@1CRYZX and @Roentgen
The context of previous discussion was growth/size of the medical school program. On a side note, if you are trying to gain admission for any of those programs then YOU CARE!!! to understand the selectivity.
Another side note, in terms of educational experience QUALITY and PRESTIGE of UG and Medical School and STUDENT BODY for Alpert, Standford etc are undeniable (residency match list, fellowships, Rhode scholars, Fulbright scholars, alumni impact, etc, etc…).
Let’s not get distracted. Bottom line when making such a huge investment (time, money, effort, etc) all to information is welcome. You can decide how to use (or not to use) but it’s still knowledge gained.
Don’t get consumed by rankings. The primary factor driving future success is the STUDENT.
Except that doesn’t indicate SELECTIVITY. Harvard and Hopkins are not in that list. I can guarantee you it’s harder to get into those 2 than it is FSU or even Brown for that matter. Sure knowledge is good when making your decision but this is an utterly useless piece of info.
Really? we are going than this path… Well ok, I will humor you. No list/report will be 100%, however, that does not mean than the info in front of you (specially for those looking into that particular school which data is provided) is of no value. With that single track mentality you can discard virtually all reports and data. Information on ranking is also provided with live-link giving you access to the master list and information for other schools. Again, leave the emotions at the door.
@IfnousWHO no emotion at all… I posted what I did so that people wouldn’t base their decisions on that article you linked. You still have not said what useful information it provides.
Your emotions are shown in multiple posts here alone. Just a quick check on you and I remember when you went almighty on HS2DirectMed stating his display of “deeply concerning behavior and borderline unethical” post #2840 for what you perceived as slow to cancel bsmd opportunities when tier-1 acceptances had already been secured by him (YET THE BIG PICTURE OF FINANCES AND SPECIAL PROGRAM DETAILS were still pending–PREMATURE). That alone speaks volumes on the way you view the world… PS: no need to respond as no answer back will be forthcoming from me. GL
Amusing personal attacks when your point is proven invalid. Of course there will be no response from you because you are wrong. But since it pains you to acknowledge that you use personal attacks. With your all caps rant you sound quite hypocritical.
@IfnousWHO, again, like I said, the selectivity of a particular medical school is based on so many different factors as shown by the fact that FSU, a new school in Florida, is shown in the same list as Stanford. The reasons for the selectivity for those two institutions are just so vastly different (i.e. FSU wants to recruit applicants mainly for doing primary care as per their mission statement) vs. Stanford (because it’s Stanford in Palo Alto), that just going by the percentage isn’t enough. You have to have some background info about the schools to put those percentages into context. Just looking at the numbers doesn’t really tell applicants anything, or at worst leads to wrong conclusions, since the article doesn’t really go into great detail.
I’m all for students getting as much data/information as they need in the entire physician making process, I’m a huge proponent of that. I think just as important, however, is that enough and proper context is there, to be able to interpret that data/information, so that the actual right conclusions are being reached to help in matriculation decisions. I am hardly one that harps on specific numerical USWNR rankings, vs. more to show the difference in tiers (top, middle, bottom), which are very much relevant (i.e. like a 30 rank spread between 2 schools).
Here is the final posting. Did not get any details from any one who got or rejected from Rice/Baylor interview. But 2 folks notified me with 2 different dates. Lazy to update the number sequence due to late info on St.Bonaventure. But the list is in chronological order.
BS/MD Admission Notification as of 04/28/2016.
Univ of Alabama EMSAP - 2/2
RPI / AMC - 2/29 (2 phase admission notification, second came on 4/5)
Union / AMC - 2/29 (2 phase admission notification, second came on 4/5)
Sienna / AMC - 3/5 (2 phase admission notification, second came on 4/5)
Temple / Temple - 3/3 (10 offers from 32 interviewed)
PSU / Jefferson - 3/4
Augusta U/Medical College of Georgia - 3/6
Cincinnati - 3/7
St.Louis Univ SLU - 3/7 (Note: It is not a guaranteed program like others in the list)
Univ of Rochester REMS - 3/7
VCU Virginia Common Wealth Univ- 3/8
UConn SPIM - 3/10 (Postal mail)
St. Bonaventure / GW - 3/10
NEOMED - 3/15/ Email. Also will get postal mail from NEOMED and one of the 3 UG schools.
