October 2011 Post-ACT Test discussion

<p>Yeah, they just look for things like thesis, concession, refutation, personal anecdote, 5 paragraph structure, vocab.</p>

<p>they’re not gonna get through thousands and thousands of tests any other way</p>

<p>wow, wish I knew that. </p>

<p>oh well, standardized test essays are irrelevant to adcoms if you can craft a good admissions essay.</p>

<p>above an 8 is basically fine anywhere.</p>

<p>There’s no denying a good essay helps but you’re never getting into hypsm with bad SAT/ACT scores</p>

<p>yeah the personal statement is much more important. I always think that it is funny there is even an essay for these tests. My skills are supposed to be assessed through a 25 minute writing about something completely mundane and ridiculous like teenage credit cards or teenage caffeine consumption?</p>

<p>It worries me that everyone is saying science was easiest… I had a lot of trouble with the passages since they were more difficult than my practices, ran out of time on both math and science, but my english and reading were great.</p>

<p>for the science one, the arguing scientists was my last passage and I didn’t have enough time for it and it was a thinking one… basically, I didn’t get through it. and the science has a big curve. :/</p>

<p>I put .50 lower erggg</p>

<p>I didn’t write anything down have pretty good short-term memory so lets see.</p>

<p>English</p>

<ol>
<li><p>With the passage about the the Harlem Renaissance, where did you guys divide the paragraph? At the word Challenge when the author describes how Dorothy West changed her original approach by using both established and fresh voices? </p></li>
<li><p>With the passage about the Mets Museum, (I’m good at the English section and I thought this passage was pretty tricky because you had to go back to one of them because of the screwed up paragraph order) what did you guys put for the beginning of like the 4th paragraph which starts something like “Visitors can not …” I put no change because once you reorganized the paragraphs (paragraph 5 was actually suppose to be the second paragraph), the original answer became the most logical transition. Agreed?</p></li>
<li><p>there is no need for a colon following the word includes even when there is a list following it. yes?</p></li>
<li><p>There was a problem that was something like “there are many categories such as glass, wood, etc.” I would have picked no punctuation in that sentence at all but that was not an option. The best option seemed to be a comma after categories so there would be a natural pause in the reading. Yes?</p></li>
</ol>

<p>Math - I messed up pretty bad on this</p>

<ol>
<li><p>It seems that it has been established already that the answer was 2048 for the t64 dots question. I couldn’t remember the formula for geometric sequences - I reviewed arithmetic sequences this morning but not geometric, oh well.</p></li>
<li><p>There was this one question, toward the beginning asking for the length of the edges of a square pyramid. The height of a triangular face was sqrt 3, and the base was 2. I put 4sqrt7 + 8 because I knew there was an 8 in there and since two options had 4sqrt7, i figured that was in the solution too. I’m certain its wrong though because I’m not sure how you can get 4sqrt7 in the answer.</p></li>
<li><p>Two cubes, one with a side length of 3, another with a length of 12. Ratio of their inner diagonals? I’m pretty sure it is 1:4 (I tried it with a 1 unit vs. 2 unit cube and it is much easier to see that the ratio of the diagonals is the same as the ratio of the side lengths.)</p></li>
<li><p>With the ellipse one, I wasn’t sure but I knew certain things that had to be true. Ellipse occur when the (x-4) and (y-8) are added and have denominators, and I think the part following the equal sign has to be 1. Only one option fulfilled those constraints. It was something like (x-4)/16 + (y-8)/4= 1. </p></li>
<li><p>I said that the sum of the angles formed when there was a right angle and an arc was 90. I don’t know why I felt that but something about 2x and x, x being 90. Actually, I don’t know why I picked 90 but the only other possible option was 45 (since it didn’t have number except a right angle, I think there were only 2 viable options.</p></li>
<li><p>There was a problem about someone traveling from city 1 to city 2 to city 3 to city 1. It said that from 1 to 2 was 80 miles and then gave the ratio from each city to the next of 5:4:3 (or maybe it was 5:4:2). Regardless, the ratio numbers added up to 11 and so I set up a proportion of 5 (from city 1 to 2) over 80 equals 11 over x. I got 176.</p></li>
<li><p>There was a problem that talked about triangle ABC. It said like one angle was 32 another was 43. The length opposite to the third angle (which would be 105 in this case) would be the longest; that length was AB. That length had to be the longest, longer than the other two. Interestingly, both of those options were present, that is, something like AB > BC and AB > BA/CA (one of those). I picked the one that the longest side (opposite to the largest angle) was bigger than the smallest side (opposite the 32 degree angle.) I wasn’t sure about this though.</p></li>
</ol>

