Official Regular Decisions Thread

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<p>Do you guys think I'll see you next year?</p>

<p>I'm a transfer Applicant
Stats</p>

<p>Frosh Tulane University
3.64 GPA First Semester, 4.0 Midterm 2nd semester</p>

<p>SAT 1370 SAT II 700, 650, 690
AP: 5, 4, 3, 3
Most rig courses, ranked top 10%</p>

<p>College EC:
Women in Science Club
Science Show for little kids
Green club, everglades restoration trip
Women's rugby club
dodgeball club
ceramics
glass sculpture
Tulane Democrats</p>

<p>High School EC:</p>

<p>Only girl on boys football, wrestling teams
2nd place at girls state wrestling championships and a winning season against boys my senior year, went to nationals
Rugby team
Super selective National USA Rugby Camp twice (i.e. one of the best 50 hs and college rugby players in the country)
Team Captain and Treasurer
Ceramics
Softball
Theater
Powderpuff Football
Tried to start a girls football league, got close</p>

<p>Work experience: </p>

<p>2 summers science research
Ceramics teacher at a number of places
Volunteer Ceramics teacher
Teacher for kids science camp
Pizza chef
Mentor for high school science camp
Rugby coach </p>

<p>Took a year off after high school in which i did many of these things</p>

<p>Extras: booklet from science research (wonderful, but very old). Exceptional ceramics portfolio. Two out of this world additional recommendations</p>

<p>Essays: I think very good.
Recs: Safe to assume good</p>

<p>Waitlisted last year</p>

<p>Have average financial need, adn admissions is not need blind. </p>

<p>Thoughts guys? Will I see you?!?!</p>

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<p>inscape you are completely out of line and have NO right to say anything, because you have NO idea what type of situation digital is in, nor are you an admission's officer...cut the bitter cr@p</p>

<p>collegefreak, it was not his ethnicity that was the biggest factor, if anything it was digital's amazing potential. thankfully, the admission office is able to see past digital's current situation, put it in context, and see what he can do (something some of you can't seem to grasp). look at digital's stats again and try to put them in context! (check out his essay topic)...crumflake, asterstar, and especially digital himself summed it up pretty well!</p>

<p>from collegeboard...</p>

<p>Statistics</p>

<p>Enrollment: 5,772
Average SAT: 1390
Average ACT: 29
Student Faculty Ratio: 9:1 </p>

<p>Very important admission factors:
Character/Personal Qualities
Secondary School Record
Talent/Ability</p>

<p>Important admission factors:
Class Rank
Essay
Extracurricular Activities
Recommendations </p>

<p>Considered:
Alumni/AE Relation
Geographical Residence
Interview
Minority Status
Standardized Test Scores
State Residency
Volunteer Work
Work Experience</p>

<p>digital you should be proud of all you've accomplished, and i can't wait to see you next year :)</p>

<p>and finally, to all you haters: hate the game, not the player ;)</p>

83

<p>"It grates on my every nerve when he says that because he doesn't know the hell it is being a poor Mexican with parents who used to be illegal immigrants and who became citizens against their will only so that I and my sister would have a sliver of the opportunity this rich white kid takes for granted"</p>

<p>what really disgusts me is that I am also an immigrant whose parents used to be illegal citizens and I grew up in a very bad part of NYC. Luckily for me, my parents have climbed the economic ladder and we now live in a moderately wealthy suburb. Yet, because I am not officially designated a "minority" I am presumed to be like that white kid.
Ugh.... oh well, most of this post is my bitterness releasing itself, I apologize in advance. In case you couldnt tell, I was rejected.</p>

84

<p>Digital,
You should read a book (if you haven't)about a young black male named Cedric Jenning that went to Brown in the late 90's. It was called A Hope in the Unseen by Ron Suskind. He had a 980 on his SAT scores but was very good in math. His school didn't have what other "better neighborhoods" had and he of course didn't have any expensive prep courses, etc. He did well and got solid B's most of the time and some A's. Later he went on to Harvard with high grades and now is getting his second masters degree at Univ. of Michigan. Admissions isn't always fair, but I think it's good that they don't always let in just the over-achiever that had the $ or environment to excel. Just because you don't test well, isn't always an indicator of how well you will do. And personality and passion enter into it also. An admission officer told me years ago when I was visiting a college with a friend, that some kids think they came off great, but they came off pompous and self-serving,whether in person or print and everything on their application seemed contrived.
Also SAT/ACT scores are important and help schools in rankings, but when a student gets upset if a 1450 gets in and she/he got a 1500, it's silly. Why don't they just have you send scores and that's it? It has to be more than they say in all cases not just between URM's and other students.</p>

