<p>It's more of an indication of his ignorance than anything else.</p>
<p>Why you are attacking him on mispronunciations when there are much more substantial things to attack is beyond me. You are wasting your time on unnecessary endeavors.</p>
<p>I just can't get passed some of the things that one of the candidates said...so i was yelling at the TV...haha
i am very anti- one side...and just simply don't agree with ANYTHING they say
so that makes my opinion very far to one side.
but overall...i thought the debate wasnt that greats.</p>
<p>as a side note...i thought that McCain was a tad bit disrespectfull to Obama...but at the same time Obama kept saying "John" which probably isnt the best way to address McCain in a formal debate.
Both of the candidates made little mistakes here and there i thought....but overall, one candidate kept twisting the others ones words really badly. and like it didn;t even make sense because one would twist the words and then the other would just go back and say...thats not what i said.</p>
<p>Oh, there are plenty of other things I could attack him for. For being incredibly disrespectful towards Obama and mocking him for presumed ignorance of foreign policy matters while his own VP pick had just gotten her <em>passport</em> a year ago. For claiming he cares about the middle class and insinuating Obama was elitist when he can't even count the number of houses he owns and plans on giving a blank check to big business and leaving the American people suffering to pay their mortgages. For claiming that he was right about the war in Iraq when the loss of 4,000 American lives and countless Iraqi lives is staring him in the face. For changing from a maverick in his own right, at least when it came to immigration, to an ultra-conservative who conformed with every evangelical whim just so he could get elected.</p>
<p>As I said, the mispronunciation of Ahmadinejad was, to me, a symbol--of McCain's other complete idiocies.</p>
<p>I thought they were pretty much even, perhaps even a slight edge to Obama. </p>
<p>However, that is VERY BAD news for McCain because this was supposed to be the one debate he should've won without breaking a sweat. Obviously, it did not turn out that way. </p>
<p>If anything, this debate made some independents go Obama's way, but I don't think that it was enough to make any kind of meaningful impact.</p>
<p>Mispronouncing one thing is not a symbol of other idiocies.</p>
<p>How about 'ignorances,' then?</p>
<p>Consistently mispronouncing the name of one of the most threatening, dangerous leaders of the decade is. I thought he was supposed to be the foreign policy expert!</p>
<p>I think they tied, or Obama won slightly. This essentially means that Obama won overall, since McCain was supposed to win this debate.</p>
<p>In any case, Obama made significant gains among voters on his policies on Iraq and his presidential appearance. This is definitely a plus for him.</p>
<p>Lots of statistics here:</p>
<p>McCain's mispronunciation of Ahmadinejad's name wasn't just the "Ah" part. He messed up like half the latter syllables too. It was like "Ah-da--Achmajidenejad"</p>
<p>Saying that everyone knows that Obama is "clearly the better candidate" is ignorant and even a bit naive. When an above poster said that, it actually surprised me, as it came from a CCer, who is supposed to be very intelligent on all accounts.</p>
<p>I heard most people watching the debate were democrats, so that's why Obama appeared to have won the debate.</p>
<p>Personally, McCain's experience showed, and he remained very calm throughout the whole thing, while you could clearly tell when Obama was frustrated and impatient.</p>
<p>As far as polls: They're all biased to some degree, so take them with a grain of salt.</p>
<p>well i couldnt really distinguish between the two seeing as "Senator McCain is absolutely right when he says..."--repeated about every few minutes</p>
<p>I love how everyone is admittied the ",but..." after the "Sen. McCain is absolutely right" line. He was showing respect while disagreeing.</p>
<p>As far as McCain staying calm, how could you say that? At times it looked like he was going to blow. You could see how angry he was getting and then he would put on a horrible smile.</p>
<p>Even if it was a tie, that's still a win for Obama seeing as how this was McCain's turf. And I thought Obama won on the issue of Iraq. McCain kept hitting the surge issue, however, Obama effectively retaliated with "We wouldn't have needed a surge had the Iraq war not been started in the first place."</p>
<p>The next debates which will be almost exclusively focused on the economy will be all Obama.</p>
<p>Unoriginal, you really can't say that. When obama said "Senator McCain is absolutely right when he says" he said but afterwards and gave a different opinion, you obviously saw McCain's ad without watching the real debate...</p>
<p>I think McCain is a good candidate, but one thing which is a huge issue for me is net neutrality, which obama is completely against. McCain however has stated that he is computer illiterate and relies on the help of his wife. The only time when McCain crossed party lines was after the election with bush when he was bitter towards him. </p>
<p>Did anyone else get annoyed how McCain never looked at Obama, but Obama looked directly at him throughout the debate?</p>
<p>Don't even get me started with Palin....</p>
<p>Both candidates have their flaws, but I really cant see a strong argument of why Obama would be a bad leader..</p>
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<p>He is a buffoon and a figurehead, not the real holder of power in Iran.</p>
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<p>I think you are reading a bit too far into it.</p>
<p>Don't get the impression I am supporting McCain, because I'm not. I'm just pointing out that attacking a mispronunciation is nitpicking that does nothing but distract from the more substantial issues regarding his judgement and policies.</p>
<p>Haha, McCain would put on the horrible, goofy smile, but I'd rather have that than Obama's loo of frustration and raising his voice to an unnecessary level. It was always Obama who would nearly yell when he disagreed with McCain, while McCain was more passive and calm when disagreeing with him.</p>
<p>talked to a native speaker. mccain was right...</p>
<p>Sure. And Merriam Webster and the BBC were both wrong? </p>
<p>amciw, of couse I'm not focusing my only criticism of McCain on his mispronunciation of a word. I merely pointed it out at the beginning of the thread and it grew from there; this is, after all, a discussion of the debates, not McCain's policies, and that was one of my first impressions of the debates. I'm not going around saying I'm voting for Obama "because McCain can't pronounce Ahmadinejad."</p>
<p>I still think it indicates ignorance, however. And besides that, it's extremely disrespectful and embarrassing for a national leader and self-proclaimed foreign policy expert, especially when so much of the world is watching us this election.</p>
<p>I find the whole thing about pronouncing Ahmadinejad amusing. I can't wait to becom a world leader so I can listen to people correct each other on how to pronounce my last name. :) (I assure you, it isn't "Smith"!)</p>
<p>I was in the car, so I only got to listen to parts of it. It bugged me that McCain always addressed Obama as 'Sen. Obama', where as Obama called him 'John' (and, from what I've read, 'Tim'). If I was Sen. McCain, I would have asked him to address me as such. And the media made no real mention of it now, had it been the other way around, the media would be all over McCain's condescending attitude toward Obama by calling him Barack</p>
<p>haha. and biden pronounced it the same way as mccain and palin did. i think this is saying something. THEY ARE PRONOUNCING IT CORRECTLY! have you ever wondered if the computerized pronunciation guides are incorrect?</p>