One of one million requests, but would anyone mind chancing me for transfer to Yale?

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<p>Heya folks,</p>

<p>So I got rejected from Yale the first time around, and now I'm applying again. To me, the first round of applications was just to get in. Now, I'm only applying to Yale because only Yale has what I really want. I'm currently a student at Northwestern and for a number of reasons, I'm upset with the school and feel like they made a lot of false promises. I now think I should have accepted to Dartmouth, but that's neither here nor there.</p>

<p>Anyway, here are my stats. My GPA at my high school was measured out of 100, not on a 4.0 scale.</p>

<p>HS:
Freshman GPA: 92; Sophomore GPA: 95; Junior GPA: 98.6; Senior GPA: 99.8
Economics Club President
School Literary Magazine Editor in Chief
Young Investors Club Vice President & Founder
Owner of a Watercolor Business
Varsity Tennis Player & playing manager
TV/Radio club Reporter & Announcer</p>

<p>AP Scholar w/ distinction, honor roll, NHS, et al.</p>

<p>College:</p>

<p>Sailing Team (hope to participate at Yale)
Squash Team (maybe hope to participate at Yale)
Founder-to-be of an Economics, Ethics, History and Politics Club,
Founder and writer for a corresponding magazine
Group Leader at Corporate Relations Committee for Dance Marathon - a NU philanthropy effort, largest student philanthropy effort in the nation.
Soon to be in a fraternity, hopefully in inter fraternity council</p>

<p>Grades: 3.67 GPA.... I only took three classes (not unusual at NU because we are on a quarter system) and am going to take five this quarter to make up for it because I had pneumonia for six weeks, hence the lower end of grades. I should have a 3.85-3.88 by the end of March.
SAT: 680 writing, 1490 CR+M</p>

<p>I want to transfer to Yale because of their ethics, politics, and history major, as well as some of the unique clubs they have. Northwestern does not even have an economics club that I am aware of, and further, I really am dying to join Yale's socially responsible investors club. I am going to make one if I don't get in to Yale, though it will not be the same as I won't have the same access to a great board of trustees, capital, or source of learning. I also want to get involved with Yale's skeet and trap team as I have been an avid shooter all of my life.</p>

<p>Anyway, what do you guys think? It's a craps shoot and my grades will kill me, but what do you think?</p>

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<p>Your chances of being accepted as a transfer applicant are even less than they were when you applied as a freshman applicant. See: [Transfer</a> Program | Yale College Admissions](<a href=“http://admissions.yale.edu/transfer]Transfer”>http://admissions.yale.edu/transfer)</p>

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<p>Thanks for the thoughtful reply, WritersBlues. I realize the stats aren’t in my favor, or anyone’s favor for that matter, but I feel like I might have given the wrong impression with my “picked wrong” statement. If you’re willing, I’d like to talk more about the process with you since you seem knowledgable. I really so feel like Yale has to offer something unique to them, which is why I have no interest applying anywhere else.</p>

<p>Gibby: always humbling and impressive stats. I’ve read them before; they’re both a reminder of how great a place Yale is and how hard all applicants need to work.</p>

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<p>Yale does not have an ethics, politics, and history major. It does have EP&E, but roughly 50% of Yalies who apply to the major don’t get in, so it might not be wise to emphasize that as your main reason for transferring.</p>

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<p>@clandarkfire: Thanks for the reply. Please excuse the typo, I did mean EP&E. I would like to go in to the program with some of the guidance of the professors of the economic history graduate program, which is why I confused my words.</p>

<p>Thanks for the tip on the EP&E statistics though. Transfer admissions aside, I’m very familiar with the class requirements etc. of the program, but would love if you could explain what really determines who gets in and who does not? Is it somewhat like the college admissions process, or rather based on grades in the prereq courses alone?</p>

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<p>Typing ethics, politics and history rather than ethics, politics and economics is obviously not a “typo.” As others have said, since this is a selective major at Yale, saying that your desire to major in it is a reason for transferring to Yale is probably not going to work.</p>

<p>I don’t understand what you mean when you say that you would like to go in to the program “with some of the guidance of the professors of the economic history graduate program.” Do you mean that some of these profs already know you well and would write LORs for you? </p>

<p>Participants in the EP&E major are chosen after 3 semesters. Assuming you are talking about transferring after one year at Northwestern, I think your chances of getting into the EP&E major even if you successfully transfer into Yale are less than 5% unless you for some reason already know Yale profs who would help you get in. </p>

<p>Here’s the link about applying to EP&E. <a href=“http://epe.yale.edu/undergraduate-information/applying-major[/url]”>Declaring the Major | Program on Ethics, Politics and Economics;

