Also from what I read somewhere, perhaps here?, seems they don’t like when someone applies from both the routes, Rice or Baylor UG. If true, that limits the spots the kids can take shot at to 6 from each.
PLME stats for 2017
PLME ADMISSIONS AT A GLANCE https://www.brown.edu/academics/medical/plme/information-prospective-students/admissions-facts-and-figures
Class entering 2017:
Number of applicants to PLME - 2432
Number offered admission to PLME - 96
24 Early Decision; 72 Regular Action
Number of PLME matriculants - 60
24 Early Decision; 36 Regular Action;
26 males; 34 females
Average SAT scores for matriculants over the last five years
Critical Reading: 741
Mathematics: 756
Writing: 741
It will only get tougher this year.
looking for HPME
@Hakhan
This is an oldie but goodie
It shows the past ave sat or act
For program
Focus on sat or act
Raise your score if you are serious
Also do some community
Ie read to elderly or bingo for mature etc
Thank you @upstream for guiding on how to get statistics for each program. I have covered most program if not all here for 2015 acceptances or 2014 acceptance, where 2015 data was not available. Read it as follows. In state, Out State, Total. Number of applicant, Interviewed, enrolled (This is not accepted, accepted student number could be higher) Along with GPA. SAT. ACT data for average student accepted for the program (This is not requirement, it is average of students accepted. Requirement to apply may be lower), where ever it was published. Here you go. Store it for future reference, so you don’t have to search this thread all the time.
College In state Out State Total GPA SAT/ACT
BU 78/5/0 904/79/16 982/84/16 2311
Baylor/Baylor 75/67/2 80/74/4 155/141/6
Brooklyn/SUNY 280/98/14 7/3/1 287/101/15 90% 1300-1450
CWRU 262/10/3 919/57/3 1181/67/10 2130-2400/33-36
Drexel/Drexel 318/54/12 1278/80/16 1596/134/38 3.96 1527/34
GW 1015/27/10 1015/27/10
Howard 125/25/15 125/25/15 3.7 2060/31
Lehigh/Drexel 63/7/0 323/20/1 386/27/1 3.7 1500
NEOMED 249/196/102 237/28/3 486/224/105 3.88 1413/31
NW-HPME 69/15/3 450/105/17 519/120/20 2319/35
Penn/Jefferson 72/19/9 408/83/24 480/102/33 2324
RPI/Albany 127/27/2 256/40/11 383/67/18 2256
Rice/Baylor 303/13/5 686/24/5 989/37/10
Rutgers/NJMS 174/92/19 71/27/2 245/119/21
SUNY/Hobart 20/5/2 2/0/0 22/5/2
Sienna/Albany 186/24/14 144/22/4 330/46/14 1370
Sophie Davis 910/199/80 0/0/0 910/199/80 95% 1310/29
SLU 121/0/20 484/0/78 605/0/98
St Bona/GW 44/4/3 138/19/9 182/23/12
Stony Brook 2242/16/3 841/3/1 3083/19/4
Temple 23/2/2 40/3/2 63/5/4
Brown 50/0/4 2046/0/58 2896/0/62 2218
Union/Albany 156/37/6 207/27/9 363/64/15 2231
UAB/EMSAP 85/15/6 180/14/5 265/29/10
UCSD 487/48/11 0/0/0 487/48/11 4.24
UCCOM 115/16/8 120/16/2 235/32/10
Uconn/Storrs 131/20/6 262/17/3 393/37/13
UIC/GPAA 528/85/30 0/0/0
UM/HPM 84/27/9 143/59/5 227/86/14
UMKC 383/150/66 733/170/48 1116/320/114 3.82 31
UNevada 64/40/12 0/0/0 64/40/12
UNewMexico 214/170/28 216/171/28
URochester 156/9/1 421/31/7 577/40/8 2241
USouthAlbama 55/49/14 40/2/3 95/51/17
Villanova/Drexel 19/4/1 147/45/6 166/49/7
VCU 152/24/10 269/36/10 421/60/20 3.89 2150
WashU 0/0/0 1484/??/7 1484/??/7
Wayne State 157/30/13 59/5/2 216/35/15
Has anyone heard about the Baylor/Baylor program?
@bearchichi
Thanks so much! Very helpful!
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@bearchi, the stats are way too outdated … for example Brown 2218, really? In which century?
@bearchichi, sorry tagged similar and wrong name above
@rk2017
This obviously isn’t updated, @bearchichi said as much (“oldie”), but it helps, in my opinion, give some context to the acceptances. This context includes things like IS vs. OOS acceptance rate, generally uncompetitive programs (that you may have already known, but it helps quantify relative to others), etc.
Also, I knew BSMD programs were competitive but wow, this is a whole other level to what I was expecting… I’m currently a sophomore and am feeling pretty depressed rn… all I’ve done is get my EMT cert and place at states for debate and do an internship - I didn’t realize the magnitude of competitiveness. I’m reconsidering not wasting my money on these app fees because even though I really (really really) want to be a doc this is insanely competitive and the acceptance numbers are ridiculously low.
https://www.baylor.edu/admissions/index.php?id=872132
@Hakhan how can you get emt cert as a sophomore?
