Olympics!

<p>uyulove,</p>

<p>I have enough common sense, thank you! They didn't say her face was too "chubby". Do you know how to read Chinese? If you don't, perhaps you should have some "common sense" to give benefit of doubt because you don't know how to read the original source. The words they used mean "too rounded" (compared to Miaoke). That's very different from "too chubby". You can have a round face without being chubby (writing out the obvious just in case). I don't agree with the government's decision (the two roles should not have been kept secret and that Peiyi should appear on the stage), but the situation is not as bad as you tried to make it out to be. Many Chinese feel Peiyi should be brought to limelight; the Hong Kong newspapers that were covering it described her as "lovely". A lot of people think she's pretty and she's getting a lot of support. She's going to be recognized by her school...etc. She's not going to grow up having people call her "ugly"...lol! If you are really that concerned, please go visit her or send her whatever instead of coming this forum to convince us how "they" bascially said she was "too ugly" (I think you were totally blowing this out of proportion, IMO).</p>

<p>I'm feeling bad for peiyi's parents.. because how do they explain to her that her voice is on tv but not her face.. she's just 7.. but she does not look bad at all.. just her teeth are a lil bit messy.. once the milk teeth are gone/or with some braces, she'll look great and cute</p>

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What the hell?! You don't like it at all? Well, stop watching the freaking olympics!
They worked very hard to get that backstroke gold and you can't even appreciate their endurance and athleticism? You're a disgrace.

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<p>Uhhh wow, people are being very sensitive. I love the sport of swimming, I watch it in every Olympics. And in all the olympics I have watched it has always been the Aussies and then the US on top. It's perfectly fine if the Chinese are finishing well, but I'm suspicious of the gal who set the world record in the fly....nobody had heard of her ever and yet she comes out of nowhere and grabs gold AND sets the world record! Sure it could be hard work, but it's very rare that anybody achieves that kind of prestige in so little time as she must have done. (Another thing....the Chinese swimmers were supposed to be sponsored by another suit company, TR I think, but they're now all wearing the speedo suits designed by NASA).</p>

<p>Redemption</a> for Chinese Swim Team - TIME</p>

<p>But hey, it could just be that the Chinese trained super well during that the time following up to the Olympics, which makes sense since they really want to do well.</p>

<p>So. Since I'm not talking trash about anybody, I don't see how anybody can call me a "disgrace".</p>

<p>It's also possible that she just didn't join any competitions til now.</p>

<p>Well that also doesn't make sense, most swimmers work their way upwards through various championships. Michael Phelps didn't get to his level without all the championships he participated in, as well as his first Olympics at the age of 14. Katie Hoff, the US 19 year old swimmer, participated in her first Olympics 4 years ago. It wasn't quite successful but this Olympics she's doing pretty well.</p>

<p>The Chinese gal who got silver behind the 19 year old Gold winner is pretty well known. The Olympics is full of surprises!</p>

<p>It happens. -shrugs-</p>

<p>I just see no use in being all suspicious. If you don't like China, then just say that. Don't mask it in random accusations. </p>

<p>Speaking of which, is Canada even in this Olympics? If so, we're doing horribly. No medals at all.</p>

<p>^^I guess they're not doing so well. I saw them in synchro diving, so they're out there!</p>

<p>Haha, no I don't hate China. Do you hate America? I'm pretty sure you don't, it's quite difficult to hate a whole country. Such an accusation cannot be claimed from some critical remarks of a couple of sports. In defense I will say that I have a lot of friends who are Chinese, and I loved watching the Chinese synchro diving team/the men's gymnastic team.</p>

<p>Does anybody know the results of last night's men's gymnastics?</p>

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For example, in English, you can say "YES, YESSSSSSSSS! YEAHHHHH!!" after winning like the American relay team did. It would make sense because of the word. The French swimmers, can't just say "OUI", "OUIIIIIIIIIIIII", "DAMN IT OUIIIIIII" when they win. It just doesn't sound right.

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<p>I actually kind of laughed out loud picturing the French doing that after their athletic events.</p>

<p>catsushi,</p>

<p>If you are suspcious of <em>that particular</em> swimmer, don't use words like "Chinese swimmerS" or "the Chinese". It's a bit misleading and confusing as to whom you were referring to. At times you were talking about "that gal" and then in other places, you were talking about "the Chinese". You are sending mixed messages here. Please keep it specific to one person.</p>

<p>That said, it is natural to be suspicious (but then I don't follow women swimming well enough to know how obscure she actually is).</p>

<p>I never used the word hate. =[</p>

<p>It's such an ugly word. Besides, I live in the US. Would kinda suck if I hated it...</p>

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If you are suspcious of <em>that particular</em> swimmer, don't use words like "Chinese swimmerS" or "the Chinese". It's a bit misleading and confusing as to whom you were referring to. At times you were talking about "that gal" and then in other places, you were talking about "the Chinese". You are sending mixed messages here. Please keep it specific to one person.

