<p>Where to, where to?
Keep in mind: I'm Italian, like cities, but like good academics / small classes even more.
Please help me!</p>
<p>You didn’t give enough information about yourself to offer advice.</p>
<p>And I’m not sure what your Italian heritage has to do with the decision. Threre is a nice “Little Italy” section of Baltimore, with pretty good Italian restaurants. Obviously, there are more Italians in NYC, but there are more of everything in New York. If you didn’t know, Maryland has the second highest percentage of Catholics among the states (Rhode Island is #1.)</p>
<p>Hopkins and NYU are so different that they are hard to compare. Hopkins has an idylic, green, wooded campus in the north of Baltimore. On campus, you’d hardly know you were in a city. NYU, on the other hand, really has no well defined campus–its campus is New York. But people who absolutely, positively love New York don’t mind that and, in fact, may view it as a plus. I would not count myself among them. I think a nice campus is important, but that’s me. </p>
<p>What are you planning to study? Personally, I would chose Hopkins over NYU for most any field except business.</p>
<p>thanks for your reply! im not really interested in little italies or anything, its just that I DONT REALLY KNOW WHERE TO LOOK AT: I come from a completely different Country, from a completely different educational system and from a thoroughly different mentality.
I’m really attracted by macroeconomics, but not business as in ‘i want my little business to work’, and by english literature. i know, even if approximately, the differences that do exist between the two campuses, and… I JUST DONT KNOW…
for what i have gathered till now, i know nyu would be an exciting place to be, but not to study; and that hopkins would be a great place to study at (the academia, etc)…</p>
<p>it’s so hard to tell.</p>
<p>Academics wise, Johns Hopkins for anything in the natural sciences, premed, BME, etc. NYU is stronger than JHU in social sciences, math, humanities, arts, business. </p>
<p>It really does boil down to what kind of college experience you want. JHU offers a more traditional experience, but lacks the opportunities of a major city that NYU offers. Both are strong academically; in terms of excitement, NYU gets the nod. However, the city experience is not for everyone.</p>
<p>Hopkins is probably slightly more prestigious if you’re worried about that.</p>
<p>Hopkins is very much a more traditional college experience whereas I think most people go to NYU to be in NYC. If you are looking for a college with a campus, green lawns, brick walkways and a close-knit community, Hopkins definitely takes the cake no matter what you want to study. I think NYU is too massive in a city of 9 million people. </p>
<p>I think NYU is more more ideal for graduate study whereas Hopkins has a great overall undergraduate experience. I think NYU lacks a lot of undergraduate attention honestly and I think that has frustrated friends of mine who went there. Hopkins may cater to you a little bit more too - I think NYU is a little more “now you’re here, figure it out and we’ll see you at graduation in four years.” You do kind of have to fend for yourself a little bit more there. </p>
<p>I say Hopkins. Good luck.</p>
<p>thank you very much.
i assume that pre-law is better at nyu, then.</p>
<p>^^I wouldn’t make that assumption. Pre-law is a misnomer. You can major in anything and go to law school. Law schools have virtually no prerequisities–other than a command of English and a BA (or BS). Hopkins sends many graduates on to law school. </p>
<p>It is true that Hopkins doesn’t have a law school and that NYU has a very fine one. But that doesn’t effect one’s undergraduate education one iota.</p>
<p>For what its worth, Hopkins does have very strong connections in Italy–including a campus in Bologna adjacent to the University of Bologna. Italian Studies is a very strong program.</p>
<p>I think the biggest (or one of the biggest) major at Hopkins is International relations. So I wouldn’t say that Hopkins is only for science. And yes-- law schools don’t care at all about your major. Hopkins is more prestigious for undergrad.</p>
<p>First of all, thank you for your replies - they have all tended to highlight that jhu is, in a way or another, academically more prestigious and valid than nyu as concerns undergrad studies.
I obviously still don’t know what to do, as I’m also drawn to consider undegrad studies in Italy - which are free and relatively good, if it weren’t for the TOTAL lack of research in all fields.
Another minus on the side of NYU is the offer, on their part, of a place at the Liberal Studies Program, that doesn’t appear to be as good as it’s presented.</p>
<p>A minus on the side of Hopkins is Baltimore which, compared to Rome, might be a little too small.</p>
<p>I still have three weeks to think about, and three weeks to loose all sense of rationalization, heh.</p>
<p>And Hitch, International Relations seems to be extremely exciting and challenging, yes.</p>
<p>english and writing are both extremely strong programs at Hopkins.</p>
<p>In terms of academics and undergraduate life, I would say JHU wins.</p>
<p>However, location may be a big deciding factor for you, considering where you are from. I would seriously consider visiting both schools prior to deciding on either one of them. New York City has its advantages, but can be intimidating, while Baltimore, with its negatives, is still a charming multi-town city atmosphere with DC a short hop away. </p>
<p>If I were in your shoes, I would probably pick Hopkins, though NYU is a fine and fantastic institution as well.</p>
<p>Again, VISIT if possible.</p>
<p>On average, the classes at Hopkins will be smaller, and your fellow students will be a little sharper. Whether that matters to you… ? Training for law school is training in critical thinking… that happens best in either a Science related field, or a liberal art (any liberal art… english, soc, poli sci, history, philosophy, languages) delivered in a SMALL classroom with lots of interactive discussion, and precise feedback on your written work.</p>
<p>Hopkins hands down. NYU has become a better school but in my opinion it is vastly overrated (mostly because people want to be in NYC). My mom went to NYU and hated it and i visited it and hated it.</p>
<p>what about parties etc? i’m so undecided.</p>
<p>I would definitely choose John Hopkins University. You will get much more personal attention, and have much more of a chance to get to know your classmates. As you can probably imagine, students in New York would be likely to go to concerts, clubs, etc. all over the city, and not go so much to entertainment that is arranged by the school. While the opportunities to see music, art, etc. in NYC are world class, that is also a disadvantage, because you don’t see the same people in enough situations to bond with them. I think it’s much easier to get to know people at a place like Johns Hopkins. It is also a more prestigious school. And I agree with the poster that said that pre-law is unimportant. Study history or English or economics, and you’ll be fine. If you’re planning to get a law degree in the U.S. you will still need to study for three extra years. Getting a solid liberal arts education with lots of practice in writing would be ideal for that.</p>
<p>I made up my mind.
Hopkins is the way.
I’ll be probably applying as a transfer to Columbia, provided that I have a stellar GPA.</p>
<p>Thanks everyone!</p>
<p>And yes, students at Hopkins are MUCH sharper than those attending NYU.</p>