***Official Thread for 2015 BSMD applicants***

<p>@luceatluxvestra‌ a hook would be something like being a URM, first generation college student, legacy applicant, etc. do you think it would help my chances if I apply to all the Drexel undergraduates?</p>

<p>@onlythebest13
I doubt it would HURT your chances. I know there are people who got accepted into multiple drexel associated programs and some who applied to multiple and only got into one. So I’d say if you have the time and Drexel’s Med School is one that you really want to go to, then yes apply to multiple.</p>

<p>Where else are you applying?</p>

<p>Would anyone like to chance me for Uconn’s BS/MD program? The requirements on the website are a 3.6 GPA and 1300 (Math and Reading) SAT score, however I have heard this can be misleading. They also base application on “experience in the medical field.”</p>

<p>CT Resident
Indian
GPA: 3.96 UW 4.33 W
Rank: top 5-10%
SAT 1: first time 600 Math 630 Reading 630 Writing
Second time: hoping for 2100-2200 (1400 Reading+ Math)
(Does not require SAT IIs)
I have taken 10 Honors Courses
3 APs last year (World, Psych, Lang)
5 APs this year (Chem, Lit, APUSH, Calc, & Bio)</p>

<p>Volunteer Experience:
150 hours on an ambulance as an EMT
300 hours at a Renal Pathology Lab at Yale
50+ hours spent a Yale Hospital</p>

<p>~100 hours spent in non medical fields</p>

<p>Sports/Clubs/Activities
Varsity Tennis Co-captain
Robotics (went to F.I.R.S.T)
Debate
Tae Kwon Do (14 years)
Piano (7 years)
(Probably some more stuff)</p>

<p>Assuming my essays are average aswell, and recs are great, do you think I have a shot?
Thanks alot!</p>

<p>@Krish400158‌ It looks like you have a lot of great extracurriculars, and being in-state for the program will only help you. You’re right on par in terms of ECs and classes/gpa for these types of programs. That said, they do mainly consider SAT scores well above their minimum, so let’s hope you get the score you’re aiming for!! Honestly you’d probably have the best chance at this point if you concentrate a lot on your essays-- if they’re stellar, that’ll put you in a good position. That pretty much goes for any program or college you’re applying to. Honestly though, some of these programs are just completely random, so don’t get your heart too stuck on one! I’d also suggest checking out the results threads from the past few years to get a feel for what kinds of applicants are accepted and rejected. I was rejected as OOS to U Conn last year; feel free to go check out my stats. In my opinion, asking for people to chance you is almost worthless because it comes down to the eyes of the adcom when they’re reading your application, and these programs are especially random. Good luck!! :)</p>

<p>@starlight27‌ you had way better stats than me lol but yeah reading all the ba/bs posts are driving me crazy. It seems like where one person would have an amazing score, another would not get in. It does seem like luck! But thank you for your reply. I still have to right the essays though, i just hope they will be up to par</p>

<p>Say you get into Villanova’s program and attend their medical school after three years. When applying for resident spots, is it really hard to attain spots in CA?</p>

<p>Hi,</p>

<p>The UMKC BA/MD program has been my goal since fifth grade - I have tried for years to get my parents to move to Missouri to increase my chances, but economically that was not possible. I got my application completed by the 10/15/2014 deadline, and now I am now nervously waiting for the December interview notifications. Any idea on my chances?</p>

<p>Out of State, white male</p>

<p>AP Courses - 11
Honors Courses - All other core classes
Total Math Courses when graduate - 6 (including AP Calc AB)
Total Science Courses - 11 (I doubled up, taking two or three science courses each year)</p>

<p>GPA Unweighted 3.9
Class Standing #1
SAT 620/720/640</p>

<p>I have shadowed a dr 50 hours plus
I volunteered 150 hours plus</p>

<p>I researched and developed devices to give substitute sight to the blind and to use brainwaves to help the paralyzed. I am also researching a new antihypertensive medication. I have won grand prize and various places at regional, state, and international science fairs for my above projects. I am founder of several science/medical clubs at school and I tutor fellow students in math and science. I was president of my junior class. I have worked full-time, and did volunteer work during the last two summers. I have observed human autopsies and I have had experience using various medical equipment. </p>

<p>I have only applied to the UMKC program, as no other program interests me - if I am not accepted by UMKC, then I will take the traditional pre-med and then med school route at an in-state university.</p>

<p>In 2013, only 8 accepted were out of state, so I am extremely nervous.</p>

<p>Realistically, how do my chances look?</p>

<p>Thanks </p>

<p>Where are you located?</p>

<p>Southeastern USA.</p>

<p>AdVitam you have impressive stats, but oos odds at UMKC are extremely low, basically less that 0.1%. I am in the accelerated program at Brown, and I was rejected by UMKC. Your stats, although good, they are too low for Brown, So to be very honest I think your chances of getting into UMKC Medical are not good. Work on your state pre-med applications, and if you get lucky enough to interview then good luck, but understand the odds are very low for you because you are oss. And the number of oss being accepted by UMKC is decreasing every year. </p>

