<p>If I went to a community college in a different school district than I am now, and took classes there, do I have to list that school in my application?</p>
<p>Do I count those classes with my current GPA? I mean, it was about 2 years ago since I went to that school. I did poorly and moved since then, so I started from scratch at another college. So if I list them, do I have to count those classes in my GPA? Or just list the school? I mean, looking at the application, it just asks.</p>
<p>I just basically want to know are they going to count those classes toward my GPA? Or do they just want to know for reference?</p>
<p>I read that if you got Fin Aid, they for sure will find out. I didn't get any. I mean, I got a fee waiver, but that's all. Thanks.</p>
<p>I would definitely list your past community college that you went to. The classes you took will affect your GPA but if you get caught omitting your past schools attended you will be in a world of hurt. At many schools I believe your application will not only be rescinded but it will be red flagged for further applications. The best thing you can do is to explain your poor grades at your first community college you attended in your personal statement and then explain how you really have got your act together and achieved much more at your current college. Many schools look at grade trends so I would say this is the best, safest, and and morally right route to go.</p>
<p>I messed up bad in that school. GPA was less than a 1.0. I got kicked out because I was already on academic probation. But then I realized I was an idiot and changed it all around. That must always haunt me? I mean, if I calculate that in my current GPA, I won't even have a 2.0. I won't even be able to apply..</p>
<p>If a school does a random check on the applicant I believe they can use the applicants social security number in a database to see all the institutions that student has attended.</p>
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I messed up bad in that school. GPA was less than a 1.0. I got kicked out because I was already on academic probation. But then I realized I was an idiot and changed it all around. That must always haunt me? I mean, if I calculate that in my current GPA, I won't even have a 2.0. I won't even be able to apply..
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I'm pretty sure it wont factor into your current gpa. If you have, for example, a 3.7 at your present CC, your gpa will be 3.7.</p>
<p>Universities usually don't blend GPAs from different institutions. Just send every transcript you can.</p>
<p>It depends on how the school you're applying to calculates your GPA. I was in a similar spot.....had like a 1.5, dropped out, then went back and after two years have a 3.94. Luckily for me, none of the old stuff counted b/c it either:
A) Didn't transfer, or
B) I was able to repeat the class and they only used the grade from the repeat.</p>
<p>So while they will "blend GPAs" (in order to create a cum. GPA), as long as you repeated the courses you're probably going to be fine. Now if only law schools took the same approach....that's another story though...</p>
<p>p.s.- It would be really stupid to omit a transcript. It's not some far fetched hypothetical; there's a good chance you will get caught. And then you truly would be screwed. Whatever you stand to gain by omiting it is definately not worth the risk. And like I said, you're probably fine anyway.</p>
<p>I would do the following: Answer all questions accurately about schools you have previously attended.</p>
<p>When asked for your GPA, list your "current" GPA. </p>
<p>It's impossible for us to know how the transfer school will look at your old cc classes. But, typically, credits transfer to a new school and GPA does not. So, answering the application the way I have suggested would be in line with how most schools do it.</p>
<p>Remember that your goal for your application (whether as a freshman or transfer) is to present a picture of yourself to the school that is both honest but also putting you in the strongest light possible. So, putting your best foot forward - featuring your current GPA and all your other great features - while still answering all questions honestly is the way to go.</p>
<p>Schools understand that some students experience an "epiphany" or turnaround. That they get motivated when they weren't before. That they have upward trends. And they like it. It is often a key reason for transfer. That a student is now a much stronger student than previously and wants a more challenging school. If this describes your situation, then present it for what it is.</p>
<p>This is not to say that you can get into the most selective schools on the planet. You might or might not. But students who recover from weak academic pasts do go on to succeed.</p>
<p>colleges will also look at the trend of your gpa. your low gpa at your previous CC may even be seen as the equivalent of a poor high school record. the colleges will definitely notice that you have improved your gpa substantially and may now be more mature as a student.</p>
<p>i called usc and ucla and they both told me they count my old CC gpa with the current..</p>
<p>i dont see why though, considering im not transfering over the classes to my current CC..</p>