Northwestern U HPME - 3/18 Decisions came out
Boston Univ SMED - 3/19 - Portal update
Univ of Houston - 3/21
California North State - 3/22 (Rolling since Jan end)
UMKC - 3/23
Hofstra - 3/24
UTSA FAME - 3/25
Brooklyn SUNY - 3/26 - Acceptance came on 3/2 - 15 accepted among 90 interviewed
Villanova / Drexel - 3/26 (acceptance and rejections came out)
Texas Tech UMSI - posted by someone on 3/27 but don't know the actual date the results came
UTD PACT - posted by someone on 3/27 but heard results came on 3/10
Lehigh / Drexel - 3/28 Acceptance via postal mail
Rosemont / Drexel - 3/28
Univ of Oklahoma - 3/28 - Acceptance Email
Miami HPME - 3/29 - 19 students offered admission
GW BA/MD - 3/29 - Acceptances are out on the portal.
Sophie Davis - 3/29 - Acceptance and Rejection notification
Drexel / Drexel - 3/30 - Both acceptance / rejection - In portal under Next Steps once you click on view status link
Brown PLME - 3/31 - Acceptances on portal
UIC GPPA - 4/1 - Acceptances on Portal
Case PPSP - 4/1 - Acceptance and rejection emails sent
NJIT / NJMS - 4/1 - Phone call for accepted students
Stony Brook BS/MD - 4/2
Monmouth / Drexel - 4/3 (Did this come out on 3/28 also?)
About RPI Albany - While RPI-Albany sends acceptances to 40 students, they have only 15 spots - usually out of 40, they will have 12-14 students commit to the program. This is what was told when I went to Albany interview…
Hi All. My son is currently a Junior and will be going through the BS/MD application process in the coming cycle. He has been volunteering at a Physical Therapy office and is very happy with the experience there. He gets to interact with patients etc which may not be possible when volunteering at a Hospital while in High School. Can the PT office experience be listed as Clinical experience? Will it be a negative point as to why not continue in the PT path instead of applying to BS/MD? Is it better to downplay the PT experience?
Hey, @1Tcollegemom! UAB would definitely be a solid strong middle-tier school. You can see @texaspg’s link as well. Your son would in no way be hindered in terms of the more competitive specialties available, solely based on having attended UAB - which has all those specialties in-house (https://www.uab.edu/medicine/home/leadership/department-leadership) + good research infrastructure. That being said, I would try to get in-state med school tuition at UAB if you can, assuming that out-of-state figure in USWNR is correct. Looking at the program, your son can also apply out while still maintaining his spot at UAB, so I think that’s a wonderful option: https://www.uab.edu/emsap/faq
Edit: Oops, I think we posted at exactly the same time. lol.
@texaspg Thanks for sharing the ranking numbers, but where would you say that causes UAB to fall (35 research, 21 primary)? (top, mid, bottom). I’m not sure how many they rank. I just want to see if perception aligns with ranking or if that is how people that comment about top, mid, and bottom tier view UAB. Thank you!!!
Thank you! I guess I’m just being “mom” and worrying that he made the best decision possible with the options that he had! I trust his judgment, but he is only 17 @Roentgen
@1Tcollegemom, no problem, it’s definitely understandable (not just a mom worrying thing, at least not in this case ). Even the smartest of 17 or 18 year olds have some trouble when it comes to comparing medical schools and what to be looking for now, in anticipation for the later steps they have yet to undertake. I don’t know what his other combined options exactly were in comparison to UAB, but he’s in no way hindered from the start due to having chosen the UAB EMSAP program, esp. with the ability to save your seat while being allowed to apply out, if he so chooses, if he wishes to come back home for medical school.
@chick5, so I think it’s ok to list it as a healthcare experience/exposure. I would however be prepared to be able to answer from an interviewer, why not be a physical therapist then? It’s a very valid question from someone reading it on an application. He can then discuss from that how his experience made him like the healthcare setting and wishing to go more towards becoming a physician as musculoskeletal issues are a major problem that can affect quality of life. I think it can be turned into a strength in his favor by showing that he’s done the filtering process needed to say becoming a physician is what he wants, rather than just saying from the get-go, “I only want to be a physician” without having experienced related careers. Hope that makes sense.
). Even the smartest of 17 or 18 year olds have some trouble when it comes to comparing medical schools and what to be looking for now, in anticipation for the later steps they have yet to undertake. I don’t know what his other combined options exactly were in comparison to UAB, but he’s in no way hindered from the start due to having chosen the UAB EMSAP program, esp. with the ability to save your seat while being allowed to apply out, if he so chooses, if he wishes to come back home for medical school.