Official SAT II Literature thread

<p>yay for "poignancy"</p>

<p>Uhm..I hated that Charlotte passage, the questions were so freaking vague. The last one was pretty sucky too. Damn it!</p>

<p>And if the Stella one isn't about stars, then the poem wouldn't make sense. Especially since he described the fools as enjoying to behold them (lamps) or something close to that, but not particularly respecting them. Overall, it just wouldn't make sense if it weren't stars. Which reminds me, did anyone else get heavenly bodies as another answer to a question about that same poem? Yes..yes?</p>

<p>Does anyone remember the questions with multiple answers...the I, II, III ones. Also, what do you guys think the grading scale will be? Like how many can you miss and leave blank and still score within the 700s?</p>

<p>Those of us who thought the astrology one was based on astrology, lamps were stars, etc. are right. I did a quick web search here is the 'translation' of it:
dusty wits = earth bound, heavy minds; sad cases.
those lamps of purest light = the stars.
to have - this refers back to the lamps (stars) of line 2. 'Some dusty wits and fools think that the stars have their birthplace in the sky for no other reason than to twinkle some light, and to dance a reel to please us'.
birthright = right to which birth entitles one. Used here metaphorically to signify place of birth and dwelling.
brawl = a kind of French dance. (OED.n.3.)
reign on the low = rule over the lowly, i.e. those who dwell in lower regions.
these rules = the principles by which stars influence humans.
did fail = should fail. proof = experience. fore-judge = foretell.
my after following race = my subsequent career, the subsequent course of my life.
Sidney argues that it is foolish to disbelieve in the influence of the stars, for he knows that Nature is not idle, but does things by design. Besides, he only has to look at the two stars which are Stella's eyes, and they foretell all his future. Therefore the stars do influence us and it is foolish to scorn astrology.</p>

<p>man i omitted the roman numeral ones just because i was so paranoid. for the play excerpt with willie and co., i wanted to put II and III because I said that the dancing is a 'counterpoint' to the discussion, and it didn't seem like counterpoint to me. however, II and III wasn't an option so i thought better of it and just left it blank.</p>

<p>i think there was a roman numeral for prosody....which i most likely omitted out of sheer fright. alas, i am bested.</p>

<p>I think I had the same reasoning, Silver, for the play roman numeral. Instead of leaving it blank though, I think I chose E (I, II, III) because...I was running severely low on time. </p>

<p>Thanks for the verification, falcon, definitely good to hear.</p>

<p>just read the previous posts. spooky, i got heavenly bodies for an answer. </p>

<p>i also got 'amusement' and 'awe and respect'.</p>

<p>for the 'relaxed and ready to romance', i know i didn't put the melodramatic thing though. there was an answer choice about it relating to the events that will follow, or something along those lines. anyone recall anything to that extent?</p>

<p>What's the curve like for Lit? How many q's can you miss and still get a 770+?</p>

<p>I also got amusement for the Charlotte passage (question about the author's tone or something) and awe and respect for Stella. I totally remember the 'relaxed and ready' question on the play section, but I have no idea what I put, which tells me I just guessed. Also, I put 'mundane' for the last question in that same section. The answer for one of the first questions was that the dancing symbolized an ideal world right? And later on, foibles of leaders?</p>

<p>Anybody...how many do you think can be missed/ left blank to still get within the 700s?
Also, the astrology one was about her eyes...at least I think so...though people seem to debate that one.</p>

<p>I heard you could miss about 15 and still get a 700</p>

<p>Somebody please answer...and lets try and compile a list of all the questions..62 there were. That would be great. Thanks all and good luck.</p>

<p>what question was it that had an answer choice of the sheaves bending in the wind? was that the right answer?</p>

<p>Yeah I put that too.....what does the shadow of the wind refer to or something</p>

<p>Yah this test wasn’t too bad but it had some confusing areas, so here are my thoughts:</p>

<p>a few things:</p>

<p>first = “thief’s feelings”</p>

<p>the thief DOES NOT hate the rich / poor - rather he criticizes people for unattentiveness - for example the mother's inability to attend to her kids the maid (WHO DOES NOT HOLD POWER / MONEY) and her flirtatious nature</p>

