<p>Yeah, I agree superealge10. Lol, but I still hope that I get accepted, who knows if I wouldn't be like that if I got denied.....ah, I don't even want to think about it!</p>
<p>dpattzlover, don't go down the same path I did.
I didn't even think I wouldn't be accepted, and look how that turned out! haha</p>
<p>hey ruskie, you talked about personality getting a person into Stanford. Well, your impulsive attitude seems like you aren't qualified at all. Just accept that there are some arrogant people out there and move on; there is no need to start a war online. Good luck anyways</p>
<p>awww I'm really sorry killthefifi =/ you have really awesome stats, & I am just as confused as everyone else is regarding Stanford's admission process this year...if this is how SCEA was, I can only imagine what RD will be like...I keep thinking to myself 'maybe they sent out false rejections, like Cornell did a few years ago." :-X congrats to all those accepted; to those deferred, good luck in the next round!; & to those rejected, you guys are amazing, this thing can only make you or break you, remember that.</p>
<p>I've never met killthefifi, so I don't want anything I say to be taken personally. And all I know of him is what I read in this one post. He may be a great guy in some other context. I take him to be more of a symbol of what's wrong with the overly competitive approach to college selection. And I'm responding to that symbol, not to an individual I've never met. </p>
<p>First I have to wonder how someone can show such poor judgment and simultaneously present himself as so smart. </p>
<p>Why do I say poor judgment? It starts the heading: I wasn't just a normal reject. Really? So you're a special reject? Do you really believe that you are special?</p>
<p>Then you go from "Stanford is not just a dream for me, but it is who I am. Stanford is the living rendition of my personality" to "Stanford, you have destroyed me" and some inane insults - "the sterile Stanford bubble." Just because they rejected you? Did you really do your research? If the school was that great a few weeks ago, why does one action change your opinion so much? And if you are so competent, how is it that you get destroyed so easily?</p>
<p>How can you not be aware that for every top university in the US there are several that are remarkably similar that are a little easier to get into? I would think that anyone with average common sense knows this. My son's first choices right now - he's a junior - are Stanford and Vanderbilt. But he's very much aware that his current safety schools - Tulane and Pittsburgh - have advantages also. And if he started falling in love with Stanford, I'd be dragging his butt to Mardi Gras next week and Pitt basketball games the week after that - things you don't get at Stanford, to help him see that life is not so black and white.</p>
<p>BTW, I went to schools you've heard of but that are not nearly as prestigious as Stanford. At the end of my grad school days we were interviewing for an Assistant Professor opening and a candidate from Stanford came to speak to us. He was a dolt. By far the dumbest of the ten or so candidates who visited. Anyway, my career has turned out just fine without the credentials. And if my son hears about some community college where he can get lots of individual attention for two years and decides that's what he wants, it will be fine with me.</p>
<p>And finally, GL. Really. Not that you asked for my advice but I'd recommend that you go to the least prestigious school that has some good computer people. Someplace that rhymes with MIT but most of us don't know whether it's OK or good or very good.</p>
<p>people like killthefifi make me chuckle. narcissism at its finest.</p>
<p>i got in... and i may not be able to even go if i can't afford it. how do you think that feels? i'm not complaining. if i can't go, then i'll do what i do somewhere else.</p>
<p>get over yourself.</p>
<p>Hey, rejection is a harsh reality. I do sympathize (I can't spell anymore) with that. </p>
<p>But what I don't sympathize with is how some people expect admit letters from a school like Stanford. </p>
<p>Expect the worst and maybe life will give you fewer lemons. If life gives you more lemons, just make lemonade out of it and add some sugar. Then sell your lemonade and make money out of it. </p>
<p>Ok ... that analogy/metaphor seems too far-fetched.</p>
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Why do I say poor judgment? It starts the heading: I wasn't just a normal reject. Really? So you're a special reject? Do you really believe that you are special?
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I didn't mean I was better than everyone else or anything, because I know my accomplishments pale in comparison to some of the other applicants.
I was referring to how I wasn't normal because I became way too attached, unlike other people who know the reality of how selective that school is.</p>
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Did you really do your research? If the school was that great a few weeks ago, why does one action change your opinion so much? And if you are so competent, how is it that you get destroyed so easily?
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Believe me, I did my research. I can't even begin to count the number of days that I was on page 30 of the google results, trying to learn everything I could about this school.
