<p>catsushi,</p>
<p>There are legitimate criticisms of China, but I and several others see some of your comments as unnecessarily disparaging China and its athletes (e.g. your comment about how you didn’t at all like how a Chinese swimmer came out of “nowhere” to win.)</p>
<p>^^I apologize if my comments seemed insulting towards China or any of its athletes. I respect all the athletes for all their hard work and dedication and did not mean to disrespect them in any way. I shall try to be more aware of any more critical comments in the future.</p>
<p>China tries very hard to be a great host in many ways, including opening three Metro lines just before the Games and building the best Olympics Village ever.</p>
<p>NBCOlympics.com</a> - Daley impressed by China subway
NBCOlympics.com</a> - Athletes village offers life of leisure</p>
<p>It's just kinda sad that people keep knocking it.</p>
<p>China seems like the rich jackass that tries to use their money to get people to hang out with them and like them, but everybody still knows they're a jackass.</p>
<p>In other news, </p>
<p>"In Chinese newspaper profiles this year, He was listed as 14, too young for the Beijing Games.</p>
<p>The Times found two online records of official registration lists of Chinese gymnasts that list Hes birthday as Jan. 1, 1994, which would make her 14. A 2007 national registry of Chinese gymnasts now blocked in China but viewable through Google cache shows Hes age as 1994.1.1.</p>
<p>Another registration list that is unblocked, dated Jan. 27, 2006, and regarding an intercity competition in Chengdu, China, also lists Hes birthday as Jan. 1, 1994. That date differs by two years from the birth date of Jan. 1, 1992, listed on Hes passport, which was issued Feb. 14, 2008. </p>
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<p>The other gymnast, Jiang, is listed on her passport issued March 2, 2006 as having been born on Nov. 1, 1991, which would make her 16 and thus eligible to compete at the Beijing Games.</p>
<p>A different birth date, indicating Jiang is not yet 15, appears on a list of junior competitors from the Zhejiang Province sports administration. The list of athletes includes national identification card numbers into which birth dates are embedded. Jiangs national card number as it appears on this list shows her birth date as Oct. 1, 1993, which indicates that she will turn 15 in the fall, and would thus be ineligible to compete in the Beijing Games."</p>
<p>Hopefully China gets all their medals taken away, but sadly the IOC doesn't have the balls to do that.</p>
<p>"China seems like the rich jackass that tries to use their money to get people to hang out with them and like them, but everybody still knows they're a jackass."</p>
<p>I see it more as the awkward kid who doesn't really know what's proper and what's not, but now is trying to fit in by the only way they think would work... by making a elaborate fancy impression. And going about it the wrong way.</p>
<p>Btw, all their medals? Aren't you being a little rude and disrespectful here? China has gotten 35 medals. You have named 3 gymnasts who MAY be underage, even though they have documents saying they are not. I think taking all 35 away is a little drastic. The Olympics is also competition between individual athletes beyond between countries. Let's not forget that China isn't the first to do anything like this.</p>
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<p>Why so much hate? Are you a Tibetan in exile or a Falun Gong practitioner who was beaten up?</p>
<p>I hate to beat the horse, but doesn't anyone find it a little strange that China is dominating the weightlifting events, with huge margins. (sometimes by a full 60 kg) </p>
<p>Either they've got some secret technique, orrr it's some fancy roids.</p>
<p>And yah, I like the awkward kid analogy - except I'd add that he has a 9 mm in his back pocket.</p>
<p>But in a way, yes, despite that, I think China does deserve this. China has been beaten down by the Cultural Revolution, imperialists, internal dissent, etc, etc for a very long time, and this is the chance they need for more global acceptance.</p>
<p>The Chinese girls have competed in previous competitions, including world cup and other major ones. Of course, they had their birthdate put down back then. If they were allowed to participate and their ages were valid back then, then why do we need to discuss their age in the olympic?</p>
<p>No, fabrizio, he's just another jealous ****** who can't even TRY to compete with those athletes as the "communist" (although definitely not) China rises.</p>
<p>As for the comment about the Chinese weightlifters.. man, what the hell is with this s***?! So much speculation toward the Chinese. Ok, why don't I just go ahead and accuse those American track athletes who've been dominating the sport for doping. OH WAIT! There's Marion Jones, Trevor Graham (coach), Justin Gatlin.
