Official June 2012 SAT Writing (US)

<p>Alargeblackman14, I promise, promise, promise that you can say “insist that.” However, the problem with the answer choice was that the subjunctive must follow a phrase like “insist that,” and it didn’t.</p>

<p>@nelky I think it was followed by a subjunctive; “the family gather” is subjunctive isn’t it?</p>

<p>No…you just can’t insist that my friend. Looked it up. Found tons of concrete evidence. Go to silver turtle guide, go to writing owl- purdue. I’m sorry, insist that is in no way,shape,or form right. Going to do some act review, see ya.</p>

<p>Krungle, no, I’m pretty sure it didn’t. Like, that’s why I marked it wrong. Because it didn’t. </p>

<p>Also, alargeblackman14, you must’ve missed something while searching. You can say “I insist that you stay,” instead of the awkward idiomatic alternative: “I insist on your staying.” The latter is grammatically sound, but so is the former, and it sounds better to boot.</p>

<p>Plus, dude, you just used “insist that” in your previous post. Case closed?</p>

<p>I’m fairly sure that it was followed by subjunctive mood…but there’s no use arguing over what the answer choices said. Unless someone can shed some light on what the actual wording was, I guess we’ll just have to wait and see.</p>

<p>I recall the sentence reading “insisted that the family gathered,” which actually could make sense if “insisted” wasn’t a command, but I think in that case it was. This is all speculation. I have bad memory for test questions :)</p>

<p>In my memory, the answer stated “her mother’s insistence that the family gather every day to watch news”.</p>

<p>I could have misremembered as well though.</p>

<p>Haha, well either way, we can agree that the sentence was awkwardly worded, regardless of whether College board thinks it’s grammatically sound or not.</p>

<p>Agreed, college board has a knack for that. </p>

<p>I guess we should just wait and see what happens when college board grades em.</p>

<p>I mean, if we’re intelligent enough to have debates over the implications of certain grammatical structures, we’ll probably do well :)</p>

<p>Yeah, we should probably just relax. Scores are already effectively decided, it’s just a matter of waiting; we’re freaking out more than we really should be.</p>

<p><strong><em>Anyone</em></strong>
Ok, quick question. I know people had different orders for their exams, but for people with the experimental writing section- was it the first writing section (like section 3) that was the experimental or the second one (like section 6 or 7)?</p>

<p>Also, what was the improving sentence structure part (like what was the passage about for questions #29-34) for the experimental section and for the real section if you don’t know the above answers?</p>

<p>Need to know this information. Thanks</p>

<p>No, most grammar point are undebatable. If both “insistence on” and “insist that” are correct (and they both are), there must have been something else about the phrases.
And blackman, I don’t know how you’re so arrogant and sure of yourself even with your past scores. I got a perfect MC score in writing last time, yet I thought many of these questions were very tricky.
Also, “more harsh” was incorrect because it should’ve been “more harshly” since it was modifying a verb.</p>

<p>edit: I just did some quick googling and found that if “insist that” was correct, it should be answer choice A (“insist that the family gather”) because of the subjunctive mood.</p>

<p>jiggoha… the phrase was “the mother’s insistence”… so the answer was either " the mother’s insistence that the family gather togeather" or " the mother’s insistence on the family to gather togeather"</p>

<p>Anyone remember the question about China in section 10? It was second to last!</p>

<p>@gt yes it was insistence that the family gather.</p>

<p>Does anyone know the answer choices/the questino for the following answers?</p>

<p>author 2 asking a q by author 1
reflective but informative
systematically discredits</p>

<p>questions were: "How are passage 1 and passage 2 related? (library passages)- author 2 answers a question asked in passage 1 </p>

<p>What was the tone of the passage? (telescope)- reflective but informative</p>

<p>How are passage 1 and passage 2 related(education passages)? Passage 2 systematically discredits findings from passage 1</p>

<p>@gt, do you remember any other answer choices? Esp. for the second and third ones?</p>

<p>The second question had “pensive and …” as one of the choices I think</p>

<p>The third one had " passage 2 has a viewpoint that the author of passage one would find objectionable" as a choice.</p>