<p>Sorry, but in my country there is score range for UC schools. There is score range that will make you stable in admission process that boost your chance of admission. Perhaps, my word choice wasn’t wise enough. I meant to say high chance. The general consensus in my country is, once you reach certain score, your likeliness of getting into UC schools dramatically increase whereas HYPSCM with AA are very hard to predict even with perfect scores. If you want to criticize this point, I’m fine and opened to other opinions. Btw lot of admission consultants, academies, internet provided me with such info.</p>
<p>what? what’s AA?</p>
<p>I want a scarf…=/ </p>
<p>Too bad I didn’t apply (and wouldn’t have been accepted anyway).</p>
<p>@RulemAll Affirmative Action. Le sigh</p>
<p>And heyyy, you dont know that @EliKresses</p>
<p>@wallysmithjr, Yes, AA is reasonable and sound. And I support it as well. But there are ongoing philosophical debates going on for how just AA is. My intention is definitely not to start any debate, but whether it is just or not is hard to gain universal consensus.</p>
<p>@awkwardpenguin13 okay! free clothing is always a plus for me</p>
<p>@RulemAll Tip: it’s not Alcoholics Anonymous</p>
<p>And the apologies continue…</p>
<p>If I have one motto in life, it’s never apologize for your own views and thoughts. They make who you are, and you shouldn’t concede what you believe because of others. If you are so committed to something that you are unwilling to surrender, it’s a sign of strength.</p>
<p>At least, that’s what I think, and that’s why I refuse to budge on most arguments. It usually leaves everyone with hurt feelings, but if that is the price to pay for belief, so be it.</p>
<p>okay alright… awkwardpenguin thx =)
only knew AA as alcoholics anonymous up until this point…</p>
<p>“it’s not Alcoholics Anonymous” </p>
<p>LOL XD</p>
<p>@rulemall haha, I thought you were actually trolling me. I just looked at your post count… 17… that explains it… CC refers to AA like 39438957953773539759 times a minute.</p>
<p>Yeah, awkwardpenguin, I’m in awe of your post count. You’re a senior just like the rest of us but with like 1000-5000% more CC experience.</p>
<p>@pengy If it weren’t for my grades, I’d have a shot. But I have 2 Fs and 3Cs…=P </p>
<p>And all of us have the same thoughts on Affirmative Action… But some of us are more polarized and some of us less polarized, and some of us benefit more and some of us benefit less… We all know we THINK the same thing of it. No sense arguing…=P Now as far as Alcoholics Anonymous goes I don’t think there’s much to debate about that.</p>
<p>@ awkwardpenguin13
… yep im new… and not american though i believe affirmative action exists in my country as well…
never mind…</p>
<p>@EliKresses</p>
<p>So i think the moral of the story is: don’t get drunk!</p>
<p>logicx24, You shouldn’t live in democratic world if you are not ready to consider others’ opinions. I never apologized for my believes. I only apologized for a rash word choice that could have been seen ‘offensive, agressive or pretentious’. If you are to refuse to budge on every argument, there’s no point of you studying in university because university is about learning and discussion etc.</p>
<p>so how does this AA thing work in college admission?</p>
<p>Admission officers try to set and keep certain percentage of each race in order to maintain the diversity of student bodies. Often they use quota. So Asians are competing against other Asian applicants to win a place within Asian’s quota.</p>
<p>woaw really? i thought UChicago said that race did not matter…</p>
<p>but what if i chose not to release info about my race? we had a choice didn’t we?</p>
<p>^Wrong. Quotas were eliminated in Regents of University of California v. Bakke (1978). Though race is a factor, it cannot be used as a quota system. It has to be used as one of many factors. Diversity is not a valid reason of quotas.</p>
<p>As for earlier post, I think I worded it incorrectly. It’s not that I’m obstinate in my beliefs, it’s that I don’t apologize for I believe. I’ve definitely been wrong in my life, and I’m not afraid to admit it. But I won’t back down from point just because others disagree. That is probably a little more articulate.</p>
<p>Oh, and I wouldn’t say that University is all about “learning.” It is for me, but for most, it’s just another qualification for a job.</p>
<p>Some schools abolished affirmative action ex- UC for moral reasons. Just as MIT doesn’t have quota for each country, some universities have their own policies.</p>