Hmmmmmmm</p>
<p>Stop complaining... if the US girls had won that team competition, the Chinese girls' underage speculations would be minimal.</p>
<p>^I just said it was a little strange. >.>
But yeah, the China bashing has do stop.</p>
<p>I just meant all the gymnastics medals they won using illegal participants.</p>
<p>"Stop complaining... if the US girls had won that team competition, the Chinese girls' underage speculations would be minimal."</p>
<p>Considering the New York Times showed they were underage well before Olympics and the speculation happened throughout the entire competition, you're full of crap.</p>
<p>"Considering the New York Times showed they were underage well before Olympics and the speculation happened throughout the entire competition, you're full of crap."</p>
<p>Using one example says nothing. </p>
<p>Check this out:
gymnastic</a> chinese underage - Google News</p>
<p>Page 1-9 is between Aug 12th - today. 9 pages in the span of three days after the Chinese team won the Gold.</p>
<p>9 - 15 is between July 27th - Aug 11th. That's 6 pages in the span of fourteen days. (with page 15 having only two results, so it's really just 5 pages)</p>
<p>So yes, that is a marked increase.</p>
<p>And if they do this to China, they should do it to any participant they suspect of having been underage. Or change the rules completely of how to verify age.</p>
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<p>As a follower of the sport, I don’t find it strange.</p>
<p>For a few years now, China has been dominant in certain weight classes of Olympic weightlifting. In the men’s division, they are very competitive in the 56, 62, and 69 kilo classes. They are still competitive in the 77 kilo class, but to a lesser extent. In the women’s division, however, China’s competitive in all the classes.</p>
<p>I don’t think China has any secrets that Belarus, Kazakhstan, Poland, or Latvia don’t have. I also don’t think that the Chinese have better undetectable steroids than the other countries. I think it’s just a better program.</p>
<p>"And if they do this to China, they should do it to any participant they suspect of having been underage. Or change the rules completely of how to verify age."</p>
<p>I think a whole lot of obvious just hit you like a ton bricks, but your head might be a little too thick to realize it. If there's reasonable suspicion of anybody competing illegally, it should be looked in to. I don't see how making sure the rules are being enforced is such a radical concept. And if people are blatantly lying and breaking the rules, then you should do something to fix that. It's like testing for steroids by making participants get a signed note from their doctor.</p>
<p>Here's the thing, it was looked into. They provided the appropriate documents. They satisfied the requirements and the rules, and let me reassure you that the IOC council is not full of Chinese people swaying the vote. I can also assure you that the people of the council is far more aware of the situation and given documents and evidence of the contrary to make a far better assessment of the situation than you. What I'm suggesting is far more drastic than what you're talking about, because it would require a full change of policy for that sort of investigation. </p>
<p>I would also appreciate it if you did not openly insult me.</p>
<p>Chinese rigged the women's gymnastics. their scores are way too high for a subpar routine.</p>
<p>Either way, the US just got gold and silver in the women's all-around!</p>
<p>I obviously don't know for sure if the Chinese girls were underage... but if they were, that's clearly cheating.</p>
<p>i love nastia</p>
<p>the gymnast gold won by the american will shut some mouths.</p>
<p>Wouldn't it be a bit hypocritical to say that the chinese are cheating and doping when so many americans are caught?</p>
<p>it's horrible that we just love to talk about the negatives instead of the opposite.
and, you definitely can't cheat in archery.. and the chinese won the women's gold, beating the korean world no. 1 and 2. this shows that home court advantage is huge.</p>