***Official Emory 2021 EDII Results ONLY Thread***

Hey guys, I’ve seen this thread created for other schools and thought it’d be helpful for future students applying to Emory EDII to see the type of applications that get accepted, rejected, and deferred (however, of course, there is much more than what is simply written below that can impact admissions decisions!) To those who were accepted, congratulations. To those deferred, remember that you still have another chance. To those rejected, there’s another place that will work out for you just around the corner. Please be sure to provide as much relevant detail as possible! Thank you and good luck to all.

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Pick one:
Decision: Accepted
Decision: Deferred
Decision: Rejected

Pick one:
Emory College of Arts and Sciences
Oxford College

Objective:

SAT I (breakdown):
ACT:
SAT II:
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0):
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable):
AP (place score in parenthesis):
IB (place score in parenthesis):
Senior Year Course Load:
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.):

Subjective:

Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis):
Job/Work Experience:
Volunteer/Community service:
Summer Activities:
Essays:
Teacher Recommendation:
Counselor Rec:
Additional Rec:
Interview:

Other

State (if domestic applicant):
Country (if international applicant):
Intended major(s):
School Type:
Ethnicity:
Gender:
Income Bracket:
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.):

Reflection

Strengths:
Weaknesses:
Why you think you were accepted/deferred/rejected:

General Comments:
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Decision-Accepted

Emory College of Arts and Sciences

SAT I : M- 730 ( 95th percentile); ERW- 690(92nd percentile) roughly like a 1370/1600 or 2020/2400 on Old SAT
SAT II: Biology E- 710 (77th Percentile), Chemistry-710 (56th)
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.9 ( 3.8-.3.85 for core-courseload)
Rank: 70/476 (at time of transcript)
AP: English Writing and Comp.-3
IB: Latin SL-4
( took dual-credit courses for social studies)
Senior Year Course Load: Calculus BC AP; Health Science Technology Level 2 ( Medical Assistant Training), Pre-AP Physics, English 4 AP, Medical Microbiology, and Human A&P ( Honors).
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): I guess ranking 1st in Texas Area 1 Medical Terminology Online Test for HOSA.

Subjective:

Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): National Member of HOSA, Latin Club

Job Experience: N/A

Volunteer/Community service: About 30 hrs. of work with my dad’s fraternity and a Catholic food drive/

Essays: Made a very personal one regarding the effects of me switching schools and moving a lot ( Lived in FL, PA, and TX. Switched elementary schools 3 times, and moved when I transitioned into both middle school and high school. Structure wasn’t the best but the content really communicated who I was.

Teacher Recommendation: Great 8-9/10
Counselor Rec: Great 8-9/10
Additional Rec: N/A
Interview: N/A

Other

State: Texas

Intended major(s): Pre-med, Biology, Chemistry.
School Type: Public
Ethnicity: African American
Gender: Male
Income Bracket: 200k
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): URM

Reflection

Strengths: Commitment to medical field ( currently training to be a CCMA so before I go off to med school, I’ll have plenty of hands-on experience with the ‘‘grunt work’’ and presence in healthcare field), I know how to build a good rapport with teachers ( hence my stellar recs) I plan to keep that up in college.

Weaknesses: Lack of EC’s, Test scores are pretty average, my class rank isn’t that great either (combination of some my freshman courses from an OOS school losing their ‘‘weighted’’ value; my medical electives counting against my weighted core-classes and my rapidly shrinking class size. We use to have 538 at the start of junior year and we’re currently down to 447.)
Why you think you were accepted?
I would say my recommendations, essay, and CCMA training helped me stand out. My scores and grades while not great, didn’t hurt me as they were well within the standard range of enrolled students. I also guess academically I might’ve been competitive among URMs.

General Comments:
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Decision: Accepted
Oxford College

Objective:

SAT I (breakdown): 1430 (750 Reading, 680 Math)
ACT (breakdown): 32 (35 English, 30 Math, 34 Reading, 30 Science)
SAT II (place score in parentheses): 710 US History, 670 Spanish
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.81
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 44/685
AP (place score in parentheses): AP Human Geography (4), AP World History (3), AP Computer Science A (3), AP Physics 2 (2), AP Calculus AB (5), AP Spanish (5), AP US History (4)
IB (place score in parentheses): Not offered
Senior Year Course Load: AP Psychology, AP American Government, AP Macroeconomics, AP Chemistry, AP Statistics, AP Biology, AP English Literature/Language
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): AP scholar with distinction; 2nd place at regional science fair

