<p>I have always heard that NYU is a really top school, and many people I know have mistakenly called it an ivy league school. </p>
<p>Therefore I was pretty surprised when i looked the college rankings to find that NYU is pretty low, even behind UCLA and USC, which I thought if would for sure be ahead of. </p>
<p>How well known, or prestigious, is NYU? Is it well known but just not as high ranked as it should be? Or am i placing too much emphasis on rankings?</p>
<p>NYU is a good school and there is really no difference academically between NYU, UCLA or USC, so I would not worry about. They are not playing for a National Championship in football, so I would not worry to much about the ranking. An employer will not choose not to hire you because you chose NYU over USC / UCLA; they will not care. Unless the US News went to a class at all these schools all their rankings are based on numbers given to them and input into a formula, so they really do not know the quality of the education given at NYU, UCLA, or USC.</p>
<p>Probably both.</p>
<p>NYU was formerly a commuter school (my mom went there in the 70s) but with the NYC rennaissance (kicked off by the wall street boom accompanying global financial deregulation and kicked into high gear by Rudy's 1990s gentrification drive), NYU has blossomed.</p>
<p>New York became so desirable that there were more brilliant students from the country and world than Columbia could accept--more all star faculty too.</p>
<p>So NYU could effectively take this and use it to build themselves up into a very respectable school.</p>
<p>You are placing too much emphasis on rankings. But if you are planning on majoring in philosophy, you should know that NYU is always 1st or 2nd (depending on whether Rutgers and Michigan are 2nd or 3rd). NYU is top 3 in film (USC or UCLA are the others). Probably top 5 in accounting. Other than that, it's still a great school.</p>
<p>NYU is a superb school and enjoys a great reputation and is ACTIVELY recruiting all over the place...including the South. I know, because they were after my D last year like nobody's uncle.....</p>
<p>but its a unique "campus" in a unique setting with unique student body. Go there and see for yourself and see if its a fit for you and your personality. Its also a very large school, so if you are looking for something more intimate and tight nit......then its likely not for you.</p>
<p>If you want a traditional campus, with a tight nit student body of high achievers where character counts a great deal....then look at Fordham. Either Lincoln Center or Rose Hill-Bronx Campus. </p>
<p>Prestige is largely in people's heads. Go to the school where you fit the best and will thrive and be happiest. Good luck.</p>
<p>just putting it my two cents...if u look at NYU Stern, its like one of the top 10 undergraduate colleges for business...CAS is also a good school of liberal arts...the rankings...which factor in SATs/GPA give NYU a low rank because (this is my opinion only!) the avg SATs/GPA at the other FIVE SCHOOLS like steinhart, gallatin, tisch, brings the collective gpa down a bit...so that's why its kinda low on the rankings....but seriouly u shouldn't consult the rankings like a bible</p>
<p>"Is it well known but just not as high ranked as it should be? "</p>
<p>NYU is definitely very well known and has a good name.
True, its ranking is not in the top 30, but who said the USNWR rankings are accurate?
Even Berkeley isn't in the top 20.</p>
<p>NYU is well known and highly regarded in Europe and in many parts of Asia, as well as in the U.S. NYU's Stern School of Business offers the top undergraduate finance major in the country, according to BusinessWeek. The Tisch School is outstanding. Both the business school and the arts school offer, arguably, the best location in the world to study each discipline. In answer to your questions, NYU is very well known, prestigious and some schools should be ranked higher.</p>
<p>The status of NYU has risen as the safety and prosperity of NYC has risen.
They tend to attract a wealthy student body as their endowment is very small, but I suppose there is a certain cache to that as well. I would guess that their real estate is worth billions, if they were ever in a position to sell.
Not Ivy, but more prestigious than ever.</p>
<p>NYU is a very good school, however it has been overrated by many in the past few years. although stern is a great business school and no one can debate the merits of NYU's performing arts education, the CAS can be described as 2nd or even 3rd tier at best. NYU is really exposed by its admissions. Case in point: around 20-25 kids from my school got accepted into NYU last year, as opposed to only 3 to UPenn, 3 to Harvard, 1 to Columbia, and 1 to Princeton.</p>
<p>if you consider name recognition alone, nyu should be up there with harvard,mit, yale, and ucla....</p>
<p>NYU asks an important question on its application: ASIDE from its location in the heart of NYC, why do you want to attend NYU? A lot of students who take a family vacation or h.s. tour to see a Broadway show and stay in a hotel think how great it would be to attend college in NYC, without really examining NYU. It's important to also understand NYU's programmatic and academic offerings, and speak about those on your app. </p>
<p>A consideration is whether you'll miss having some green space exclusively university, because Washington Square belongs to everybody. Instead of a "campus quad" imagine the vibrant urban neighborhood of the West Village/Greenwich Village. The larger playing field is all the great resources of NYC, accessible by subway, bus or in groups by taxi.</p>
<p>I always wonder how anybody without spending money can enjoy themselves there, however. The school emphasizes that students who come should know how to organize themselves. Nobody mops up after you. It's a big city. This might also account for its bright and capable student body. </p>
<p>If you love NYC but aren't sure about NYU, just realize that the city isn't going away and you can try to score your first job there after graduation. Just separate out NYU from NYC long enough to make a serious application to the UNIVERSITY!</p>
<p>Or apply to Columbia. They have a campus, and a rather gorgeous one at that.</p>
<p>Chyeah,</p>
<p>You simply do not know what you are talking about when referring to CAS "as 2nd or even 3rd tier at best". The CAS philosophy department has for years been ranked as No. 1 in the country, visit The</a> Philosophical Gourmet Report 2006 - 2008 : Welcome, the math department (Courant Institute) is among top ~five in the US (depending on specialty), economics is in top ~ten, and so is politics. Psychology, sociology, anthropology, English, French, and a number of other departments are highly ranked as well, with outstanding faculty.</p>
<p>well NYU is no doubt an excellent university. it was my first preference but it didn't have a strong fin aid program.too bad. and oh! rankings never give you the full picture.</p>
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The NRC ranks those departments as #17, #56, #34, #21, #13, #20, and #12, respectively. </p>
<p>If you're going to cite the Philosophical Gourmet, you might as well cite the caveat as well.
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<p>warblersrule86,</p>
<p>To paraphrase you, if you cite NRC data you might as well say that they are from ~1995. It's 2007 now. NYU has done a great deal of top-faculty hiring since then across the board, and as a result, all these departments have moved up significantly in all kinds of rankings.</p>
<p>As for the philosophy ranking, well, the caveat you were so quick to cite applies to ANY ranking of ANY department. ALL national rankings of ALL departments are based on their research reputation and quality (as measured by number of papers, amount of external funding, awards, honors, etc.). </p>
<p>There are no "undergraduate" rankings of departments, philosophy or others, for very good reason: what criteria would one use to measure the "undergraduate" departmental quality, as opposed to "graduate"?</p>
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True. New rankings are due early next year.
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Again, very true. I've been keeping my eye on the brand new Ancient World institute.</p>
<p>Rankings aren't everything. Though, I still like USC over NYU because USC is better about giving financial aid. I think NYU's financial aid kind of sucks. I always figured USC had a higer ranking than NYU because USC is more selective and has a lower admission rate.</p>