If the same thing happened to you, would you still be head-over-heels about the place? After putting in so much effort for one school, just to have them say, "I'm sorry, but you suck at life, and we chose someone else," how would you react?</p>
<p>This wasn't just a light smack. This letter wasn't just one of a couple dozen. Due to their SCEA policy, I felt completely worthless for over a month after, because this was the only college I've heard from. Put yourself in someone else's shoes for once. Working for so long, just to be rejected from the one school that you cared so passionately about? Four years of relentless work, culminating in a meager rejection is what hurt me. If you want to criticize the college admissions process, start by complaining about the marketing forced onto today's youth. Talk about the pressure on the schools to have low admit rates and high yields. When a school portrays itself as the end goal of today's high achievers, it's bound to break a few hearts along the way.</p>
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How can you not be aware that for every top university in the US there are several that are remarkably similar that are a little easier to get into? I would think that anyone with average common sense knows this.
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You say that you're not personally attacking me, but it's comments like this that serve to negate any slight empathy you provide.</p>
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And if he started falling in love with Stanford, I'd be dragging his butt to Mardi Gras next week and Pitt basketball games the week after that - things you don't get at Stanford, to help him see that life is not so black and white.
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Some of us don't have parents so involved with our college process. Life isn't black and white and most people know this. I'm not saying that Stanford is the only way, but it was the best way for me. Now, I'm looking for the 2nd best. I'm not the one who's putting things as black and white here.</p>
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At the end of my grad school days we were interviewing for an Assistant Professor opening and a candidate from Stanford came to speak to us. He was a dolt. By far the dumbest of the ten or so candidates who visited. Anyway, my career has turned out just fine without the credentials.
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Quite honestly, I couldn't care less if Stanford was ranked a couple hundred spaces lower on the USNWR rankings. So what about the name? I liked the school for what it offered to me, not because of the prestige. I wanted to go there for the things I couldn't get at another school.</p>
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And finally, GL. Really. Not that you asked for my advice but I'd recommend that you go to the least prestigious school that has some good computer people. Someplace that rhymes with MIT but most of us don't know whether it's OK or good or very good.
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And by this you mean? Rhymes with MIT? "least prestigious school that has some good computer people"? This last paragraph doesn't begin to make sense, unless you're saying that because I didn't get into Stanford, that I'm stuck going to a school with a bad CS department.
I applied to some of the UCs, USC, Caltech, and the University of MD. If you were to look it up, you would see that all of these schools have a very reputable CS program. I've already been accepted to one with a full ride, so you can't just say, "Oh, you're stuck going to whatever school now, good luck because you'll need it."
So what? I didn't get in, but that still doesn't change who I am.</p>
<p>Oh and ngolsh314...
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people like killthefifi make me chuckle. narcissism at its finest.</p>
<p>i got in... and i may not be able to even go if i can't afford it. how do you think that feels? i'm not complaining. if i can't go, then i'll do what i do somewhere else.</p>
<p>get over yourself.
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Are you serious? So because I didn't get in, all of a sudden I'm narcissistic?
It seems like you're just projecting your own inadequacies onto me. Is it you who needs to get over yourself?
And don't think you're so high and mighty just because you have the option of going, and don't think that I give a crap about your opinion, because I could care less.</p>
<p>Try finding someone who appreciates listening to your grating comments.</p>
<p>ngolsh, I think people are still unsure about your "Likely letter" that you recieved in early Feb seeing as likely letters came out 2-3 days ago.</p>
<p>killthefifi, chill. your posts certainly haven't shown any maturity.</p>
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Stanford, you have destroyed me.
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So what? I didn't get in, but that still doesn't change who I am.
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defensive much? self-contradictory as well.</p>
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Try finding someone who appreciates listening to your grating comments.
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if you don't want to hear others' opinions, don't go on message boards.</p>
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Working for so long, just to be rejected from the one school that you cared so passionately about?
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not the only one.</p>
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Put yourself in someone else's shoes for once.
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pathetic hypocrisy. you're not the only one who liked Stanford and got rejected.</p>
<p>To Killthefifi: I think you are definately overreacting to your rejection. Yes, we know you were in love with Stanford, but I think that you should not take the rejection so personally. There were many well qualified applicants that were rejected in the Stanford Slaughter(just look at this thread!) and your rejection doesn't mean your life is over. If you are still interested in Stanford, think about going there for Grad school(that's my plan if I get rejected). I say just relax, get everything together, and simply move on. A student with your stats should have no problem getting into another top school. Good luck to you!</p>
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killthefifi, chill. your posts certainly haven't shown any maturity.
