NYU (CAS ECON) vs UMich (ROSS)

<p>for BB placement in NYC</p>

<p>Ross=Stern>CAS</p>

<p>CAS gets the same recruiters as the sternies, and all of the positions are open to CAS students. Whether they get the job is up to the CAS kids in the interviews. But if you got into Ross, you should probably go there and study finance (if thats what you want to do).</p>

<p>whats the difference between CAS economics and Stern economics? They are two different schools, so if one would want to major in economics which would be ideal?</p>

<p>Stern has better recruiting than CAS. If you want IB, then Stern's probably better.</p>

<p>Only 50% of those who get into Michigan get into Ross, although you may be one of the 70 or so who got offered freshman admit status--in which case you don't care about that stat.</p>

<p>In general, both schools will have great recruiting--although recruiting will obviously be better at NYU because of its location.</p>

<p>Having said that, at NYU if you take CAS Econ and are not in Stern, you may not even be able to get an interview through the placement office for an IB spot since they will be entirely taken up by the NYU Stern students, 80% of whom are finance majors and most of whom are trying to get into IB jobs.</p>

<p>I'd take Ross over NYU CAS Econ. You'll get first priority on interviews there. But I'd only do this if you are sure you can get into Ross in the first place. Because if you can't then you will be a Econ major at Mich, which is worse than an Econ major at NYU because of the location.</p>

<p>And, as you can tell by the above NYU Stern is better than both NYU CAS Econ and Michigan Ross in my opinion.</p>

<p>Best of success.</p>

<p>hmm.. it looks like nyu</p>

<p>i'm on michigan's waitlist, so i can forget about that really</p>

<p>thanks for the comments guys!</p>

<p>As a clarification to jmerc's question above, Stern is NYU's business school. People there major in finance (#1 choice for students who go to Stern--and Stern is ranked as the second best school for finance in the country--the Wharton schol at UPenn being first). In addition to finance you can major in marketing, accounting, or general management. </p>

<p>Economics is not a major in the business school at NYU. Economics is a major at NYU through the College of Arts and Sciences (CAS). The focus is different--and this program is not as highly ranked as NYU's finance program through Stern. Thus the reason for the rankings given above by me and others.</p>

<p>Ross is Michigan's business school. Michigan also offers Economics not through the business school, but rather through the general arts and sciences school.</p>

<p>This is different than at many universities where Economics is offered through both the Arts and Sciences schools and through the business schools. Two examples of this are Indiana University Bloomington and Purdue University.</p>

<p>There is absolutely no difference between Stern recruiting and CAS recruiting. Both of them go through CareerNet and every ibank lists economics as an acceptable major, so saying that Stern has "better" recruiting is bollocks.</p>

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There is absolutely no difference between Stern recruiting and CAS recruiting. Both of them go through CareerNet and every ibank lists economics as an acceptable major, so saying that Stern has "better" recruiting is bollocks.

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I'm sure that IBs recruit CAS students as well, but if given the choice between a Stern student and a CAS student (given that they both have similar stats) the firm will choose the Stern student.</p>

<p>Also not the case. Sometimes firms pick CAS kids over Sternies bc of the reputation that Sternies have on the street (arrogant, *******s, etc.). There are certainly less CAS kids competing for these spots and yes, you will have to answer questions as to why you aren't in Stern and why IB interests you, but CAS Econ majors have equal chance. </p>

<p>There are also advantages they enjoy: </p>

<p>-they aren't considered just number crunchers--they have qualitative abilities as well</p>

<p>-since they aren't at Stern, its not like all of their friends are rushing into IB, they are doing it independently and that shows initiative</p>

<p>The fact is that boutiques, not BBs, will favor Sternies because they don't have the extensive formal training programs that BBs do. Remember, BBs hire from a lot of ivies, where people don't come out with finance degrees, so they have the training programs in place to hire econ majors.</p>

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The fact is that boutiques, not BBs, will favor Sternies because they don't have the extensive formal training programs that BBs do. Remember, BBs hire from a lot of ivies, where people don't come out with finance degrees, so they have the training programs in place to hire econ majors.

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It would be great to see the placement reports from both CAS and Stern. </p>

<p>The reason why BB's hire econ majors from the Ivy's (and all majors for that matter) is not necessarily the education they're recieving, but the fact that those kids already made the first cut by actually getting into the school. It's not necessarily the education the Harvard kids are getting that makes them so attractive to BB firms, buts its the fact that those kids were good enough to actually get into Harvard. </p>

<p>A similar thing could be stated about NYU. The standards of getting into Stern are much higher than those at CAS and that's why the BB firms would be more attracted to Stern kids than CAS kids. It's the SELECTIVITY of Stern that makes BB firms prefer Stern kids over CAS kids. </p>

<p>Now don't get me wrong, NYU is a great school and working hard at CAS would definently get you an interview with a BB. All I'm saying is that being in Stern would give you better odds than being in CAS.</p>

<p>yes of course, Stern gives you a better chance to get interviews. But if you have the resume to get noticed my recruiters, its up to you to prove it in the interview. CAS won't hold you back once your foot is in the door.</p>

<p>The Stern kid may be more likely to get an interview, but a "sternie" wont get a job just because of the fact that they went to Stern. A BB given the choice between a smart CAS kid and an average Stern kid will take the smart CAS kid because he can make more money for their bank.</p>