<p>Wait someone help clarify. I thought the deadline was November 1st? </p>

<p><a href=“http://med.umkc.edu/bamd/apply/”>http://med.umkc.edu/bamd/apply/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>If I live OOS, on the west coast, is it still worth it to apply to UMKC program? My stats are pretty strong, 2350+ SAT score, 770+ SAT 2, solid ECs too. </p>

<p>onlythebest, What are your “solid ECs?” and what about your gpa?</p>

<p>@Doggie321‌ </p>

<p>GPA is 4.5+ weighted, 4.0 UW. I don’t want to be too specific for privacy reasons (someone has already recognized me with this account). ECs include lots of research, shadowing and medical volunteer. Won some national competitions in my hobby (not medical related). </p>

<p>You should ask “Why am I considering UMKC?” Your stats make you Brown material, There is a big difference between 4.0 and 3.X, prefect is something few ever reach. That being said, I had 2400 Sat and 800 SAT II for math, and UMKC was not interested. Drexel, VA Commonwaelth, GW and Brown all accepted me, so my personality and interviewing must now be all that bad. So is it worth applying to UMKC? Well the application fee is low, but calculate the cost of a flight and hotel for an interview and it really is VERY EXPENSIVE for a 0.1% chance. Even as good as your stats are, you chance for an oos place at UMKC are very low. So why not focus your money and energy on the programs with better chances? Oos is really hard this year, I have been told by several 5th an 6th yr students I know who are in the program.</p>

<p>@Doggie321‌ Thank you for the kind words. Do you think that I should try to raise my SAT 1 and 2 scores up some? Yes, it’s only 1-3 questions difference between my score and a 2400, but from what I’ve heard, getting a 2400 is very impressive, if only because so few people attain it. I have also heard of people with perfect stats like yours, but minimal medical-related ECs (not saying that you fall into this category at all), who were accepted into top-notch programs, probably based on their high scores. </p>

<p>I haven’t won Siemens or Intel finalist or qualified for USABO or USAMO, so I’m afraid that while I may be competitive for typical undergraduate schools, I’m just a run of the mill BS/MD applicant. </p>

<p>onlythebest - you are NOT “run of the mill!” Get that thought out of your head and know you have great credentials for a high school student!</p>

<p>Retake the SAT? YES, you are right, 2 or 3 questions and you can get 2400. I did not have great ECs, but I had a 4.0 unweighted, 2400 SAT and *00 SAT II, and I was published for my chemistry research. Every BS?MD program except UMKC accepted me, and I am more “run of the mill” than you. Get a 2400 SAT and with your 4.0, you have the keys to go where ever you want!</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

<p>PS the “Nov 1 deadline” at UMKC is really Oct 15 - read closely and notice what the school does not say! Get your app complete by 10/15 and you are notified in December. It is like early action! If you miss Oct 15 but make the Nov 1 deadline, you are like the dregs in the bottom of the barrel - the school waits until they hear back from the 10/15 people re interview accepting (accepting the invite to interview, not acceptance to the program), then they see how many openings are probably available based on how many 10/15 people accepted their invite, then, and only then are the Nov 1 people given an interview, which is in late Jan and is a very small group. So if you miss the 10/15 deadline, you probably have no chance, especially if you are oos.</p>

<p>@Doggie321‌ If you don’t mind me asking, did you apply to any other BS/MD programs besides PLME, Drexel, VA Commonwaelth, and GW? Also, I have heard that acceptance into lower-tier programs is pretty formulaic, as in if you have good test scores, GPA, and ecs, then you’re pretty much in, provided that you have a decent interview. On the other hand, apparently top-notch programs like PLME and HPME look for something unique about applicants, beyond the usual shadowing/research/volunteer. Is this true from your experiences? </p>

<p>onlythebest13, All medical schools look to numbers, but even the lower ones like LECOM also look to “other” factors. The same applies to UMKC. For in state, a formula works, but of oss I believe that UMKC uses many factors including geography. And no, I only applied to those programs, I wanted to put myself in a position of all or nothing, if I failed then I would have taken a year off. I got lucky, all the programs except UMKC accepted me. And since I want to be ortho and research/teaching, it is clearly for the best to be at Brown.</p>

<p>@Doggie321 Is it true that since PLME doesn’t hold interviews, their admissions process relies heavily on the essay portion of the application? Also, any tips for the PLME essays?
And I was wondering if focusing on my culturally diverse background as an applicant would be helpful – I grew up abroad and speak five languages. Is this a strength that would stand out to a admissions committee?
Thanks!</p>