Cap summer programs? Also, how do these programs compare to Northwestern's summer program?</p>
<p>Hi, Alliesmom, we are in the same position as you (looking at summer, precollege programs) so I cannot tell you that much. However, I do know enough to distinguish between the "two" CAP21 programs. One is run by and through the Collaborative Arts Project (CAP21) and requires an audition. The other is run through New York University's Tisch School and does not require an audition, though applicants must send essays, recommendations, grades, and such. Those going straight through CAP do not earn college credits; those going through NYU do. Some contend that, because kids have to audition to get into the CAP21 program (the straight-through-CAP one, that is!), the level of talent at the program is higher. I am told that the kids going through NYU/Tisch can (if they move quickly enough!) get housing in NYU's dorms during the program, but I also think housing might be available for the straight CAPpies, too. To be honest, both programs sound very good. I will be interested in what others with more experience in this area have to tell us. :)</p>
<p>Does anyone know how the NYU programs compare to Northwestern's summer program? If she does Northwestern's program, I do not think my daughter will do the musical theater extension because she usually works at a musical theater camp at the end of the summer. I have heard great things about Northwestern's program however, without the extension it is just straight theater. I know its good for an actor to get training is all aspects of theater. Can anyone help us here?</p>
<p>Alliesmom, the NYU/CAP21 program is musical theater, and Northwestern's High School Institute (w/o the MT extension) is straight drama. That would be the biggest difference, except cost. NHSI is much less expensive. Several students from my D's high school (a public performing arts hs) attend NHSI each year for the drama program, and reportedly find it quite worthwhile. I know that there also have been several kids on this board who have gone there, and I believe who have attended the whole 7 weeks, which includes the musical theater extension. FYI, Northwestern has not yet put its 2007 summer info online. I spoke yesterday to a woman in the office there who said to keep checking over the next few weeks. I am told their music institute is also top notch.</p>
<p>Just a quick correction to a previous post on housing. Students in the NYU program are REQUIRED to stay in NYU dorms, and in fact the fee for the program includes tuition, room and board. Last year, the students stayed in an air-conditioned freshman dorm on Washington Square.</p>
<p>This brings up another difference between the two programs. The NYU program is highly-supervised and highly-structured. Students are not allowed to be out on their own in NYC at any time, except for a brief period on Sundays in a circumscribed area in Greenwich Village. Evenings are spent with the group, as well as students in the Strasberg and Experimental Theatre program, attending various performances in New York City, including broadway plays and musicals, off-broadway plays, operas, performance art, and the like. When the students are not out in the evenings or on weekends, they are attending masterclasses or preparing for their final presentations for their required coursework.</p>
<p>Another difference, college course credit comes with the NYU program. One course -- Theatre in NY -- is the springboard for the all evening events. Students also keep a journal, discuss what they have seen, and prepare a final project. The result is that the students are busy from early in the morning until late at night, since they are in studio all day, like the regular CAP 21 kids. The studio courses last summer were taught in the Tisch School itself on the NYU campus as opposed to the CAP 21 studio on 18th St., but the studio faculty is CAP 21 regular faculty. The NYU coursework is taught by NYU faculty.</p>
<p>My daughter did the program last summer and found the experience to be invaluable. I'm sure the same is true of the studio CAP 21 program, which is less structured and longer. Housing is available through NYU for the studio CAP 21 program, but it is not guaranteed.</p>
<p>I hope this helps.</p>
<p>NYU Tisch is a 4 wk. non-audition program as Cap21/Conservatory is a 6 wk. audition (believe that this past summer they had received well over 500 applications for 64 slots). The 4 wk. program's dorms are chaperoned as the 6 wk. is not. Hence a level of maturity is necessary to be totally on ones own. I can only speak for Cap/21/Con. as it was a wonderful experience (CMU pre-college is another program to check). Northwestern is also by audition (tapes are fine for both), however, the musical extension (added 2 wks. to the 4) is by "invitation" only.....offered to a select few. It is an all day 7 day wk. Although did receive the honor, decided on a more relaxed schedule (10-5/wkends. off) Cap21 & to get a feel of the big city (saw 25 shows - most @ disc. :-). If you decide, book the dorm/apt. asap - even before acceptance (you will only lose $50 if canceled)....and make sure it is air conditioned! Hope this helped......good luck!</p>
