NYU vs. Baruch

<p>Is it worth going to NYU for undergrad or should I stick to Baruch and aim at NYU for grad school? (Business Administration/Management Major</p>

<p>NYU is higher rated. However, it is my opinion that you should pick Baruch over NYU if you don't mind commuting. Why?</p>

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<li><p>Baruch has some great programs and great professors, especially in accounting and finance. This is not to say that NYU doesn't have the same,but Baruch, at least, comes close in quality in my opinion. </p></li>
<li><p>Baruch has one of the strongest and biggest alumni base of sucessful people in the country. I have traveled a great deal and interface with a number of business people and executives. I always run into Baruch alumni. This translates into good job possibilities and placement especially in accounting and consulting.</p></li>
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<p>However, don't take my word for it. Here are some statistics posted from Baruch's web site:</p>

<p>Money magazine’s Money Guide ranked Baruch among the top 20 nonresidential colleges nationwide.</p>

<p>Baruch is the second most selective campus for undergraduate admissions among public institutions in New York State after the U.S. Military Academy and fifth among all institutions after Juilliard, Cooper Union, and Columbia (US News & World Report). </p>

<p>Baruch was named the most ethnically diverse institution of higher education in the United States by US News & World Report. </p>

<p><strong>Baruch tied Harvard University in 1999 in Accounting Today’s “100 most influential people in accounting” for graduates with bachelor’s degrees.</strong></p>

<p>Baruch’s part-time MBA is consistently ranked among the top 20 programs in the nation (US News & World Report). </p>

<p>Baruch’s Zicklin School of Business “sets a new standard” with its Full-Time MBA Program (Crain’s New York Business). </p>

<p>Established only eight years ago, Baruch’s School of Public Affairs is already ranked among the top 50 public affairs programs in the nation for its Master of Public Administration program (US News & World Report). </p>

<p><strong>More senior executives hold degrees from The City University of New York than any other university in the nation (Standard & Poor’s).</strong></p>

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<li><p>Baruch is very inexpensive. I think instate tuition is an unbelievable $4,000 and out of state tuition is $360 per credit. Compare this to NYU's $27000+ tuition, and that doesn't take into account the high miscellaneous fees charged by NYU. There is no way that NYU is worth 6 times that of Baruch or even double in my opinion.</p></li>
<li><p>Over 95% of the faculty at Baruch has PHDs (from Baruch's web site), and most have experience in private industry. When I attended there, I never had a graduate student or teaching assistant. I don't know if that is still true.</p></li>
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<p>However, as I noted at the start of my post, Baruch is a commuter school, unlike that of NYU. You can stay in apartments in NY, but you will find that the social scene is very commuter oriented. Also, Baruch is a no nonsense school located in a serious business district of Manhattan. NYU is in Washington Square,which is a lot quirkier than where Baruch is located. Both are great, relatively safe locations. Both have great restaurants nearby,but NYU has a lot more students and schools nearby for socializing.</p>

<p>However, all school choices should be based on fit. You need to check out the programs and culture of each school.</p>

<p>Thank you very much for your input. It means alot to me. I do plan on getting an apartment in the city. Baruch has nice apartments nearby that are for rent pretty cheap ($2800 a month for 2 bedrooms...I can get 3 more roommates and shave it down to $700 per person). I know tat Baruch has a good program but the CUNY name just doesn't appeal to me however, I will consider Baruch over NYU because money is definitely an issue and I feel that Baruch has more bang for the buck.</p>

<p>Jahmed said,"but the CUNY name just doesn't appeal to me however":</p>

<p>Response: Please reread my post thoroughly. Baruch, in business and especially in accounting related areas, may have a better name that that of NYU due to its huge and powerful alumni base. Baruch, in my opinion, has a much better name than that of any of other City University school with the possible exception of City College itself and certainly better than that of many other schools.</p>

<p>Bottom line: I can't tell you that the Baruch name will be better or worse than that of NYU ( other than in accounting). However, I can say that it's name does carry a very strong branding for business jobs and probably better than that of most schools.</p>

<p>As a NYS resident you are paying approximately $4,000 /yr vs 31,000 in tuition alone at NYU and definitely get a bang for your buck</p>

<p>Sybbie, NYU tuition is now $31,000? Wow, that did jump since I have seen it last. Anyway, I completely agree with you.</p>

<p>When I was in high school in NYC, the only folks who went to NYU (other than Tisch) were those who couldn't get into CUNY/Baruch. NYU had a much better reputation outside of NYC from kids who wanted to spend four years in New York than from the inside.</p>

<p>Mini- we must be of the same generation. From my Brooklyn HS, the only kids who went to NYU were those who couldn't get into Brooklyn College, CCNY, Hunter or Baruch. For a lot of us, CUNY schools had a better reputation than NYU. I definitely think the CUNY reputation is improving again. I am seeing more Long Island kids going to Queens College, Hunter and Baruch.</p>

<p>Mini, I guess we are from the same generation. NYU was for kids that couldn't get into CUNY. It was expensive and never considered better than CUNY for the money. In fact,for majors other than math, we never considered NYU better than CUNY period!</p>

<p>JAhmed,
If you are currently a New York City high school senior, you must apply for the JP Morgan Chase Smart Start scholarship. You can find the app online or get one from your guidance counselor. Only 20 students are selected a year. The scholarship covers full tuition, books, fees-housing is on your own. But you are also guaranteed summer paid employment at JP Morgan which might cover your housing costs. The application is lengthly so get it as soon as you can. NYU, Columbia, Fordham, St. John's are some of the colleges who participate.<br>
All NYC high school seniors are eligible, public, private, religious schools. All majors are accepted except life sciences but strong emphasis is placed on those wishing to major in business, finance, etc.
NYU also offers a few scholarships -one is the Jack Rudin which covers quite a bit of the tuition expense. You must request a separate application from NYU for this scholarship. Also, if you are a minority, the Jackie Robinson Foundation works hand-in-hand with NYU.</p>