Subjective:

Extracurriculars (place leadership in parentheses): Senior council (President); National honor society (Treasurer); Youth board of drug/alcohol awareness nonprofit (Secretary); Science national honor society (Communications); Spanish honor society; Yearlong youth leadership program with my city; Member of my high school’s leadership team; Mentor of my school’s chapter of the CFA leader academy; Accepted into & participated in a summer youth leadership camp at Berry College
Job/Work Experience: Completed a summer volunteer program at Emory for 2 consecutive summers
Volunteer/Community Service: Other than being a part of the usual organizations [beta club, key club, etc.], I helped teach computer skills to disabled kids sophomore year and volunteered at the local library for a few months.
Essay: I wrote about how I have grown up - moving to the suburbs on a low income, experiencing a parent’s death to cancer, and moving schools twice - and how I used my experiences to challenge myself. My language arts teacher, counselor, and peer all praised it.
Recommendations: APUSH teacher (very close); 11th grade AP lit/lang teacher (liked my classroom discussions); supervisor from my city’s youth leadership program (said I was very outspoken)
Counselor Rec: Should be pretty good - I talk to my counselor frequently and she speaks highly of my drive and personality.
Additional Info: Elected senior class president
Interview: N/A

Other

State (if domestic applicant): Georgia
Country (if international applicant): N/A
Projected Concentration: Undecided [Pre-Med]
School Type: Large, competitive public school
Ethnicity: Asian (Indian)
Gender: Male
Income Bracket: Lower middle class
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): First generation to attend college in the US

Reflection

Strengths: Rec letters, essay, and course load
Weaknesses: Probably things like GPA, rank, or other factors
Why you think you were accepted/deferred/rejected: I’m honestly unsure as I really did not expect this! I had a very interesting story and tried to be myself as much as possible in the app. And to future applicants, know that stats are NOT everything and a college can see a certain potential in you. I’m just so grateful for the opportunity.

Thank you in advance for the feedback!

General Comments: None

@Callmejoe3 : Congratulations: You are competitive…period, not among URMs. The old SAT score is the Emory enrolled average for example. As far as creating a rapport with teachers in college, much trickier, but as a pre-health, target the lecture track faculty that have time for mentoring and try not to act “too pre-med”. Basically convince them that you enjoy learning, do not grade grub or appear strangely aggressive to the point where it appears obvious you are more so desperate for the grade. To gain favor of STEM teachers as anyone, especially a pre-health, you have to go about things a bit delicately. In their heads, the question would end up being “what separates you from the other students with good grades in the class?” and many will look at a substantial amount of A students with cynicism (some will wonder if for example, sophomore and junior 4.0s got those by simply working hard or did they just schedule super cautiously and choose only easier instructors. They will lesser so like the latter and care less about superficiality versus what you have actually done and whether you strive to reach your true potential versus just going through motions).

I would also consider using AP credit/HS background strength to advance forward more quickly (I make this suggestion to everyone, but it is so hard to sell it to URMs specifically at Emory) despite the overwhelming advice (this will sometimes come from pHMO, and your peers, especially URMs…figure out for yourself, do not be pressured into taking the average route. Freshman year allows you to take the most risks as things like medical school watch trends. You want a challenging but doable freshman year. Trying to cruise can come back to bite later if your work ethic and drive decreases as a result) to just “restart”. It has benefits that are difficult to see at the beginning such as quicker degree completion (definitely a need for chemistry which has many requirements and only offers some in specific semesters) and usually a freshman in a class that is a step higher will get more mentoring and respect from the instructor running it. You also learn how to think differently and/or work harder earlier in your career provided you take more challenging instructors. It pays off because you will often cruise (or at very least, adjust well to) in upper-level courses everyone else is worried about. In addition, it is generally found that most retaking the AP STEM equivalent at Emory end up with a similar grade to what they would have likely gotten in the advanced course, so it ends up a huge waste of time.

As for being pre-med, I also advise keeping an open-mind :wink: not because it is hard, but because you may actually like science, and believe it or not, there are many other things (even lucrative ones) that you can do with it that ultimately do involve helping others.

