<p>Could any out-of-state students admitted to Cal post their stats, please? I've always assumed that it was significantly harder for those not from California to get in (since they're limited to 10%, I think), but I haven't come across any numbers to back that up...</p>
<p>Check this site for some numbers</p>
<p><a href=“https://osr2.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/Access/DB/Frontends/runapp.pl[/url]”>https://osr2.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/Access/DB/Frontends/runapp.pl</a></p>
<p>THis can just show you differences between CA students and OOS. And people can post stats too</p>
<p>Wow thanks, that site’s really in depth and helpful</p>
<p>For the curious, I did some number crunching and came up with the following:</p>
<p>First-time freshmen out of state applicants: 6273 applied, 900 were admitted, 216 submitted a SIR (statement of intent to register). Acceptance rate: 14.3%, Yield: 24%</p>
<p>First-time freshmen international applicants: 4280 applied, 641 were admitted, 301 submitted a SIR. Acceptance rate: 14.9%, Yield: 47.0%</p>
<p>Being from any underrepresented state will always help you, but it looks like there were only two applicants to Cal from North Dakota, and one of them gets in. That’s an admit rate of 50%. Maybe I could convince my parents to move to Fargo or Minot… ;)</p>
<p>O.o
uhm. damn.
and here i thought Berk was a good safety school for smart kids!
not so much anymore. =[</p>
<p>If you’re a California resident it is.</p>
<p>hajikami, good job!</p>
<p>Can you post the average SAT scores for both OOS and Internationals --for applicants, accepted and enrolled, if possible?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance.</p>
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<p>I don’t think so. I know at least 7 Cali applicants who have SAT scores over 2,320, were in the top 10% in graduating class but weren’t accepted. How would you explain that?</p>
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<p>I’m rather surprised at this, actually. I’ve never heard of anyone with extremely high stats in every regard getting rejected from Berkeley – it’s been very predictable to me; it’s not necessarily the smartest people who always make it, it’s those with the best stats who most consistently do. Many times these two coincide, not always though. </p>
<p>Were these people’s GPA’s and SAT II’s or something just very ordinary? My high school graduating class had 400-ish people, and so top 10% would actually imply high, but not that high a GPA. If someone were ranked 35th or something, and they had sub-700 SAT IIs or whatever, but just a high SAT, then that’d potentially be bad if applying to a major like EECS. </p>
<p>But I’m still surprised to be honest. RML, do you have an explanation for what could have happened?</p>
<p>^ Their essays have probably failed them. Maybe their ECs weren’t that good either. </p>
<p>One of those 7 Cal rejects has an average SAT score of 2,380. I believe he’s going to Chicago instead (because of the money.) He said he also got into Princeton, Dartmouth, Brown and Rice, but admitted he would have matriculated in Cal had he received an offer. He applied to the college of engineering. Not sure which major though.</p>
<p>Look RML, I had ZERO ECs – none! There is no chance if I’d applied that I’d have gotten into most Ivies, that’s what I think at least. </p>
<p>Writing is a strength of mine, however. Maybe that helped. I applied to the COE, and I guess I might have had a relatively mature statement about what I wanted to do. Else, all I had going for me were academic things.</p>
<p>It just seems very strange that I’d have been accepted, and this individual wasn’t. How odd. Not so happy to hear that. Cal admits plenty of substandard students, and it saddens me to hear thing like this.</p>
<p>I really don’t have any idea why Cal rejected them. It only goes to show that Cal isn’t a “fallback” school. I didn’t get in during my time as well. My stats were strong. I got into some ivy league schools and Cambridge. </p>
<p>“Cal admits plenty of substandard students, and it saddens me to hear thing like this.”</p>
<p>Watch this. The answer maybe found on there. – [YouTube</a> - UC Berkeley Undergraduate Admissions](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjGI2e4GG9E]YouTube”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjGI2e4GG9E)</p>
<p>RML, I’m not sure that the site has the SAT score breakdown for anything except Male/Female… Sorry</p>
<p>@RML</p>
<p>you rejected cambridge ???</p>
<p>where do you live?</p>
<p>But RML, you were an international applicant, right? In your case, it’s more luck of the draw – you probably were an utterly stellar applicant, but those can still get rejected if international. To a lesser extent, if OOS. But Californians with perfect grades and SATs getting rejected is surprising, and I really hope it’s not true!</p>
<p>After all, Cal admits many substandard Californians, calling itself a public school and all.</p>
<p>En1gma: No; I didn’t reject Cambridge’s offer. I enrolled in Girton College and eventually graduated after 3 years. But, honestly, I would probably have enrolled in Berkeley had I been accepted. It was one of the top choices along with MIT. Both schools turned me down. I, however, got into Columbia, UPenn, Rice, Duke, Mudd, Bowdoin among others. And, BTW, I’m Italian. I grew up in Singapore/Malaysia and the Philippines. </p>
<p>mathboy98: It’s the reason why I wanted to find out how true is the rumor that Cal is harder to get into for international applicants. Hopefully, the stats would reveal that if someone can post the numbers on here. I’d like to find out if it’s really true that international and OOS applicants have higher stats than in-state students.</p>
<p>Well, the fact that Cal enrolls more Californians than not probably indicates that to an extent, unless one is to suggest that Californians have uniformly more amazing stats than all other areas of the nation. I know they admitted more OOS students this year, but I don’t think it’s close to equal. </p>
<p>Now, whether the OOS students have higher stats is another issue. Cal might for all I know be doing subjective admissions for OOS students…</p>
<p>I’m a substandard non-Californian… </p>
<p>9% of students are OOS according to CB</p>