@Hakhan
Yes, those statistics are not updated. To offer you a recent and realistic perspective, I know that for PennState/Jefferson, last year the acceptance rate was about 7.25% out of ~ 800 applicants. Other more “prestigious” programs will probably have even lower acceptance rates.
But more importantly, I urge you not be discouraged by these programs just because they are ultra competitive. Getting an MD the traditional route for similar tier schools will be just as low acceptance rates while likely being more competitive because traditional applicants will be higher caliber than high school students. However, you can save money and time by applying selectively to the programs that fit your interests/goals best. I applied to seven BS/MD programs that I carefully selected, got three interviews, and one acceptance. But even that one acceptance changed my life because ultimately the program’s long term benefits beat out the other “prestigious” undergrads I was considering.
If you are truly 100% (not 95% or even 98%) set on being a doctor (this is the most important question that you need to consider EXTREMELY thoroughly before even considering BS/MD) and have experience in the medical field to back up your conviction, BS/MD programs are absolutely worth applying to. You still have over a year to sharpen your test scores, get involved in research, explore the medical setting, and make yourself competitive for these programs, but you have to have the passion and work ethic to follow through.
Unless application fees will end up being a financial burden, applying BS/MD in the long run could save you regret and more. Best wishes and good luck.
Local Fire dept (I’m not “certified” via NREMT, but I can ride with other EMTs in ambulance, take vitals, etc.)
@ThoughtWanderer
Yeah, I definitely am sure I want to pursue medicine, and I actually really want to go to PSU as a prog (it’s the nearest BSMD to where I live) so thanks for the updated stats… I have shadowing experience, internship, etc. but I feel like I have no real hook - I plan to start HOSA club at my school next year; this summer I’m [planning on] hosting a 5K for meningitis and starting a nonprofit that connects patients at my local hospital system who can’t afford their hospital bills & community sponsors, but I’m not sure this is enough - I’m looking in the results thread and I see these absolutely insane HPME applicants who are top 100 in the nation which I’m definetly not and its hard not to feel dumb/useless.
However, I will continue to pursue this path and see where I end up.
Thanks for the advice, and good luck at PSU/SKMC!
@hakhan-you have a good head on your shoulders and good chance. don’t give up. To be competitive, it will be best to have a great academic achievement, min 34 ACT, high AP and sub tests results and ideally top 5% of graduating class. this year Penn/Jeff had over 1000k applicants, about 100 were selected to interview and 50 were offered seats (5%)… Siena/albany had close to 500 applicants, 46 were selected to interview and roughly 20 were offered seats… may not be exact numbers but very close. Good luck.
@suecollege
Thank for the stats/advice!
@suecollege only 500 applied to siena?
yeah i think i may be a bit disadvantaged with my race… but I think I’ll retake my act and hope if i can get a 34 and if my passion for medicine is seen by the admission officers (past my mediocre scores)
@rk2017
I know it is old and I did state this was from 2014-2015 era
Which is only four years ago
This means someone has to one by one reupdate each line for new 2018 data…
Not sure if these schools are even publishing these statistics any more, especially test scores.
@remroll and others,
Don’t be disheartened by the so few number of seats available for these programs or your personals stats relative to others here who got in. Lot of factors add up in this very dynamic and unpredictable landscape. Some of the advice I can offer you:
Talk to your student counselors, fellow students, kids going out of high school now, especially those who got into these programs or at least have applied (you still have time to catch them). Don’t be shy and hesitant. No one will think low of you if things don’t work out eventually for you since everyone knows how tough it is. Also, this is not the only way out for you to reach your end goal. So relax a little.
By talking to people you may get clues of which schools/programs to apply to. Sometimes these schools/programs know about specific schools’ rigors and may have positive opinion about them and tend to take one or more students from there every year. Also depends on the track records of how well students from your school who went in and performed in these programs. So you applying to certain specific programs on which you did enough prior home work about may help your cause better than applying to some random school offering 6 spots a year.
If it is financially not too difficult, you may want to consider hiring a professional counselor who may give some insights and how to better present yourself in both essays and interviews. And remember, try to be yourself during the interviews and stay calm in the time leading up to them. That is the best way for you to present yourself.
Also, focus on giving your best effort in every possible way, don’t be worried about results since it is not in any one’s hands. Take care of present and it will take care of future. Even if somehow you can’t get into these programs, not to worry, you will have set a trend for yourself to follow through your undergrad years. Success is more of a habit and time.
Let me share a little background from D’s experience which relates to some or all points above. As mentioned earlier she went to a super competitive public high school. Her GPA at the end of junior year wasn’t that stellar (3.83 UW) though she had perfect stats in every other sense. So we applied to a bunch of these programs but many did not bother to even give her an interview, despite their claims of holistic reviews and what not. But one of the top most programs in this arena did give her interview and admission. It seems the same program turned down a valedictorian from her school few years ago, but it seems few kids managed to get in there after and have made their mark. That may be the main reason the program knew about D’s school and the standards there and called her in. Likewise, D did extraordinarily well going there and perhaps that helped few kids from her high school getting interviews there and at least one of them getting selected in the current cycle, we may find more about others in near future.
Hope this helps. Good Luck to all.