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You really don't better the situation by saying this.</p>
<p>So what if I was upset? After reading everything about me, can you see why I was upset? This was the one place where I felt that I really belonged. Now that I've been on these forums, I realize I couldn't put up with some of the people there, but I was so attached then. I took it way too personally.</p>
<p>You're quoting things I said a month ago, when I was in the depths of anger, and things I said recently, after I've realized it doesn't matter as much.
I've learned so much by this decision, and I know I've contradicted myself, because I've recovered since then.
stanford destroyed me then, but now I've moved on.</p>
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if you don't want to hear others' opinions, don't go on message boards.
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Well, duh. I'm not telling him that he doesn't have free speech.
I find it stupid that he thinks that I'm narcissistic, and that I need to "get over myself."
If I need to get over anything, it's the rejection, not myself.
Someone who posts on this thread to only personally attack someone else really doesn't contribute to the discussion, and I'm one of the few who would call him out on it.</p>
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pathetic hypocrisy. you're not the only one who liked Stanford and got rejected.
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I never said I was!
First off, my entire post wasn't directed towards you.
It was towards the parent of a stanford-hopeful.
Second, I'm not some egotistical freak who won't give up. It just hit me harder.
There were far better qualified applicants than me rejected, and they deserved it more than I did.
We all got slaughtered together.
I wanted to show that there was yet another kid attached to the school who got rejected.
This thread serves to show how arbitrary decisions are, and I thought my stats/story would add to that.
As bad as it may seem, I wanted to show that so many strong applicants get rejected.</p>
<p>Was is so bad to try to offer condolences to the future applicants who are going to have to go though this? When next year's batch (or even the RD kids) come back and read this thread, I was hoping that they would see the reality of everything.</p>
<p>Why did I post so much on what's bad about stanford in another thread? To show that it's not perfect, as I believed it was for so long. So many strong people are going to be slaughtered and I want them to know it's really not the end of the world. It's just one measly school and life is so much more than that!</p>
<p>My first son was rejected from his first choice school-felt sad and depressed; entire family was furious with the school; second son learned from this-to expect rejection, and not to fall too deeply in love with any one school before being accepted; Other things learned; keep your choices quiet-share with just close family and guidance counselor; it can be tough explaining rejection-sometimes more than actually being rejected.</p>
<p>Come on, leave killthefifi alone. The kid has a right to vent. At only 17 or 18, how can we expect maturity. Writing on here is theraputic. You can see the stages of grief in the posts. And parents don't pile on. Good luck with the rest of your applications killthefifi, and remember, luck is the operative word.
b'smom: I disagree about not sharing rejections. It is good for the kids to see they are not alone. Being too proud to admit rejection will make it more difficult to deal with. It would be like it is a shameful secret, when it is not. The college admissions process is a crap shoot and if kids see it happening all around them, it will make them feel better. Rejection by a college is not an indictment of the kid, the kid's education or the kid's parents. Taking it out of the closet is best.</p>
<p>curious77: you have a point-and some schools have a rejection wall which is kind of cool; On the other hand, I still think it's easier to choose when and who to tell rather than have to do a lot of explaining after the fact.</p>
<p>@ killthefifi
you're narcissistic because you assumed they would accept you. you assumed you were better than 94% of the applicant pool. doesn't work that way, buddy.
if you didn't give a crap about my opinion, you wouldn't have replied, now would you.</p>
<p>@ ScaredAsHell
don't much care if people still think i'm lying.</p>
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@ killthefifi
you're narcissistic because you assumed they would accept you. you assumed you were better than 94% of the applicant pool. doesn't work that way, buddy.
if you didn't give a crap about my opinion, you wouldn't have replied, now would you.</p>
<p>@ ScaredAsHell
don't much care if people still think i'm lying.
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<p>Hypocrisy much?
If you didn't care that people thought you were lying, then you wouldn't reply!</p>
<p>I didn't assume I was better than most of the applicant pool, I was only hoping they'd like me more. Apparently they didn't, oh well.</p>
<p>There's definitely merit to the idea of keeping choices secret, I was honestly ****ed when eveyone found out my decisin because I had not told anyone. And for those of us who don't want to deal with shame, it's obviously the preferred option. I don't have the luxury of being in an environment that does not judge based on college acceptances.</p>
<p>DECISION: ACCEPTED
Rank 2/117
ACT 30
SAT M. 670 W 690 R 570
gahh too lazy to write the rest</p>
<p>hmmm I can't help but feel a certain amount of glee that I got a Columbia likely letter after being rejected from Stanford SCEA. </p>
<p>Their loss I guess :P</p>