<p>Can anyone whose kid attended the NYU/Tisch/CAP21 summer program tell me how one goes about making sure to reserve NYU housing? I went to the link for the summer program and clicked on HOUSING, and it just describes the two places that kids are housed for summer programs. I recall someone here saying that parents whose kids are applying should reserve a space even before they hear if the student has been accepted.</p>
<p>NMR, unless something has changed, the kids in the Tisch/CAP21 summer program must stay in housing. Since they have no choice, if they are admitted to the program, they automatically get housing. It's part of the 'package' and the cost is included. To be sure, drop Patricia Decker an email at <a href="mailto:patricia.decker@nyu.edu">patricia.decker@nyu.edu</a>. If she doesn't know the answer, she'll direct you to the right person.</p>
<p>I think NotMamaRose may have been asking about the other CAP21 summer program? That is the one where you must reserve NYU Housing. The one through NYU is like AlwaysAMom says. The other one is not though.</p>
<p>NMR,</p>
<p>If your child is interested in the 6 WEEK CAP21 program (not the Tisch 4 week one), housing is NOT guaranteed so you should make a reservation in advance (if your child is not accepted you only lose the 50$ deposit). Per the NYu summer housing website(<a href="http://www.nyu.edu/summer/housing/):%5B/url%5D">http://www.nyu.edu/summer/housing/):</a>
"We will be updating our website for Summer 2007 in early January 2007 and we anticipate that the 2007 Summer Housing application will be available in late January." </p>
<p>Last year, I checked every day and I think it went live around the 25th or so of January. I made my D's reservation although she did not audition until Feb 11 for CAP. She made it in and had someplace to stay! </p>
<p>Hope this helps - it is a great program !!</p>
<p>MikksMom</p>
<p>Oh, I get it! Sorry to have my confusion result in confusion for everyone else. Yes, my D is probably applying to the NYU-sponsored CAP21 program, the one with all the supervision. :) :) That apparently means I don't have to worry about reserving housing ahead of time: they apparently will house the kids that they accept. Hope I finally got that right. (And shhhhh! Don't let NYU know that the mother of an applicant was too stupid to keep this straight, or they won't want my kid. I can only say that she is not blonde like me. :)</p>
<p>Thanks to all.
NMR</p>
<p>NotMamaRose -</p>
<p>You have it right. You will automatically get housing with the NYU program. The cost of the housing is included as part of the program, and as you mentioned, highly supervised!</p>
<p>Good luck to your daughter with her application! I'm sure she will love the program.</p>
<p>I'm a little confused. I thought there was only two summer MT programs in some relation to NYU: the CAP-21 summer program and the Steinhardt summer program. I've never heard of the Tisch one. Here's the link to the Steinhardt page: <a href="http://steinhardt.nyu.edu/music/page.php?page_id=561%5B/url%5D">http://steinhardt.nyu.edu/music/page.php?page_id=561</a>. Is this the one that everyone has been refering to as the Tisch one or is there another? When I talked to someone at NYU, they emailed that link to me as the only musical theatre summer program. Were they just confused? Because, geez louise, I'M confused.</p>
<p>danimal88---
there are 2 NYU affiliated MT programs, and one non.
the two NYU affiliated programs are:
NYU-CAP21: 4 weeks
NYU-Steinhardt: 3 weeks</p>
<p>the one non-NYU affiliated program is:
CAP21: 6 weeks</p>
<p>they are all MT programs</p>
<p>Thanks Jessica! The question that follows, I suppose, is would anyone reccommend one NYU summer program (Tisch or Steinhardt) over the other?</p>
<p>I think, and this is not based on any sort of personal experience, that it depends on what you want to do. If you want a more music based program, go Steinhardt. If you want a more acting based program, choose either the Tisch-CAP or the CAP program. I also think that, if you are looking at this as a way to get to know colleges, then if you plan on applying to Steinhardt, I would say do the Steinhardt program. If you plan on applying to Tisch, do the Tisch one or the CAP one.</p>
<p>I will be attending the CAP21 6 week musical theatre program this summer!</p>
<p>is that the professional one or the pre-college?</p>