<p>however - the passage does indicate that the thief looks at the jewelry and says... he notes that it is probably worth 12 - 14 pounds - this means he has SOME knowledge of jewlery (verbatim for answer C)</p>

<p>second = “'relaxed and ready'”</p>

<p>now that I think about about it … the melodramatic tone answer is correct – as willie’s bs about dancing is juxtaposed with hally’s melodramatic (so what happens if they lose a point..) – however I put down the answer pertaining to the ludicrousness of his actions … so probably wrong but whatever</p>

<p>third = “the narrator’s attitude in the charlotte/Arthur interlude”</p>

<p>look you guys that put amusement… wrong – there is absolutely no indication that Arthur is ridiculous in the narrative asides – it’s through his SPOKEN DIALOGUE that reveals his silliness – however the narrator in the exposition talks about how “SINCERE” arthur’s actions were when he gives up his chair to charlotte yet he was actually warm by the fire – this is cynicism in the flesh – the narrator sarcastically infers that b/c Arthur was warm, his actions were not sincere</p>

<p>fourth = “mother’s death”</p>

<p>I agree with ebony tear – the introduction about his mother’s death is essential in the essay b/c it elevates the rest of the passage onto a higher status – in perspective, we as readers view her childhood recollections as VERY important b/c she states in the introduction that despite having seen her mother as she was dying, she remembers these events more clearly … poignancy is already added to the fact that darkness is a overarching theme in the recollections anyways – however, these events without the introduction do not seem important and everlasting but rather ephemeral or childish, we only know this b/c she as an adult still holds weight to these memories despite witnessing her mother’s death</p>

<p>fifth = “phone call at the store”</p>

<p>I put down that it removed them from their idealization = b/c their thoughts were getting out of hand … as it spiraled to thoughts of a shift in critical IR towards a global civil society, even renaming his essay to .. something akin to “global peace dancing” or some bs – but this one I’m not so hot about – b/c snapping back from idealization is essentially moving towards their mundane environment – bad answers imo</p>

<p>in regards to the charlotte/arthur passage and arthur giving up his chair, there was that question of arthur and his "civility" or something. anyone remember the answer?</p>

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<p>i think everyone's interpretations were justified very well, just goes to show how subjective lit is. I didn't really understand the wheat one and the stars one.
thief: i put he hates rich and famous
mother's death: unique</p>

<p>phone call: mundane
lamps: like stars
no idea about stella, just guessed</p>

<p>im feeling uneasy by everyone's different interpretations</p>

<p>austen is actually *****ing about charlotte (rather than arthur) that we are made sympathetic to arthur. 'amusement'. is my answer.
silverhammer: i said arthur sat down and indulge in his comfort or something.
i said 'distance herself', but i may be wrong. someone argued for 'ingratiate'. any comments??
what was the arthur trying 'not to appear foolish' question? i don't remember it at all...</p>

<p>anyone remembers the answer for one of the first few questions: regarding the first thought or something.</p>

<p>regarding the purpose of mentioning the mother's death. -> i said unique event, but poignancy may be correct. </p>

<p>last poem first question: about the shadow of the wheat what are the choices and the correct answer??</p>

<p>i said interpreting without constraints. very confident of this, anyone thinks otherwise?</p>

<p>as far as charlotte's attitude, I thought she was presented as equal or whatever, seeing as she refused the chair, expressed her opinion readily, controlled the convo, told him to exercise more, etc. Women of the period generally may not have done these things.</p>

<p>it never said in the passage that the thief hates the rich and famous; i looked thru several times but could find nothing; thus, the only answer that made sense is that he knows something about jewelry, since he knew it was made of gold and its value</p>

<p>for the mother's death one, i thought it added poignancy to the scene; as it became somewhat of a eulogy. I do not think it was a unique event, as most people in the world unfortunately lose their mothers at some point in their lifetimes. </p>

<p>i also thought the wheat was beauty and impermanence, as it was growing but bent by the wind, then harvested and left in golden bundles, then taken away. i am not sure about the whole little girls reference; i thought they stood for the bundles of wheat.</p>

<p>in the play, i said that the ringing phone brought them back to reality from their idealistic view of the world.</p>