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<p>Decision: Accepted</p>

<p>Stats:</p>

<ul>
<li>SAT: 1600</li>
<li>SAT IIs: 740 physics, 770 writing, 800 math 2c</li>
<li>GPA: 4.41W</li>
<li>Rank: 2/277</li>
<li>Other stats: 1 AP junior year, 3 senior year, National Merit Finalist</li>
</ul>

<p>Subjective:</p>

<ul>
<li>Essays: Pretty creative, I think.</li>
<li>Teacher Recs: I honestly don't know. I didn't read them.</li>
<li>Counselor Rec: Probably pretty good.</li>
<li>Hook (if any): </li>
</ul>

<p>Location/Person:</p>

<ul>
<li>State or Country: Massachusetts</li>
<li>School Type: Public</li>
<li>Ethnicity: White</li>
<li>Gender: Female</li>
<li>major strength/weakness: Strengths: Pretty good ECs, SATs. Weaknesses: I didn't really do anything that stands out.</li>
<li>why you think you were accepted/rejected/defered: I don't know. I'm still sort of in shock. I was getting waitlisted everywhere else, so it was nice surprise.</li>
</ul>

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<p>Digital, my sincerest congratulations. I hope you do extremely well at Brown. I'm not going to say race wasn't a factor, but I believe it was a small one. No one gets in just because of race, so your personal qualitities must be amazing. Can't wait to go to Brown with you (and people like you).</p>

87

<p>I believe in diversity. Diversity of race, religion, academic interests, extracurricular interests, personality, political views, experiences, etc. So congratulations, Digital! I hope I meet you at Brown next year!</p>

88

<p>Digital, congratulations! I'm sure you will excel beyond anyone's hopes at Brown. I am honored to know that I could be attending Brown with people like you.</p>

89

<p>Decision: REJECTED</p>

<p>Stats:</p>

<ul>
<li>SAT: 1440</li>
<li>SAT IIs: 760 world history, 770 writing, 690 math ic</li>
<li>GPA: 4.466W</li>
<li>Rank: 14/388</li>
<li>Other stats: 5 english, 5 european history, 4 art history. hardest courseload, athlete, musician, national latin award. </li>
</ul>

<p>Subjective:</p>

<ul>
<li>Essays: excellent</li>
<li>Teacher Recs: should have been geat, but i didnt read them </li>
<li>Counselor Rec: Excellent</li>
<li>Hook (if any): </li>
</ul>

<p>Location/Person:</p>

<ul>
<li>State or Country: Pennsylvania</li>
<li>School Type: Public</li>
<li>Ethnicity: White</li>
<li>Gender: Female</li>
<li>major strength/weakness: Strengths:recs, essays
Weaknesses: nothing spectacular.</li>
<li>why you think you were accepted/rejected/defered: i dont know.</li>
</ul>

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<p>If I were digital, I would not go to Brown. With SATs at that level, and a not terribly impressive GPA of 3.5 at a horrid school, it will be hard to keep up with most other students. Why subject yourself to daily humiliation? You will feel better at a school that will be better suited to your current academic preparation, which frankly, is not good. I am sure you will succeed in life, but a tough school like Brown may actually be a hindrance at this point.</p>

91

<p>I wanted to say congratulations to all of you prospective brownies! My condelences to those who recieved a rejection or waitlist. Just makes me more excited to apply next year. And a special congrats to Zante</p>

92

<p>"If I were digital, I would not go to Brown. With SATs at that level, and a not terribly impressive GPA of 3.5 at a horrid school, it will be hard to keep up with most other students. Why subject yourself to daily humiliation? You will feel better at a school that will be better suited to your current academic preparation, which frankly, is not good. I am sure you will succeed in life, but a tough school like Brown may actually be a hindrance at this point."</p>

<p>I don't know if I could have done much better while simultaneously supporting my siblings and working until 11 PM every night. Especially in an underprivileged background, without access to any sort of prep or the financial means/time to retake the exam. Cut him some slack.</p>

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<p>I got accepted, but I also got waitlisted at Harvard. I think I'd be happier at Brown though. My sister's a senior there, and she absolutley loves it. Whenever I've gone to visit her, I've felt the same thing. I think I'll still persue the Harvard waitlist, but I think even if I do get off that, I still might want to go to Brown...</p>

