@dblazer You do not need a home residency program to match into that specialty.
@Roentgen Thanks a lot. Will call Student affairs to get the match list.
FYI. OU college started in 1900 but the new branch medical school started in collaboration with TU in Tulsa in 2000. Around 140 and 30 students per year admitted in respective schools. OU has 18 specialist departments and OU-TU has 8 specialist departments primarily focused on Community/ Primary care medicine. OU has pretty much most of the specialty & in house residencies except Cardio.
@GoldenRock, yes, the OU-Tulsa track is more a community based track type of program, but not necessarily a primary care track (although I was incorrect before: it offers all four years of the Doctor of Medicine Program on the OU-Tulsa Schusterman Campus: http://www.ou.edu/content/tulsa/community_medicine/md-program-scm-track.html). These are residencies and fellowships offered there: http://www.ou.edu/content/tulsa/residency.html, so it does not seem solely limited to primary care, itâs more a difference of being in a community medicine setting vs. an academic medical center setting. OUHSC in Oklahoma City, is more of an academic medical center - which you can see their residency specialties and subspecialty fellowships available here: http://hippocrates.ouhsc.edu/comweb/gme/gme_directory/program%20directory.cfm, so in terms of actually having a home residency program to serve as a lift off point in terms of competitive specialties, your daughter will not be limited in that particular regard.
@1CRYZX, I donât know what specialty specifically you were pointing out that @dblazer mentioned above, but if youâre referring to a competitive specialty like Derm, you will definitely be at a distinct disadvantage in the match by not having a home Derm residency program in which to make connections and network with over 4 years, and this is reflected accurately in terms of Albanyâs match lists and their number (or lack thereof) of Derm matches, since Albany, NY is quite far from NYC where most of their stateâs Derm residency programs are located. Doesnât mean it is impossible, of course, but you will be fighting an uphill battle, in terms of trying to match without taking a year off for research.
@Roentgen
Maybe Albany has not had Dermatology matches recently. But that trend doesnât necessarily hold true. Take for example a new medical school UCF in 2015 they had 3 dermatology matches and 1 neurosurgery match. I do not think they have any home residencies other than maybe internal medicine. Point being getting any speciality from anywhere is quite doable.
@junebug999 im giving up my oklahoma seat either tomorrow or the day after. i need to sort out some logistics first⊠it looks like im going to be a stony brook sea wolf (whatever that is) lol.
ALSO IF ANYONE ELSE is going to Stony Brook Scholars for medicine, please message me!! lets keep in touch over this summer!
@1CRYZX, well if you check UCFâs website: https://med.ucf.edu/directory/affiliated-volunteer-faculty/, youâll see that they indeed have academic dermatologists now on staff, although not an actual residency training program in place. Thatâs more than even what Albany has currently in place, when it comes to mentorship and resources for medical students who are trying to go for Derm. The matches into Derm were mainly at USF which is about 1 hour from Orlando, so itâs not unrealistic to think that itâs possible to get a few research pubs in w/their department much less their own faculty. You also donât know if they took a year off from med school to do Derm research at a great program to get good letters for the residency match, and thus matched with the next yearâs class. Compare that to the charter class match list: https://med.ucf.edu/media/2012/08/Match-Results-2013-without-names.pdf (to be fair, that year, the entire class got free medical school tuition, so it would be hard to turn that down). There will always be exceptions, but those people arenât the ones students, especially Bachelor/MD students who make compromises way early on in the process, should be making matriculation decisions off of.