<p>Reading</p>

<ol>
<li><p>What was the violin girl, Alle-something, attitude towards softball ending and violin ‘season’ beginning, accepting toward the first and ready to enjoy toward the second?</p></li>
<li><p>What was the aforementioned girl’s relationship with her teacher? Her teacher expected a lot and she tried her best, right?</p></li>
<li><p>Why did that researcher, Murphy?, study the foxes? To see how they adapt? The only other viable option was how thier genetics helps them live in urban environments but I don’t think that was it because 1, the other researcher studied the genetics, behavioral, etc stuff, and if it was him, then it would have mentioned all of those different studies.</p></li>
</ol>

<p>Science</p>

<ol>
<li><p>It seems that it has been established that the answer about the concrete foam and stuff was .5 less. I put 1.0 less, not sure, couldn’t figure it out between the two less options.</p></li>
<li><p>When was the pH neutral, like 19-21, right? (It seemed like it was ONLY 20 but that the only option)</p></li>
<li><p>What did you guys put for the pyruvic acid and why the student was incorrect. P acid’s pk or whatever was 2.5, and regardless if you looked at the equivalence point or the half way point, both were higher (one was 10, other was 20). the answer was between P acid’s pk value is LESS than 1) the equivalence point value or something or 2) the pH value. It was the last question I came to and I couldn’t think too much at this point.</p></li>
<li><p>The last question for the different views passage, the answer for it was Student 2 and 3, right? Because they were saying the polarity mattered when determining if a solute would dissolve in a solvent. The problem mentioned like 330 and 78 mu (I think that was the unit) but it didn’t seem relevant. </p></li>
</ol>

<p>Phew. I think I’ll remember some more through out the day. </p>

<p>What did you guys get for the above questions?</p>

<p>P.S. All these are based on form 71A.</p>

<p>I did okay on the sections other than science. I’m just hoping for a 29 or so; I really don’t want to take it again in December. Anyone know if these score reports will arrive to schools with a 11/15 deadline?</p>

<p>The ball would bounce .5 HIGHER on concrete than on foam. The last question for differing views’ answer was Student 1 Only, because it asked whom did it disprove, not support. Murphy studied the foxes to see how they adapted/survived in the area, idr exact wording. It had survival in it I think though. The answer to T64 was 2,080. It’s 64 + 63 + 62+ 61 +… 2 + 1 = 2,080. The sum of the two angles was 45 degrees, and I got for the sum of the edges of the square pyramid was 16, can anyone confirm? I confirm all other answers I didn’t mention in your previous post.</p>

<p>On English!</p>

<ol>
<li><p>something, such as bla, bla, bla
Comma before such us correct?</p></li>
<li><p>The magazine title in italics, did we have to put a colon before that? I think not…</p></li>
</ol>

<p>^ I didn’t, but I’m not sure. I stared at that one for a bit, lol.</p>

<p>GOOD GOD
MATH
IT ACTUALLY KILLED ME
I LITERALLY DIED</p>

<p>[slight hyperbole]
But actually. Math was horrifying. I got a 30 on a practice math section I took yesterday… lol no. My highest math score is a 29. And that will remain my highest math score. </p>

<p>Science wasn’t that bad though.
English and reading probably 36’s, even though my essay was lolzy. Colleges don’t really look at the essay much anyway. And I already have two 12’s for the ACT essay.</p>

<p>I didn’t put a colon. I did put the comma before such as too.</p>

<p>Neuroscience, here is what I remember:</p>

<p>I didn’t write anything down have pretty good short-term memory so lets see.</p>

<p>English</p>

<ol>
<li>there is no need for a colon following the word includes even when there is a list following it. yes?</li>
</ol>

<p>I agree with that, but I too was unsure while testing. </p>

<ol>
<li>There was a problem that was something like “there are many categories such as glass, wood, etc.” I would have picked no punctuation in that sentence at all but that was not an option. The best option seemed to be a comma after categories so there would be a natural pause in the reading. Yes?</li>
</ol>

<p>I think I put the same answer, but I’m not sure. </p>

<ol>
<li>It seems that it has been established already that the answer was 2048 for the t64 dots question. I couldn’t remember the formula for geometric sequences - I reviewed arithmetic sequences this morning but not geometric, oh well.</li>
</ol>

<p>I’m about 99.9% sure the answer was 2080. I put the x and y (number in sequence, number of dots) values in my calculator, did a quadratic regression, and got 2080 when I plugged in 64.</p>