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<p>I apologize for sounding confusing, I later realized that my statement could have been referring to the Chinese backstroker who won gold when I was referring to Liu Zige, who won the 200 meter butterfly. I'll try to be more specific in the future. :]</p>

<p>PS: I admit, I'm just really bad at remembering Chinese names...o_o When we were studying Chinese history my senior year I always got so confused since Mao had many different names (at least that's what it seemed like to me).</p>

<p>catsushi,</p>

<p>G. Yang Wei
S. Kohei Uchimura
B. Benoit Caranobe</p>

<p>[url=<a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2008/SPORT/08/14/olympics.gymnastics.ap/%5DSource%5B/url"&gt;http://edition.cnn.com/2008/SPORT/08/14/olympics.gymnastics.ap/]Source[/url&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/p>

<p>In regards to the many cyclists dropping out, its actually more because they're simply too far behind than the pollution and humidity. Why would anyone stay in a race they have no chance of medaling in, especially if you're tens of miles behind 3rd place. There is the dignity of "finishing" but by the time you finish it will be hours after 1st place, and may not be dignifying at all.</p>

<p>I found the following preview and it turns out Liu Zige didn't really "come out of nowhere":
What</a> to Expect - Swimnetwork.com </p>

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China has only a handful of females in the top 25 of the world rankings this year. The young trio of You Meihong, Li Xuanxu, and Yu Xin (not sure which one is going to Beijing*) have times in the 8:31-8:32 range in the 800 Free, but a significant drop will be needed to final. Zhao Jin is ranked 8th in the world (sub-1:00) in the 100 Back, and she is a real contender to at-least final, while she has a 2:08 to her credit in the 200. Chinese breaststroke has suffered from the retirement of Luo Xuejuan, but Chen Huijia and former 200 WR-holder Qi Hui have 1:08s in the 100, which shouldn't be much of a factor, while Qi has a 2:25 and Sun Ye a 2:26 in the 200, still a case where a time drop will be needed to final. *Liu Zige and Jiao Liuyang have 2:07 and 2:08 times, respectively in the 200 Fly, which could be factors. *

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<p>I just checked where 2:07 stood before the game. There were only four faster times (all 2:06) before the Games this year. Granted, a 2-second drop can still be suspicious (Jason Lesek had 1.5 second drop from his previous best during the 4x100 freestyle relay too); but she's not really "coming out of nowhere".</p>

<p>with the way the pool is built, plus the new suits, a 2 second drop isn't really what it looks like</p>

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What the hell?! You don't like it at all? Well, stop watching the freaking olympics!
They worked very hard to get that backstroke gold and you can't even appreciate their endurance and athleticism? You're a disgrace.

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<p>A Chinese swimmer got a gold medal in backstroke? When?</p>

<p>^I meant butterfly.. oops</p>

<p>As for your original comment catsushi, you stated that you "dont like it at all," thus giving the impression that you are a sore loser for not admitting defeat when the opposing team has fairly (until proven otherwise) won. It also illustrates that you don't like how the Chinese have won events where they were not favored and came as a shock to you although they 1. experience home team advantage, and 2. are outstandingly talented and worked their butts off (particularly that they don't really have a life outside their sport). The girl who won the 200 fly was in the 4th lane, so how can that possibly be a surprise that she won gold?! As for wearing another suit, who cares?! It's not banned, is it? And what if she is relatively unknown? She's 19 and experiencing one of her first major competitions. Basically since we live in America, we only hear about Phelps, Lochte, Coughlin, etc etc. In China, I'm sure 99% of the population have never heard of them. If you're talking about doping and cheating, that's a whole 'nother story.
Basically you're pretty much giving the impression that you don't want China to win and cannot stand when you hear the Chinese national anthem played. Yes, you are talking trash to somebody, you're talking trash to the athletes.</p>

<p>Oh, what's your opinions on the American women's gymnastics coach complaining? Yeah, ok, whatsherface getting "distracted" for the judges taking a long time to put up the score. If she didn't screw up in the floor exercise along with the other chick that stepped out of bounds, the U.S could've had a shot. Besides, the waiting game was equally as bad for some of the Chinese girls' events.</p>

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^I meant butterfly.. oops

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<p>Oh, I was also a little confused about that.</p>

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Yes, you are talking trash to somebody, you're talking trash to the athletes.

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<p>Okay, if that's how you feel then that's fine, but I disagree. You have taken my comments way too seriously and analyzed them to the point where you make your own assumptions and deductions about them, which I find is quite unreasonable.</p>

<p>And thanks for finding it, fabrizio.</p>

<p>Is track starting soon? I don't know many runners who are good, but I keep hearing the name "Bolt" (from Jamaica?) here and there.</p>

<p>Maybe he is... but you definitely gave that impression. And when it comes to language and communication, perception becomes reality.</p>

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<p>Is track starting soon? I don't know many runners who are good, but I keep hearing the name "Bolt" (from Jamaica?) here and there.

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<p>Usain Bolt is the current world recorder in the Men's 100m sprint (9.72 seconds).</p>