<p>Nobody drives in NYC. The roads are too crowded.</p>
<p>Roads are crowded in suburban cities, too, but that doesn't stop people from driving. NYC just has good transit, and everything is within walking distance.</p>
<p>Nor Cal kicks butt.</p>
<p>runningncircles I am afraid you have missed the humor in that post.</p>
<p>I have. I take my study of freeways and urban areas too seriously I guess. Sorry about that...</p>
<p>You should have seen our post on highways a while back. What happened to that, Circles?</p>
<p>I know how you feel runningncircles. (Riverside doesn't seem 'glamorous' enough to get a show though.) Southern California is overhyped mass of suburbia and highways. The housing development has gone out of control- especially in San Diego. Some of the companies like Pardee are getting way too greedy. They've even gone to the lengths to disguising a project as ways of preserving the environment (a lie). Someone wrote a good book about suburban sprawl (I found out about it on the news), but I feel too sick of it to read. </p>
<p>As for the OC, etc. anyone who watches those shows have thrown their brains to the dogs.</p>
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lol...well I live in metro Atlanta (Stone Mountain) and I haven't experienced much crime...and you're right about the whole housing situation lol...even though I live in a pretty nice area...we have several subdivisions up the street with mansions/estates costing $500k-$1million (I know that's nothing compared to other states but homes are cheap here)...and they're building MORE...</p>
<p>Yep, a hell of a lot of infill housing in your area (DeKalb). I live on the west side in Cobb (the southern part, not the nice part). I see $500K townhomes going up in Vinings all the friggin time. And, OMG. It has gotten soooo crowded here, traffic worse... they want to WIDEN 75 again! To, get this, "no less than 20 lanes throughout the county," and "no less than 12 lanes on 575 into Cherokee County." Yes, that'll fix the problem. Especially when developers see the expanded freeway access and build more crap and cause more traffic. And, they're considering making parts of Dallas Hwy limited access to provide freeway access to Paulding. My goodness!</p>
<p>Yeah, um... An average-sized house with very little property sitting next to a pond can cost well over a million in my home town.</p>
<p>Same here in certain places, PorSK. Mainly in in-town areas, and for suburban areas: East Cobb, North Fulton, and some parts of North Gwinnett. You get an eighth of an acre and this huge McMansion for like 4 mil. It's ugly! It's only because of the school districts.</p>
<p>rotaries? roundabouts?</p>
<p>those exist in PA and NJ. but i never heard them called those names.</p>
<p>Santa Monica and Marina Del Rey are my favorite places in the world.</p>
<p>I live in So cal. I hate it. Don't let those a-holes in the media fool you. It is trash down here, especially in LA. </p>
<p>and it is getting waaaayy too crowded. I can't see myself living here once i get settled after school.</p>
<p>I used to live in SoCal. I LOVE IT.</p>
<p>That's saying a lot, considering I've lived in a ton of places: rural Arkansas, urban northeast, suburban Orlando, plains of Oklahoma, NorCal...</p>
<p>Los Angeles and the Orange County = I lived in both. I love both.</p>
<p>LA is very dirty. I'm used to it; I'm always so surprised when tourists find out how unglamorously dirty it is.</p>
<p>Now, Orlando is one cleaaaaaaaaaan place. Moving from LA to Orlando was like swimming in algae-encrusted mud versus swimming in a pool with purified water.</p>
<p>LOL. LA is dirty. But, I can't say much about another city being dirty. It's gotten dirty here (highways, the air, the water are all polluted/littered). But, it's not as dirty as Los Angeles County. <em>shudders at the thought</em></p>
<p>the San Francisco Bay Area is much better than Socal.</p>
<p>it's okay in southern california, it's dirty but fun. Scary at nite though especially down town. I used to live in East L.A one crazy place to grow up in but fun. I love it, you can go any where . I live 30 min away from hollywood, concerts, signing, etc. it's fun. i like it will i live here forever i don't know but there's allot here</p>
<p>The OC, the TV show, is terrible, and so cal as a whole has great and terrible aspects, one terrible one being traffic. Another coming so cal feature- David Lynch's Inland Empire, about, you guessed it, the Inland Empire.</p>
<p>I'm from Norcal, and I've lived in the capitol all my life. My grandparents live in Ventura (near Santa Barbara) and my dad grew up in Burbank (place with a lot of soundstages). I enjoy visiting my grandparents because they have a condo on the boardwalk, but applied to NO Socal schools and would never live there. For one, I dislike the architecture, and the foliage. (Aesthetics are very important to me when considering surroundings) Then again, it's not even really a Norcal bias, I want to leave California altogether. The parts I like (mountains up North, Tahoe) are not really places I would want to live full time, they just have my favorite weather (more temperate than where I'm from)</p>