<ol>
<li>There was this one question, toward the beginning asking for the length of the edges of a square pyramid. The height of a triangular face was sqrt 3, and the base was 2. I put 4sqrt7 + 8 because I knew there was an 8 in there and since two options had 4sqrt7, i figured that was in the solution too. I’m certain its wrong though because I’m not sure how you can get 4sqrt7 in the answer.</li>
</ol>

<p>I think the answer was 16. I believe the hypotenuse of each triangle was 2. Also, the edge length of the bottom cube was 2, and the triangle was equilateral. 8 edges x 2 =16.</p>

<ol>
<li>Two cubes, one with a side length of 3, another with a length of 12. Ratio of their inner diagonals? I’m pretty sure it is 1:4 (I tried it with a 1 unit vs. 2 unit cube and it is much easier to see that the ratio of the diagonals is the same as the ratio of the side lengths.)</li>
</ol>

<p>It was 1:4.</p>

<ol>
<li>With the ellipse one, I wasn’t sure but I knew certain things that had to be true. Ellipse occur when the (x-4) and (y-8) are added and have denominators, and I think the part following the equal sign has to be 1. Only one option fulfilled those constraints. It was something like (x-4)/16 + (y-8)/4= 1. </li>
</ol>

<p>You are correct!</p>

<ol>
<li>There was a problem that talked about triangle ABC. It said like one angle was 32 another was 43. The length opposite to the third angle (which would be 105 in this case) would be the longest; that length was AB. That length had to be the longest, longer than the other two. Interestingly, both of those options were present, that is, something like AB > BC and AB > BA/CA (one of those). I picked the one that the longest side (opposite to the largest angle) was bigger than the smallest side (opposite the 32 degree angle.) I wasn’t sure about this though.</li>
</ol>

<p>Your reasoning is correct, but I don’t remember the actual answer. </p>

<p>Reading</p>

<ol>
<li>What was the violin girl, Alle-something, attitude towards softball ending and violin ‘season’ beginning, accepting toward the first and ready to enjoy toward the second?</li>
</ol>

<p>I put that. In the passage it said something similar to the girl enjoying playing the violin over the summer, and then it talked about her practicing in the morning. </p>

<ol>
<li>What was the aforementioned girl’s relationship with her teacher? Her teacher expected a lot and she tried her best, right?</li>
</ol>

<p>I put that too, but I was unsure. </p>

<p>Science</p>

<ol>
<li>When was the pH neutral, like 19-21, right? (It seemed like it was ONLY 20 but that the only option)</li>
</ol>

<p>Yep!</p>

<ol>
<li>The last question for the different views passage, the answer for it was Student 2 and 3, right? Because they were saying the polarity mattered when determining if a solute would dissolve in a solvent. The problem mentioned like 330 and 78 mu (I think that was the unit) but it didn’t seem relevant. </li>
</ol>

<p>I believe the answer was student 1 only. Student 1 claimed that substance A will dissolve in substance B if substance B has a larger atomic mass (the unit for atomic mass is amu, or atomic mass unites). The question stated that the substance with 330 amus dissolved in the substance with 78 amus, which is the opposite of his claim.</p>

<p>the edges of the square pyramid question was 16, it was like 2 each edge and 8 edges</p>

<p>So this was my first time taking the ACT (high school junior), and it sucked.</p>

<p>English: Easy. Highest section by far. Not much I had to guess on.</p>

<p>Math: Terrible. It’s my best and favorite subject in school and I didn’t know what half of it was talking about. Which really surprised me. It seemed like a lot of it was higher level math that I haven’t even studied before (trig, maybe?) Guessed on quite a few of them.</p>

<p>Reading: Even more terrible. The time limit stressed me out much like I thought it would. So at least I wasn’t shocked. Ran out of time so I guessed on a LOT. </p>

<p>Science: Hey, it actually wasn’t too bad. The practice tests I’ve done were a lot harder. But still didn’t do too well.</p>

<p>I’m trying to keep in perspective that it’s my first time and the math part was just way over my head. Reading comprehension can be improved with practice and need to work on adapting to the time. Still sucks though that most of the ones I made educated guesses on have turned out to be wrong (by looking at some of the responses here).</p>

<p>Oh well, I can literally take it 11 more times (in theory, God I don’t want to) if I really need to.</p>

<p>So I’m guessing I got around low 20’s. Sucks, but hey, maybe I’ll be more prepared next time.</p>

<p>P.S. Form 71A.</p>

<p>@nina1228</p>

<p>My composite last time was 33.</p>