Decision: Accepted[/size]

Pick one:
Emory College of Arts and Sciences

Objective:

SAT I (breakdown):N/A
ACT: 34 (35 superscored)
SAT II: N/A
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.31
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): N/a
AP (place score in parenthesis): AP Human Geo (5) AP Lang (5) AP Calc AB(2) AP Physics (5) AP Lit (5) AP Environmental (5) AP Statistics (4) AP Gov (5)
IB (place score in parenthesis):N/A
Senior Year Course Load: AP Chemistry, AP Calc BC, AP World, Jewish Holocaust, English Seminar, Art, International Relations
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): AP Scholar with distinction, JCAS invite, SCJAS 1st place paper and presentation categories, AIME, Deans List, High Honor Roll

Subjective:

Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): don’t feel like listing lol
Job/Work Experience: Publix Supermarkets
Volunteer/Community service: don’t feel like listing lol
Summer Activities: Soccer
Essays: Very good, wrote about being denied from 17 schools and my post-grad year
Teacher Recommendation: Very good
Counselor Rec: Decent
Additional Rec: N/A
Interview:N/a

Other

State (if domestic applicant): N/A
Country (if international applicant): USA
Intended major(s): Finance or Pre-med
School Type: Private Boarding
Ethnicity: Indian
Gender: M
Income Bracket: N/A
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): Recruited Athlete

Reflection

Strengths: Scores, Essays, ECs
Weaknesses: GPA
Why you think you were accepted/deferred/rejected: Idk I’m pumped though

General Comments:
Always apply! You never know what can happen!

@bernie12

Thanks for the for the advice. I really try to incorporate the philosophy of wanting to ‘‘really know’’ what I’m learning instead of just vomiting out the right answers and keeping a 4.0. I often remind myself ‘‘if I don’t feel different at the end of this, I probably did something wrong.’’.I believe that my short-responses on the application where I communicated my enthusiasm for applying my growth outside of class really helped me. I also really should push myself academically at Emory; if I wanted to cruise, I shouldn’t have chosen a top 20 school.

The open mindedness part I got down, because before wanting to be a doctor, I wanted to be more of lab-based Biologist or Chemist ( my inclination toward STEM really separates me from my friends in my CCMA course). I still have that as a ‘‘Plan B’’ in case my passion to be a doctor falls short.

Now as for AP credit. One of the setbacks from transferring from my old high school was the differences in the freshman science curriculum leaving me unable to attend any of the AP science courses here. Do you think your advice regarding the use of AP credit will apply in my situation where I’m just taking the exam and not the class that would’ve been better prep for college?

@Callmejoe3 : Meh, the thing is college introductory courses tend to be completely slanted toward the exams and lab (in some cases useless). If you can 4/5 the AP biology or chemistry exam, there is literally no point of taking the introductory sequence (at least not all of it). They will cover the same material but certain instructors may just give tougher exams (non-finals, but mid-terms) than the HS instructor, but ultimately the students are being taught the same thing you are self-learning. If you were to take harder exams, better to do so while learning new material. Biology, a complete waste for someone with a 5 and they know it. Both the biology department AND the pHMO are on board with encouraging students with 4/5 AP biology to sign up for Dr. Beck’s organismal form and function course and it is rare to get pHMO squarely on board with pre-health freshmen using AP to place into an intermediate course. The thing about that one is, Beck’s class is a way to hurry up and transition from memorizing and regurgitating material in biology towards actually applying it and being able to interpret real data in the field. You will still have to take biol 142 (which is more critical thinking and problem solving oriented) so won’t miss out on key genetics preparation. In addition, Beck’s course is not hard to do well in. You can learn differently and score well easily.

This will position you to take some of the more elite upper level and intermediate biology courses which never happens for some people. Many will stick to choosing only classes that emphasize memorization because they have never left that comfort zone. You will more readily be able to say take any of Eisen’s classes, Yokoyama’s courses (ok, maybe a stretch there), Nemenman (for math folks or those who wanna learn CS), Antia(Immunology), and Orloff (Cancer biology) earlier in your career. Your biology major need not become a joke pathway (many students will for example take the following creampuff courses: developmental biology, human physiology (some do this “okay”), evolutionary, and for things like cell or microbiology, they will opt for the memorization oriented instructor if possible). Ideally, you want to learn how to think at a higher level even pursuing a biology. If a majority of your courses feel like HS, you did something wrong. Emory biology is good in that it there are more instructors that emphasize problem solving than some peer institutions. I would say these instructors run up to 50% of the upper division and intermediate courses, but this means ultimately means you have a choice. If you find the need to heavily GPA manage, I say mix it up. I am just noting that those who forfeit AP in biology and take 141 again tend to almost uniformly follow the “lazy train” through biology.

