NYU or Mcgill?

<p>way to revive a thread from a year ago
"There is not a single student at McGill who is not brilliant."
i'm speechless.</p>

<p>haha...I just read the whole thread without realizing its an year old.</p>

<p>Actually, i'll say NYU is harder to get into. McGill takes students with good grades, but slightly lower SAT scores, but they do look at ECs and essays.
McGill doesnt. McGill seems to really be, if you meet minimums and exceed by a bit, you could have a great shot of getting in. </p>

<p>Also, NYUs acceptance is lower than 35%. McGill's is like 50ish.</p>

<p>I'm going to McGill next year though. I think overall McGill is the best. Definitely has the rigor going for it.</p>

<p>Also, that THE rankings cant be taken literally. Rankings should give reasonable results and THE ones don't.</p>

<p>First off, it is a brand new ranking. 2 years old means it isnt old enough for credibility. </p>

<p>Second, rankings should stay relatively the same. When Berkeley, imo the best public school in the world, is ranked in top 10 and then suddenly drops to the mid 20s, something is wrong. And what made McGill jump from 21 to 12?</p>

<p>And who has the right to say what school is ultimately the best? </p>

<p>Berkeley is definitely better than McGill, no offense (i mean, i shouldnt be insulting, since im going to McGill this fall). Think about it.</p>

<p>Berkeley chemistry= most influential chemistry labs in world history (atomic bomb, nonlinear particle accelerators, and the list goes on). Berkeley has over 60 Nobel Laureates(5 on faculty right now) under its belt. McGill has 7.</p>

<p>Berkeley Grad school business is one of the best in the world. Nearly every department for humanities graduate and undergraduate are among the world's top 15, many being top 5 or so.</p>

<p>For sciences and engineering, berkeley is often seen as one of the worlds very best, with MIT, Stanford, Caltech, to name a few.</p>

<p>I mean, McGill is an amazing school, but should be somewhere in the 20's or 30s on that list.</p>

<p>Also, you do realize that no other lists put McGill as high. Most of them list McGill at around 40-45.</p>

<p>I do think McGill is better than NYU though from an overall academic standpoint as well as prestige wise. And I also think there isnt much use in reviving threads that are centuries old. I can almost guarantee that the OP will never look at this thread again, and perhaps none of the posters who posted in this thread will.</p>

<p>i find it ironic that this popped up...im not sure what id choose.</p>

<p>if anyone recalls, i was rejected from NYU early decision. i wanted to go there sosososo badly and even though i didnt get in i was really upset. new york is my favorite city, i love the nightlife and fashion cultures and it is hard to match that anywhere else. plus, i really wanted to (and still do want to) live in nyc when im older, and i felt like my rejection made that an impossibility. i know that is absolutely not the case and i plan on working towards nyu or columbia for grad school, but based on my feelings about applying there ED, i would probably choose nyu ove rmcgill if i was accepted.</p>

<p>but with that said, im absolutely thrilled i was accepted to mcgill, and will most likely attend. i havent been to montreal since i was younger, so im really not in a place where i can accurately compare it with nyu. mcgill's arts program is very good, on par with nyu's i would say. also my goal is to become as close to fluent in french as possible, and the fact that montreal is mainly a french-speaking city cannot be beat. also, i love to ski and montreal has those opportunities closer to it than nyu does. also, in my mind the lowered drinking age and much-reduced tuition price make mcgill even more appealing.</p>

<p>obviously i cant really judge at least at this point...i do love nyc but looking back at all the benefits mcgill has and how well these coordinate with my interests, i feel like mcgill could end up being the perfect place for me. </p>

<p>tell me the rankings dont matter and that nyu is actually harder to get into (i say its mainly because of nyc appeal, not necessarily academic although that is a factor), because i know that. BUT i always feel a little better telling myself that mcgill is 12th ranked in the world, while nyu is 50th or 59th. heheh.</p>

<p>I'm not really sure if all this info is true about Desautels Management. How come it says that it has been ranked by Maclean's as Number 1 business school in Canada since 2003?</p>

<p>I have the exact same problem w/ McGill vs. NYU. I was deferred from NYU CAS but accepted to its General Studies Program (meaning my first 2 yrs are smaller liberal arts classes then I'm admitted to CAS). I went to an information session Feb. 28th and it sounded like a really good program. I was accepted to McGill Arts and McGill Science two days ago, and now I'm stuck deciding between my two top schools. I'm so torn because I love NYC and I have family there, plus a cousin who goes to NYU. At the same time, Montreal really appealed to me, as did the fact that I'd be able to put my 4 yrs of high school French to use. I want to major in psychology or double major in psychology and neuroscience. I feel like I'd have better resources and internships at NYU/in NYC but the programs at McGill would be better. Anyone else planning on studying psychology (or neuroscience) or know which school would be better for that major?</p>

<p>er x3 rin, I am doing the exact same thing as u. Psych and neuroscience are my favorite subjects. I would seriously choose McGill over NYU any day for science. There isnt much of a difference in the internship and research opportunities b/w McGill and NYU because both schools are in cities...
And there shouldn't even be a debate about which schools science program is better...</p>