Especially now with the NRMP match crunch which has the AAMC on alert, in which weâre getting more and more graduating U.S. medical students (due to newly opened U.S. allopathic medical schools that werenât there before) who are going unmatched and unable to find positions post-SOAP, the educational reputation of your medical school (not talking about name prestige here necessarily, but where students are actually doing their 3rd year clerkships at) in terms of the clinical quality of their graduates, will matter more and more to residency program directors, beyond just mere board scores and clerkship grades on a transcript. Itâs not as simple as âwork hard, you can be anything you want to be, and go anywhere you want to goâ, and match lists over several years for med schools show that. Residency programs know which programs put out stellar graduates, which ones put out no so great ones, and which ones they just donât know, because theyâre way too new (and the latter doesnât work in your favor when it comes to competitive specialties). There are certain ceilings specific med schools will have in terms of the yield of their graduates, when it comes to specialties and to the institutions they are able to match in at, which is alluded to in the Charting Outcomes of the Match document released by the NRMP, referenced by @dblazer.
@Roentgen I do not disagree that going to a more prestigious school may give you an edge. As you mentioned people can still get into competitive specialties from a lower tier school. (Albeit less of them) But at some point you really have to wonder if an extra 200-300K is it worth it when comparing 2 BS/MD programs. Rochester for example also matches around 2-3 in Dermatology yearly. Yes, they may match into better hospitals and yes some match into Rochesterâs program itself. However, for people not interested in academics this may not be a concern. Obviously if all else is equal you take the more prestigious/ better connected school. Unfortunately it is not always that simple.
@CRYZX,
Oh, I completely agree with you! I was more referring to a general sense, and not necessarily to a specific head-to-head match up of schools, where prestige and reputation (I consider those two to be different and not equivalent) trumps all other factors (that should never be the case, unless everything else is equal, like you mentioned). Unless youâre very affluent to begin with, cost will indeed play a role, especially if the difference between one Bachelor/MD total vs. another Bachelor/MD total is 200-300K (Yikes! :(( ), in which the level of debt (w/acccruing interest) really does impact oneâs financial health and life later on in life and may not be worth it. The reason I tell people to look at match lists over several years, is often you can find trends and patterns, and a concrete track record, which is helpful, especially if you have certain specialties already in mind and to see whether it is conducive with your career goals.
@GoldenRock thanks for all the notification information! Do you happen to know how the Monmouth/Drexel applicants were notified? And have you heard anything about the Montclair/NJMS decisions?
@kc0416 Post #3337 from @medprogrammurali informed he got Monmouth / Drexel and no other information. Suggest reach out to him. So far no one posted on Montclair/NJMS.
@J2H239 Big Congrats to your son and proud parents! I got into WashU University Scholars Program along with Danforth Scholarship. I did not receive a phone call but both letters dated Apr 5 arrived today in priority mail. One of the happiest days in my life.
@GoldenRock update: I just got a call from Monmouth today and I was accepted!! Thank you for the info
@HS2DirectMed, it is not at all a surprise that you got it. The question is: are you going to there? CONGRATULATIONS!!! If you aim to be a leader in medicine in your generation, WashU may be a nice place for you. I do not believe both GPA3.8 and MCAT 36 will be a problem for you.
@hs2directmed - congratulations. That scholarship is a great deal to make your selection easy.
@HS2DirectMed Congrats
@J2H239 I know, most of us are eagerly waiting for to know where s/he going to end up. But we need to wait until Apr 20th or so because Rice/Baylor is so late in this game. It appears, WashU is his top choice so far but Rice/Baylor holding up the final call.
@,HS2DirectMed congratulations. What does the Danforth Scholarship cover?
Speaking of Rice/Baylor, how is Baylor College of Medicine in terms of matching, prestige, reputation, etc.?
@6ofhearts, you can see their match lists here from their commencement programs they have put online, as well as from other sources:
https://media.bcm.edu/documents/2015/f1/commencement-program-2015.pdf
https://media.bcm.edu/documents/2014/58/commencement-program-2014.pdf
Needless to say in terms of the breadth of specialties and institutions their students are able to match into coming from there, going to Baylor College of Medicine will not hold you back in any way. Great tuition deal as well:
http://www.usnews.com/education/best-graduate-schools/the-short-list-grad-school/articles/2016-03-29/10-most-affordable-private-medical-schools
https://www.bcm.edu/education/schools/medical-school/prospective-students