94

<p>This might not be the same as Digital's homelife, but in CT where I live a homeless boy got into Yale because of his heavy studying and mother's perserverence even while living in hotel rooms. An excerpt:
Daniels is not your typical Yale student. From the time he was 7, he and his family were homeless, living in a series of shelters and motels on Long Island.</p>

<p>When he arrived on campus last fall for his freshman year, Daniels faced challenges that were not just academic. He had to figure out how to fit in with his wealthy, worldly classmates.</p>

<p>"I knew I was different," he said. "I tried to fit in wherever I could."</p>

<p>But it turned out it was easier fitting in at Yale than in the suburbs of New Haven.
He downplayed what it was like being raised in motels, where he willed himself to study on a mattress and box spring in the corner of small, dark rooms.</p>

<p>Daniels credited his mother, Sharon, and his stepfather, Kevin, for motivating him to keep up with his school work.</p>

<p>"If I got a C," he recalled, "my parents would say, ‘What’s going on?’"</p>

<p>Daniels attended a total of five schools from kindergarten through 12th grade. "I kind of liked being the new kid, making new friends. I’m able to adjust to new things pretty quickly."</p>

<p>All through those years and during his freshman year at Yale, Daniels claimed, "The idea of home never really came up" in discussions with his friends.</p>

<p>Hearing this, I asked him, "Are you a loner?" He answered, "People have said that about me."</p>

<p>But now he is looking forward to moving back to his Yale dormitory and meeting the new year’s freshmen.</p>

<p>This young man didn't have stellar scores, but did very well for his high school. Sometimes, not always, you just need a chance. Some of the smartest kids crash at college and some can't stop competing. My brother is a cop at an Ivy league college and he sees the stress and uglier side of academia at times. The stress of still trying to be the smartest kid in school leads to a lot of incidents that are regretable later. The ones that find the balance are the luckiest.</p>

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<p>About SAT scores being merely "considered," I don't buy it for a second. Most schools say SATs are not a deciding factor, but in reality they have a huge influence. How could they not? Just look at most of those posting who were accepted. 1400's and 1500's ABOUND</p>

96

<p>Decision: ACCEPTED</p>

<p>SAT: 1470 (690V/780M)
SAT IIs: 780Writing/710MathIIC/700Bio-M
GPA: 3.71UW/4.3W
Rank: 131/949
9 AP tests total, all passed
Very sparse extracurriculars</p>

<p>Essays: Perfect.
Teacher Recs: Very good.
Counselor Rec: No idea.</p>

<p>State or Country: Long Beach, CA
School Type: Public
Ethnicity: Mixed/Latino
Gender: Male
Major strength/weakness: Strength: Test scores, essays, recommendations Weakness: ECs, GPA
Why you think you were accepted: Fluke!</p>

<p>Other Factors: </p>

<p>Mediocre interview</p>

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<p>ClaySoul, if you look at the actual breakdown of the entire admitted pool, you'll see that 1200's and 1300's also abound. You'll also see that most of the 1400's and 1500's have impressive grades and the rest of the package--those who don't were most likely rejected.</p>

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<p>mensa, i believe that you are completely full of $hit. Digital had obviously worked incredibly hard, working jobs and balancing the life he described with his grades- which, I believe are very good, a 3.5 is a high B+. You said why subject yourself to daily humiliation- humiliation according to who? a$$holes like yourself, who would judge people based on their grades? Thank god you're going to harvard.</p>

99

<p>accepted...</p>

100

<p>Decision: Accepted
SAT: 1480 (790V/690M)
SAT IIs: 780WH/760Wri/750US
GPA: 3.94UW
Rank: 6/67
School doesn't offer APs, but I am currently taking AP Bio and AP Euro at a nearby public high school
National Qualifier in debate and speech, Student Council Exec Board, President of Amnesty International (first high school AI group in ND)</p>

<p>Essays: Reasonably good, I think
Teacher Recs: Very good.
Counselor Rec: Awesome</p>

<p>State or Country: Fargo, ND
School Type: Private Catholic
Ethnicity: Mixed... Chinese/Scandinavian
Gender: Female
Major strength/weakness: Strength: Uber politically active in ND, worked on two statewide campaigns last fall, got letter of rec from my Congressman (currently interning for), also had rec from professor from <a href="mailto:Summer@Brown">Summer@Brown</a>. Weakness: rank </p>

<p>Why you think you were accepted: Awesome Summer @ Brown Rec, geographic location</p>

<p>Also accepted at Georgetown, Wellesley, Sarah Lawrence, Macalester, waitlisted at Harvard, rejected from Yale</p>