<p>I basically have to make a decision between McGill(if i get in ) and Cornell. Its almost impossible for me to choose between those two ? any suggestions ?</p>

<p>^both have bad weather and it's hard to get A's at both. </p>

<p>McGill has better looking students. </p>

<p>Cornell has a better reputation state-side.</p>

<p>Both are respected by top grad schools.</p>

<p>I feel that Cornell is probably a more conducive environment to really focus academically and secure grad school placement. </p>

<p>Really depends on your priorities.</p>

<p>BTW, my roommate just got into Stanford, MIT, and Caltech for masters programs in engineering/aeronautics. Not an easy feat. And he pays all of 8k/year to go to McGill. Pretty good return on investment.</p>

<p>I just received my acceptance email from the faculty of management ... It says they accepted only 600 students from a pool of 5000 !</p>

<p>that cant be right!^^^600/5000, no way. </p>

<p>WUTANG! glad to see you back on McGill forums, haha!</p>

<p>Don't want to make you feel bad, but either they're lying or you read it wrongly b/c management is the easiest program to get into and the overall acceptance rate is >50%, which must mean that management accepts at least 2500/5000.</p>

<p>maybe it's 600/500.. that sounds a lot more like the acceptance rate for management than 600/5000 lol</p>

<p>rohan, if you already got accepted at Cornell, you must be under a binding agreement to go there. In either case, I would take Cornell in a second. Even though I'm prolly gonna end up at McG.</p>

<p>yea I am but I am also international(living in US since my parents work here) so I have to apply for a student visa for Cornell which is not always guaranteed.
So I don't know how the binding agreement applies to that but I was told that the agreement is only limited to US.
Also, paying for Cornell as an international with no fin aid is a b!tch</p>

<p>Wow it's amazing how I have similar issues discussed here. I would love to go to McGill so I might sound like I'm rationalizing in some parts of this post.</p>

<p>I have the same dilemma as BWB07 (not sure if you're even reading this now) - I got accepted into NYU's GSP but I've always had my heart set on McGill. I'm also possibly going to study Art History, and I've heard that NYU has an excellent program. However, I think I'd also like to study languages and history....how is Arts at McGill?</p>

<p>Rohan115 -
I also applied to both Cornell and McGill, and I think if I'm accepted to both, I'll be stuck. I have typical Asian relatives who just basically assume I'll choose Cornell because it's an Ivy and blah blah blah, and I know I shouldn't be worried about prestige, but then again, is there a difference in job placement? I'm not sure which one is better for a humanities girl like me, Cornell or McGill? I definitely love how McGill has good academics with a cultural city, while Cornell is in the middle of nowhere (I'm a big city girl). Plus I want to learn French, but honestly, I could do that anywhere, so I wouldn't choose a school based solely on that point. And as inclined as I feel towards Cornell for it's prestige, I don't think choosing it based on the fact that it's an Ivy is personally a good decision either...any thoughts?</p>

<p>Also, I was wondering if those College Prowle* books are any good? My school keeps an updated library of them for students to check out, and I've read about McGill and Cornell (still have to read about NYU) They gave McGill academics A (basically, McGill got A's in most parts except for weather and computers) Cornell academics was B+ (that's all I remember) and it just seemed to me that McGill students are more satisfied and happy. I don't know how reliable these books are though...</p>

<p>You know what I would do? Just visit the schools on your own time and try to sit in one of the classes.</p>

<p>^^ A solid idea, but make sure you email the professors first, and talk to them about the course. Don't just pick something you're interested in blindly go in. If you can, get the syllabus and check out what the work load is like, and make sure you can sit in on a typical lecture, not a say the lecture after a test, or something like that (keep your variables minimized).</p>

<p>Also to the "classic" McGill vs. Cornell debate: if you only care about prestige, Cornell's the way to go. If you care about a happy 4+ years, visit both and decide on feel. I'm sick of this, "go where job placement is best," crap. News flash, it's hard to get a job if your grades suck (something that can happen in your unhappy with where you're at).</p>

<p>yea...I ll do all that IF i get into McGill. Right now, it seems like thats not happening( since they changed my status to Reviewed-Decision Pending ) :(</p>

<p>ICrisis - that's a good idea, except I don't live in N. America so I don't think I'll have time to visit.</p>

<p>drmambo - yeah I know what you mean. I think I would be a lot happier in McGill...if I ever get in that is. Which brings me to rohan115 point - my status is Reviewed-Decision Pending too...been that way for a few weeks. It's really making me nervous. Classmates of mine with lower stats have already gotten in, but they applied earlier, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. My counselor told me my statistics should easily get me in...I hope he's right. He emailed their head of admissions to check on everyone who's applied, and for me, they said that they still need to "look at where their numbers are" so apparently I might be on the "bubble" - I could get in or I might not :S:S Ahh I'm so nervous! I really really really want to get in :(</p>