<p>Hey, if you really want to go to Yale, apply to transfer. You may get in. You do need to understand though that even if you are admitted, getting into the EP&E program is a long shot. If you would not go to Yale if you were told in advance that you won’t get into EP&E, don’t apply.</p>

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<p>@Jonry: I didn’t realize that that would be a bad thing to mention in a transfer essay. Thanks for the thought. I’m happy to go in to more detail about what I mean, and would really love your thinking on the matter. What I meant with guidance of the professors of the economic history graduate program is this: were I to be fortunate enough to be accepted in to the major, I’d like to see if it’s possible to incorporate elements of economic history into the EP&E concentration. I have searched the website but haven’t found sufficient information on that specific subject, so I plan to briefly email whoever monitors Yale’s transfer inquiries email address to ask if it would be possible to have a concentration with a focus on change over time in historically analyzing EP&E issues. I don’t think this would be impossible because some of the classes, such as debates over capitalism, teach moving through history. I know Yale’s the only place where I can possibly incorporate the economic history into EP&E, which is one of the reasons I am interested in transferring.</p>

<p>Even if I weren’t accepted to the EP&E program, I am still interested in Yale for a number of other reasons from broad reasons to school programs to student organizations, so I plan on applying even knowing that the EP&E hopes may not pan out. Nonetheless, thanks for letting me know that EP&E would be a longshot. That’s definitely something to consider since the program’s admissions stats aren’t readily available. </p>

<p>Again, I appreciate your input.</p>

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<p>Deep Springs is the only 2 yr college with a significant number of transfers, Y accepts very few CC students.</p>

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<p>Somehow I’m not explaining this well…</p>

<p>It’s not that hard to get accepted into EP&E. The admissions stats are readily available. Usually about a half or a little less of applicants are accepted. See [Students</a> weigh Global Affairs, EP&E | Yale Daily News](<a href=“http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2013/01/16/students-weigh-global-affairs-epe/]Students”>Students weigh Global Affairs, EP&E - Yale Daily News) See also [FAQ</a> | Program on Ethics, Politics and Economics](<a href=“http://epe.yale.edu/student-info/faq]FAQ”>FAQ | Program on Ethics, Politics and Economics)</p>

<p>I just think it would be very hard for a transfer student to put together a good application because you apply towards the end of your third semester --which would be at the end of your first semester at Yale. You’d be applying without any grades earned at Yale. You’d have a very limited number of graded papers to choose among to submit.</p>

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<p>Ah I understand what you’re saying. The odds are inherently against the transfer, not by their fault but just by their situation. I’ll definitely keep that in mind.</p>

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<p>Jonri… Im in no way as experienced as you in the matter and my post count will tell you lots but I disagree… I think collin paints an excellent picture as a student of why he needs Yale and think that will go over well with adcoms.</p>

<p>Collin… your scores are weak and your sat isn’t great so if you reported your sat last time, i might try to take the act and get a 36 and do that this time because you only have to report all of whatever you took… i.e. if you reported only sat last year you dont have to report act if you took it but if you report only act you dont have to report sat if you took it so what i’m saying is since you only have to report one type i would try to get a 36 on the act. you can do it i believe in your also get your grades up to 3.85 like you said youre at NU you can do that by the end of winter quarter so do it and then you’re on a level playing field and i think you should be in better shape than most…</p>

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<p>timtim…</p>

<p>I don’t know if Colin will be accepted to Yale as a transfer student. However, his original post made it sound as if he wanted to transfer to Yale so he could major in EP&E. EP&E is one of Yale’s few selective majors. About half those who apply are accepted. Thus, even if Colin gets into Yale as a transfer student, he may not be accepted to EP&E. Indeed, given the application process for EP&E, I think it’s unlikely that a transfer student would be admitted. </p>

<p>I just wanted to make sure Colin knows this. If he’s still interested in going to Yale even if he can’t major in EP&E–fine. However, I still believe that citing the wish to major in EP&E as the primary reason you want to transfer to Yale is not advisable.</p>

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<p>@colincampbell‌ </p>

<p>Did you get in?? I got in as a transfer and I’m trying to find other transfer students who are going to be attending with me!!</p>

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<p>Oh and btw, grades are not everything in the Yale admissions process. I am sure there are people with significantly higher grades than mine who were deferred. My SAT score was 770 Math, 600 CR. I was a top student back in high school but my college grades were not nearly perfect. However, I do have a life story/experience that got me into Cornell, Brown, Penn, Vanderbilt, and Columbia. :)</p>

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<p>Rather than posting on the old thread of an OP who hasn’t been around for 6 months (click the member name to see their last active date), you would likely get better results posting on the Official Transfer Thread a little further down the page, or better yet, PMing the members on that thread who said that they were accepted.</p>