<p>By the way, whsswim, if you don't get in, we may as well all throw in the towel! Honestly, you have got it all. Can't imagine you wouldn't get in...and get in EA, to boot... Good luck!</p>
<p>Essays: About how I developed my passion for sportswriting</p>
<p>-thats awesome
ya i agree with DD... if u dont get in.... il be incredibly surprised</p>
<p>DD- "It's the 30's and the 1300's who are on the margins. In case of a tie in that pool, legacy gets the edge."</p>
<p>see... thats my pool...... and legacy affects me the most..... now i understand the family and stuff.... and IF i get into Notre dame... theres no other college i would want my kids to go that ND.... so I get that......</p>
<p>but being a non-legacy with no apparent hooks.... you can see the frustration whe I learn about legacys taking spots over equally as achieving if not "better" reg students..........I dont know... it seems like im already at a disadvantage before I even apply..... is that understandable?</p>
<p>It's understandable, chillin, as is the university's view... Thing is, I don't think that's going to change...</p>
<p>Honestly, chillin, I don't know how you think "that's your pool" when you are a junior and haven't even gotten to second semester yet. You have lots and lots of chances to take the SAT and/or ACT and nail it down... Let's see, between your age and my daughter's, a year older, I've written FOUR checks to the ACT company... That's plenty of chances to get it up there! I know you can...</p>
<p>Second of all, you have a hook. You are an amazingly insightful kid for being just a junior in high school. That's what your essay needs to convey when you write it next year, and that's what your rec letters need to convey when you have them written... I've seen lots of your posts, and seen you hold your own with me, when I can be pretty darned tenacious in a debate--and I'm a LOT older than you... Don't sell yourself short!</p>
<p>Have you ever seen one of those weird 3-D hidden picture puzzles? To most people who look at them, particularly at first, they look like squiggly, nonsensical patterns. But if you kind of let your focus blur and see beyond the lines, some people can see these amazing imges...while everybody else just sees the squiggly lines. As it happens, I always sucked at those--my mother-in-law could see the hidden picture right away every time.</p>
<p>But I am convinced that life is that way as well. Some people see the same vision of life as nearly everyone else, but there are a few exceptional people who can see beyond that--just like some people can see beyond the squiggly lines and patterns to see the images in those 3-D puzzles. You strike me very much, chillin, as one of those people who can see that nth dimension in life. That IS a hook. </p>
<p>Because in the end run, the future of our society and the future of our church is not driven by the 1600/36/4.0 overachievers, but by the people who have the vision to see beyond what most others see. Yes, there are those among the 1600/36/4.0's who are also the people of vision, but not exclusively so. Embrace that angle, chillin, and you have half the battle won...</p>
<p>Because in the end run, the future of our society and the future of our church is not driven by the 1600/36/4.0 overachievers, but by the people who have the vision to see beyond what most others see</p>
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<li>Thats awesome... I def agree</li>
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<p>bleh, whenever i think about it i get all tense</p>
<p>i cant wait</p>
<p>also, my friends dad is high up in admissions, so i might be able to find out when they mail the letters</p>
<p>oooooo... inside connection......</p>
<p>people would pay for info like that..... lol</p>
<p>ha, i wish</p>
<p>i doubt it really will help my app too much, but it is nice to know people in high places</p>
<p>Knowing people in high enough places to know when the letters get mailed out is more than most of the rest of us!--and something the rest of us will, no doubt, appreciate to know! :)</p>
<p>What "extra" essay were you talking about? Just want to make sure my daughter didn't miss anything...</p>
<p>on the last page, there's a "is there anything else you want us to know" question.. it's optional, so if she didn't put anything it's not a big deal</p>
<p>I want to be in on this too! I applied to Notre Dame for Early Action!</p>
<p>I applied Early Action as well...Kind of late, but was it not a great idea for me to apply early? I got a 1480/1600 on the SATS, with a couple additional SAT 2s, 720 being the lowest. My GPA isn't spectactular though, its around 3.7 unweighted, but it is brought down mainly by Bs freshman and sophomore year. Extracurriculars are fine, and I thought the essay was pretty solid. No idea how the teacher or counseler reccomendations are though, not allowed to read them. Thanks.</p>
<p>i think you were fine applying early and have as good of a shot as the rest of us...i'm just so nervous for next week!!</p>
<p>We need to keep in good touch with fjoekjui, so we know when those letters get put in the mail! We used to have a great mail carrier, but she retired. We now get mail intended not only for our neighbors, but people who live on a completely different street with a completely different street number, too. My daughter got an e-mail from a St. Louis U scholarship committee, congratulating her on her acceptance, and giving instructions on the next steps to seek scholarships--interestingly enough, we never got the original acceptance letter... </p>
<p>So we have an extra special interest in knowing when they are mailed, because I could practically walk from South Bend to my house before our mail carrier actually gets it delivered!</p>
<p>Hey, I'm from California and I applied early action to Notre Dame. The University of Notre Dame is the best around, and I hope to God I get in.
Here are some of my stats:</p>
<p>Rank: 4/246 [top 2%]</p>
<p>GPA: 4.4 [overall]</p>
<p>SAT I: 1280 [best score]</p>
<p>SAT II: 670 US History, 620 Math II</p>
<p>Legacy: Double Legacy [grandfather, father]</p>
<p>AP Classes: 13 [total], AP Scholar Award</p>
<p>Awards: Basically in almost every subject [end-of-year ceremonies]</p>
<p>Personal Statement: I think it is pretty good.</p>
<p>Community Service: Loads of it (200+ hrs.)</p>
<p>Sports: Varsity Tennis (4 yrs) [#1 Doubles Team]</p>
<p>Activities: President of NHS / CSF [2 years, member for 4 years], ASB Vice President, Class Office / Student Council [10, 11, 12 grades], President of Ping Pong Club, President of Bocce Ball Club, Prom Committee, Homecoming Committee, etc. Too many to list.</p>
<p>What do you guys think? I know the SAT is low, and that has me worried.
Thanks.</p>
<p>Thanks, WHSSwim. I am familiar with that section. I find it frustrating though, that once we submit the application we cannot go back and view it. (of course, it was oversight on our part to not just save it as we went along!) So, I do not recall what if anything, was written there. Oh well.</p>
<p>lol i understand that one... I wrote that right into the box and forgot to save it, so I'll never know exactly what I wrote.</p>
<p>And Fin, I'd say you've got a good chance... I think you make up for the SAT w/ all your extracurriculars & AP's</p>
<p>malibu maxwell and finbar you are add tot he prayer list entitiled DEc 12 Feast fo Our Lady....</p>
<p>Thanks, I appreciate anything which could potentially make the difference.</p>
<p>ya.... I hope colleges look at the upward trend thing too</p>