OOS~> CCC~> UC? Is rejection certain?

<p>I have transferred to a ccc and will be staying in this school for a year and a half. Additionally I have completed 39 credits (though 10 of thisw credits will not be transferable because they are alg based classes and engineering classes) at my 4 year out of state school. I have emailed uc admissions and they didn't resolve my inquiry. I will have to complete about 50 credits in my ccc. That brings it to about 89 credits total. </p>

<p>Here is my question:</p>

<p>Should I retake everything at a ccc and start over or should I continue? My ccc hasn't given me any type of equivalence on my transcript from my out of state courses so the UC schools will have to check my out of state transcript for any course equivalncies. I read somewhere on their site that if you miss any prerequisites you will be rejected.... what if my out of state classes don't transfer? Won't I be rejected? </p>

<p>I want to try for berkeley engineering. More specifically engineering mathematics and statistics. </p>

<p>Oh and will I have lower priority in admissions because I was enrolled in a school out of state?</p>

<p>I went OOS CC -> CCC -> UCB EECS</p>

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<li><p>If you’re currently attending a CCC, you should get CCC priority.</p></li>
<li><p>Make sure you’re taking steps to gain residency while you’re at CC (financial independence, physical presence, intent to stay) so you’ll have instate tuition, OOS tuition is crazy expensive.</p></li>
<li><p>I wouldn’t recommend retaking <em>everything</em>, just the ones you don’t think will articulate. The bad news is that you won’t know official articulations for OOS coursework until after you SIR, but the good news is math/physics classes are pretty easy to guess. For example, if you took Calc 1 at your other school, there’s a pretty good chance it’ll count for the Calc 1 requirement at your UC. If it’s not too late, save a copy of your class syllabuses in case you need them for getting coursework evaluated.</p></li>
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<p>In my experience Cal (specifically College of Engineering) was pretty generous with my OOS coursework. Some classes I knew wouldn’t articulate (CS classes and discrete math are nearly impossible) but for most of the others they gave me credit, including misc. humanities I took and my math/physics pre-reqs. If you’ve got PE credits or underwater basket weaving you might need to worry, but otherwise assume it’ll transfer. And it sounds like you don’t need to worry about having enough units anyways.</p>

<p>the rule of thumb is that the UC’s will look at which school you took more units…</p>

<p>so if you CCC units > OOS units you will be considered a CCC student. however Cal’s EECS program is thought as it is already.</p>

<p>A) To gain instate tuition you basically need your parents to move to CA too. Becuase if they don’t then you need to show financial independence for 2 years prior to being admitted. </p>

<p><a href=“Criteria to Establish Residence for Tuition Purposes”>Criteria to Establish Residence for Tuition Purposes;

<p>B) The UCs have unit caps for students with two year and four-year units. </p>

<p><a href=“University of California Counselors”>University of California Counselors;

<p>At 89 units you would be 1 unit under Berkeley’s Cap and already over UCLA’s cap. </p>

<p>@failure622</p>

<p>Ah I see thanks for the advice and experience. Thankfully I have only taken calc 1, 2, linear alg, one semester of calc based physics, one semester of gen chem for STEM related classes. Another good thing is that my current CCC has equivalents for COMPSCI 61C, Discrete Math and COMPSCI 61B. Though I’m not required to take COMPSCI 61C as I can substitute for another class. >.<</p>

<p>@‌BoredEngineer</p>

<p>Those classes will all transfer over. Do not retake them.
Complete every pre-req your school offers and even travel to other local CCs if they have additional prereqs.
Lastly make sure you join your CC’s student govt and other orgs. ECs are vital to admission into the highly competitive majors. </p>

<p>@bomerr‌ </p>

<p>I was wondering if I should also bother to do honors… but the thing is I would have to do 15 credits of honors courses. It would delay the transfer process for me though, do you think it would be worth it to do honors? Also thanks for the advice. I’ll definitely look into doing student gov’t. I have done academic research projects in my previous school so that will also help. :P</p>

<p>@‌BoredEngineer</p>

<p>Honors helps a TON for liberal arts majors. My CC’s Honors transfer rate to UCLA is like 90%. I’ve seen under-qualified students with 3.5-3.6s that completed Honors and had student govt ECs get into majors with over 3.7 avg GPAs. </p>

<p>With engineering there is no honors transfer agreement so while it would look better on your transcript I don’t think the effects would be as prominent. Not enough to justify waiting an extra year to transfer. </p>

<p>A lot of engineering transfer will come off pointed. They will only have engineering ECs. If you can come off well-rounded through ECs like student govt, volunteering, maybe a sport, etc it will help you greatly. </p>

<p>Honors courses will only help if you become TAP certified as a result.</p>

<p>As someone already mentioned, you need to be wary of the unit cap.</p>

<p>However, you should have CC priority since you meet the definition:</p>

<p>“A California community college student applying for admission to UC as a junior transfer will be given priority admission over other similarly qualified applicants if the student has completed at least 30 semester (45 quarter) UC-transferable units at one or more California community colleges; and the last college the student attended in a regular session (fall/spring or fall/winter/spring) before admission to a UC campus is/was a California community college.”</p>

<p><a href=“University of California Counselors”>University of California Counselors;

<p>agree with @luckie1367. I would forego the honors. It’s adding extra units and that could really come back to screw you. Do not retake the classes that will contribute to the units. Plus, not sure you even can if they articulate to the same UC course, as one might cancel out the other. Surprisingly, even OOS classes can be seen as the same repeating course from a CC, depending on the course - and you cannot repeat course with a C- or better.</p>

<p>The key is to have a high GPA, you didn’t say what it was. