**October 2015 International SAT**

@SopheliaSavvy that moderator post looked more like a formality, possibly to avoid lawsuits…

@Malcomx99 Yeah, I had 5 no errors’s too. YES, THERE;S HOPE!!!

Do you guys remember one of the writing questions from section 10 cause I’m pretty sure I messed up. This is roughly the question:

XXX wants to debate education reforms in Britain, (supporting her arguments with information from the US, Finland, Australia and Germany.)

I forgot the exact details but the question was asking whether the bracketed part needs changing. I changed it to (and supporting her arguments…) Did anybody else do that? Or am I just completely wrong hahaha

@Melburn I left it like that. I felt like I was rushing through the last section (ugh, now I regret it), but the original sentence did sound correct to me (it still does).

@Malcomx99 What does that have anything to do with the Martha question?

@ypmagic @Starior I’m with Starior on that one.

@Melburn The original sentence was correct. I think.

Controversial CR Questions:
1-Sabura temple from busy street: contrast, spirituality,uncut deference
2-Sabura father’s speech flows like water through net: father’s eloquence, indifference to his father
3-expedient shortsighted or ingrained untenable
4-volume of information or detail or synthesize
5-advertisement passage purpose of first sentence: inevitable fact, introduce key ideas
6-divisive-useful or difficult-worthwhile
7-creativity passage what do examples in the paragraph emphasize: great artists ordinarily get recognized after their death, one person can be creative without his creativity being recognized during his lifetime, villified by one generation and appraised by another

What are your thoughts?

Ah nuts. Such minerals as really was correct. Well, at least this test Writing curve was reportedly not bad.

  1. spirituality. Not sure though.
  2. Father’s eloquence.
  3. ingrained and untenable.
  4. volume of info.
  5. incontestable fact.
  6. difficult and worthwhile.
  7. get recognized after their deaths.

@Synonyms I think ‘such minerals as’ was incorrect… It should’ve been minerals such as.

  1. deference
  2. indifference
  3. ingrained and untenable
  4. volume of info.
  5. incontestable fact
  6. difficult and worthwhile
  7. vilified by one generation and appraised by another

My answers:

  1. Undercut with deference (contrast seems reasonable, but too obvious; spirituality might take the critical thinking too far though, I don't think this passage concerns spirituality, regardless of how rigid and conservative the father seems)
  2. Inattentiveness to his father (I really didn't read the other options, this answer was exactly how I understood that part in the passage)
  3. Ingrained/untenable (I already gave my explanation: the belief is taken for granted by people, so it is ingrained; however, it can be refuted by the Spain example, so it's untenable)
  4. Volume of information (some people seem to have overthought this question, and they could be right; but I sincerely think ETS wouldn't include such a tricky question as people believe this one to be)
  5. Inevitable fact (hmm, the first sentence didn't seem to be the key idea to me, so I went with this)
  6. Divisive/useful (there are two opposing opinions about the definition of creative, thus the "divisive" answer; and the author also says that Csikszentmihalyi (just googled his name lol) contributed a lot to the debate, so defining creativity is "useful")
  7. Not recognized when they are productive (among the three options that people discuss, this seems legitimate; there's one that's too extreme ("vilified"), and there's one that seems like an unreasonable over-generalization.

WAIT. I’ve just remembered why I thought such minerals as was wrong. Such minerals as by itself wasn’t wrong, per se (a quick search on google can tell you that). It’s just that the phrase as it was violated the parallel structure. The whole phrase was “[…] both noun and such minerals as […]”. The both noun and noun was violated, so D was still wrong even though such noun as is usually acceptable!

@Synonyms Do you remember the full sentence? I can’t recollect what I chose for that. “Such minerals as” (the phrase) is correct - I’ve done some examples with that in the Blue Book.

@SopheliaSavvy Eh, I don’t remember the whole sentence, just the last part of it. As I said before, “such noun as” is usually correct. However, in this specific instance, it violated the parallel structure of “both noun and noun”, so it was wrong. Unless you can show me one example in the Blue Book that states that “both noun and such noun as” is correct. Eh, let’s just say that I don’t have the Blue Book and leave it at that.

What do you think -2 on MC and 11 on essay will be for writing?

Also, if anyone can tell me the answer to the Martha question, that would be great.

@Synonyms Wait, no. I mean “such minerals as” is correct. I don’t even remember what D was to begin with so I’m not saying that you’re wrong.

@NParker Given the tentative curve, I’d say that’s a safe 770, but it could be up there at 790-800 too.

@Synonyms What was the Martha question?

There are 36 students in the class. Teacher lined them up into 5 rows. What are the chances that Martha will be in the last row?

2/9^