The true reason I really recommend using chem credit is so that you can take ochem with Soria or somebody and thus kind of dodge the curriculum changes that will start next year. The changes will make it more of a hassle to complete though I think I respect the concept of the changes. So that is more of a time constraint issue. If you want to optimize experience in both departments, you do not want to constantly worry about if you will get a needed chem class/when it will be offered and what other STEM courses it will need to be coupled with. In later years, it will most certainly give you an inclination to just take easier instruction when possible because you will be stretched too thin even if you take a single challenging instructor. You become more flexible by not starting with chem 141.

@bernie12

Who would you recommend for cell biology, microbiology and advanced genetics courses?

Plus, you understand that biology majors have to take a 200 level evolutionary biology type course?

Do you recommend the supervised reading course (Biology 497R)?

@BiffBrown Huh? I thought 497R was like research or an independent study. Not a real course. Yes.

Eisen, Levin (not the best teacher, but teaches it in a more relevant way focused on research and medicine…gives challenging tests but class is heavily curved so most do decently/well…he also recruits top performers to his lab…Campbell is not the best for it either), Crouse (Advanced Genetics? Not really what that course is. Yokoyama is the only to teach any advanced genetics course as far as I know. 264 is just a human genetics course) respectively. Yeah, if evolutionary biology (250), try Gerardo or Beck if teaching it otherwise just take Beck for ecology or organismal form and function…just take Beck.

I’m super excited to fill this out because I was once the one scouring the pages of CC for admissions data. Hope this helps someone out there!

Decision: Accepted

Emory College of Arts and Sciences

Objective:

SAT I (breakdown): NA
ACT: 30 composite, 31 superscored
SAT II: 730 on US History, 660 on Lit (did not send)
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.90
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): NA
AP (place score in parenthesis): 9
APUSH, APEURO, AP LANG ENGLISH, AP LANG SPANISH, AP LITERATURE SPANISH, AP CHEM, AP STAT, AP GOV, AP LITERATURE ENGLISH
IB (place score in parenthesis):
Senior Year Course Load: AP LITERATURE SPANISH, AP CHEM, AP STAT, AP GOV, AP LITERATURE ENGLISH, chorus, music theory
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): National and regional music awards

Subjective:

Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Editor-in-chief of school newspaper, outside band and choral groups, journalist for national publication, Tri-M music honor society, NHS, theatre, various school clubs (such as Model UN, Harvard Model Congress etc)
Job/Work Experience: Interned in D.C. over the summer, camp counselor
Volunteer/Community service: through clubs at school worked on various volunteer projects, but never counted or reported hours
Summer Activities: Music intensives for like 5 years lol, classes for college credit at other pre-college programs around the country, internships, summer camp counselor at a music camp!
Essays: Common App 9/10, wrote something literally no one else could write, Emory essays (10/10), although these took me about three months to write, in the end they were hilarious and witty even with the short word count (because I worked on journalism throughout HS, I felt the pressure to make my essays nearly perfect, my advice is to NOT spend as much time on your essays as I did, because ultimately your word choice for that one nagging sentence is irrelevant)
Teacher Recommendation: from my choral teacher because I am a potential music major! 10/10
Counselor Rec: 9/10, she doesn’t know me too well
Additional Rec: spanish teacher, 8/10
Interview: did not get an invite to interview
However, I did get an invitation to send music supplements which the dept head emailed me back after 20 minutes saying he liked them, so I believe that was a significant factor

Other

State (if domestic applicant): VA
Country (if international applicant):
Intended major(s): History, Music
School Type: highly competitive public
Ethnicity: white
Gender: F
Income Bracket: NA
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): none

Reflection

Strengths: music supplements, GPA, course rigor, essays
Weaknesses: TEST SCORES
Why you think you were accepted/deferred/rejected:
Probably my music supplements? the dept. head did mention recruitment, not sure though! Also my essays were really funny.

General Comments:
Test scores are not everything! Never feel as though you can’t apply somewhere because you’re not in their testing range. Emory looks at you holistically and tries to learn about who YOU are as a person. Take some risks in your college search! You’ll never know where you’ll get in if you don’t try. I was so confident I was going to get rejected from Emory, but sometimes luck is on your side and it’s up to you to take a chance.

*Sorry for any and all typos in this comment :slight_smile: Good luck and godspeed!

@LHS2017 When they recruited you did they send you an email after you sent in your supplement?

@toris565 the only email I got after I sent in my supplement was the dept. head saying thank you for submitting and saying that he really enjoyed my supplements/listing some of things he liked about each piece. I never got an official statement or email about whether or not I had been recruited.