<p>"stanford picks some students over others and it's just plain ridiculous"
-stockguru92</p>
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<p>i don't understand why people on this forum are surprised to find they don't understand the admissions process. we spend so much time trying to analyze the numbers, when these universities have already said that they don't solely base their decisions off stats and laundry lists of activities and awards. and yet we post our SAT scores and AP course loads, etc. expecting to find some type of correlation between them and acceptance. then when this type of analysis fails, we call the process "ridiculous"! </p>
<p>we don't post and compare our essays. we don't know what our recommendations said. a large percentage of the application is completely subjective and personal. how can we look at such a small percentage of the total application and think we can predict decisions? how can we know so little about the process and call it ridiculous right off the bat?</p>
<p>i'm not trying to be argumentative, but i'm tired of people saying that those accepted were accepted in a complete "crapshoot," as if we didn't work as hard or we somehow don't deserve admission. its hard to make that type of judgment, considering our limited knowledge on the process.</p>
<p>not to pick on stockguru92 personally. there were many posts before his/hers that were in the same mindset i thought. and its been an emotional day for all involved, granted.</p>
<p>aberdeen, i would not be frustrated by the fact that a few kids who were URM with some uniqueness to them managed to get in, but i kind of feel as though it's a large trend... so many URMs get accepted over the ORMs who are higher performers on every level of high school achievement that it becomes kind of frustrating. again, i'm not going to be a bigot about races and whatnot as i strongly believe that all races are equal and should not be slandered. however, i simply feel as though college admissions should be a bit more equalized in their approach rather than seek "diversity". i congratulate all that got in however, as your achievement is enviable... best of luck. again i hope i didn't **** anyone off... it's just a rough day :/.</p>
<p>people on this forum are venting some frustration and sadness over their rejection/deferral
and i think that's completely alright and think that if it makes you feel better, more power to ya
but you guys just need to make sure that while you say these things that you don't put down those who did get accepted, for stanford must have had some reason for making these decision
i think that debating why someone got accepted over you is a fruitless and degrading discussion
but, take it for what it's worth - just oprah's opinion!</p>
<p>Hey guys, I don't know about you guys, but I'm done with this thread...</p>
<p>Let's just drop the whole argument about accepted/rejected okay? URM, legacy, essays, luck, whatever. We're just going to run circles and go no where. </p>
<p>Congrats to those accepted and good luck to those deferred/rejected.</p>
<p>(don't ask me why I posted since I'm done with this thread...weird impulse)</p>
<p>yeah i understand stockguru, and i wasn't trying to attack you personally or anything. i just wanted to vent some frustrations as well. no hard feelings.</p>
<p>and, yeah, i think URMs do tend to get the advantage in admissions. my mom teaches at an HBCU and she constantly stresses how... useful it is to be "a black female in engineering." its annoying. i wish i could be judged on the same plane as ORMs at times because i know i'm a good student regardless. so i totally see what you are saying, i've thought about it myself, and i can see your frustration.</p>
<p>thanks man. again, i'm not trying to **** everyone off. congratulations to everyone who got in! consolation to those who didn't... you'll get in somewhere else you'll love. promise.</p>
<p>look
I totally understand that being a URM totally played a factor in my admission, I just don't think it's fair to say that people like me are "underperforming" and only get in because of race. Why do you always seem to downplay people's accomplishments by saying that they mean nothing outside of the context of my ethnic background.</p>
<p>when has stanford ever established that anythign on my record isnt "stanford material." Just because I'm not some amazing TASPer who can do hanstand pushups doesnt mean I shouldn't deserve to go. </p>
<p>Guys, let's not get into an affirmative action debate. Admissions at top colleges are subjective and adcoms are oftentimes between a rock and a hard place. A pool filled with a majority of qualified applicants forces them to look to other parts of an application, not just test scores, GPAs, and awards, for a decision.
But that's just my 2 cents...</p>
<p>the bottom line is that all of us are qualified. we each have unique things to offer. The diversity that someone can offer a school is something unique to that applicant and of course it has influence. Whats the big deal, its nothing new?</p>
<p>hey guys, i didn't get my decision email friday, so i'll find out on monday. but i was wondering if there was a reason why some people didn't find out on friday. thoughts? thanks.</p>
<p>I love it how URMs can so easily say "let's not get into an affirmative action debate". See the end of "With Respect to Jesse Jackson" for reference on how wrong that is.</p>
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I totally understand that being a URM totally played a factor in my admission, I just don't think it's fair to say that people like me are "underperforming" and only get in because of race. Why do you always seem to downplay people's accomplishments by saying that they mean nothing outside of the context of my ethnic background.</p>
<p>when has stanford ever established that anythign on my record isnt "stanford material." Just because I'm not some amazing TASPer who can do hanstand pushups doesnt mean I shouldn't deserve to go.
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<p>Since the last statement could be interpreted many different ways, I'll ignore it. The first paragraph, though, is wrong. We aren't downplaying any accomplishments, just pointing out that they worked out for you because of your race. Don't think we are degrading you, but we are being realistic about the circumstances of your acceptance.</p>
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<p>That is a generalization, and you picked a very bad time to get introduced to anyone on here.</p>
<p>i don't agree or like amciw.
i think this whole quoting people just to tell them how they're wrong is a nasty thing to do
i think we should just move past this and look forward to the future!
liiiiike to winter breaaakkkkk!!!!
AHHH!</p>
<p>We've never denied the fact that AA had an influence on our decision, amciw. We have just pointed out that AA should not be the end all, be all of our acceptance. Don't assume you know what went on between adcoms when you so clearly don't.</p>
<p>Oprah, with all due respect, you aren't being very considerate of the facts, or other people. Its also easy for you to be happy since you got in. Try being someone who wasn't...</p>
<p>Also, its hard to look forward to winter break when it is going to be mostly doing college apps.</p>
<p>To respond to Olive_Tree, that wasn't the point. The point was that you were trying to discourage discussing AA, when it obviously helped you significantly. Its easy for someone who benefited greatly from it to ignore the subject, while not so for someone who had it work against them.</p>
<p>amen to amciw. we're human. obviously the people who got into stanford would have different opinions and thoughts than those who didn't. It can't be simpler.</p>