<p>i got academic dismissal in my old CC.. thats how bad i did.. do you still think theyll look at me in a positive light, that i changed my life around? and by the way, how do they 'find out'? if i never received financial aid and left no record, im just curious how they find out.. im not saying i will omit the college, im just wondering..</p>
<p>Now that I see you are talking about the UC and ccc systems, it is better for you to post your qx and get responses on the UC Transfer sub-forum.</p>
<p>The UC systems is somewhat a world unto itself. Answers which might pertain to other publics and privates don't always pertain to that system. As well, you will find that on the UC Transfer forum, there are almost always folks who have been there/done that, whatever "that" is.</p>
<p>Calcruzer found you here (thanks, Calcruzer) but other knowledgeable UC folks will be more likely to add to his comments over on that subforum.</p>
<p>If you are a part of the CCC system and you apply to the UC system you are taking a huge risk by not submitting your past grades. The UC system has a close relationship to the community college system and there will be a great chance of you getting caught. The UC system is very understanding when it comes to past grades. Berkeley for example grade trends is one of the top things they look for in an applicant along with GPA and completion of prerequisites and GEs. <a href="http://students.berkeley.edu/files/Admissions/9258_Info_TransAdm.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://students.berkeley.edu/files/Admissions/9258_Info_TransAdm.pdf</a> (in the middle of the first page) So it would be very, very wise not to omit your past grades. And I do believe that if you are caught your application will be flagged or if they find out that you omitted grades after you graduated they can rescind your bachelors degree.</p>
<p>First of all yes, all California state schools blend your gpa (unless you've repeated the classes) and they will for sure find out about your other school. There's a company that maintains a database (I can't for the life of me remember what it's called, but I know they exist!) where they just type in your social and it comes up with a listing of all the schools you've attended and the dates. No, it doesn't list classes but if a school pops up that you haven't sent transcripts for, you're caught. Not all schools use it, but I know that all the community colleges in Cali report to it and both the CSU and UC system use it.
The dude is right, they can do anything from rescind your admission to take away a degree you've already earned if you get caught. Just send the transcripts and explain yourself, it's a way better option!</p>
<p>You can actually order/track a transcript at the community college you previously attended to see if your record exists/will appear; I believe it costs approximately $7 per institutional report.</p>
<p>If you are applying, or have applied to USC for the Fall 2008 semester, it is imperative you include your previous CC information, as I know, based on experience, that they access and utilize this system to verify enrollment. Holes (which can be perceived as intentional) in your academic history are big no-no's with Admission Committees. :)</p>
<p>So that is the method they use to find out colleges attended? If I applied to USC already and failed to include a transcript where I had only 1 W is it to late to include it? What should I do canI cancel my application I applied with a 4.0 and all major requirements completed. Thanks.</p>
<p>Yes, for the most part they utilize this method. I believe there is a link on the site that lists the universities who utilize the National Clearinghouse service.</p>
<p>I don't want to give you a heart attack Sam, lol, no need to cancel your application.</p>
<p>It would be helpful if you could provide additional information...</p>
<p>Did you attend a college/university in the past and just enroll in one course where you received a W? Or, did you attend for an entire semester (or longer), and received a W in addition to other grades? What was the reason you received a W? Was it illness related? Unforseeable circumstances? Lastly, did you mention the college anywhere on the USC application?</p>
<p>What will end up happening with USC is that they will pull your record, and if they are looking to accept you, they will contact you over the phone (that's what happened with me), regarding any discrepancies with your record. (FYI, it might delay your acceptance by a week or two.) After speaking with the AdCom, I just sent in a letter explaining my situation, (W-related, as well) and I was accepted a week or two later... </p>
<p>If your situation is a bit more complicated, it might be best to contact an Admissions Counselor at USC directly. </p>
<p>If you have any questions or want to discuss in further detail over PM, feel free to send me a message.</p>
<p>Good luck! I'm sure everything will work out and it will be smooth sailing... :) Gosh, do I wish I picked a school with palm trees, lol.</p>
<p>I know this thread is oooold, but please, someone, answer my question:</p>
<p>Can they find out about your other "schools" through your phone number or address? I was enrolled in UC Extension courses but I put in the WRONG social security number. Can they really prove that I really took those courses? I just don't know what to do.</p>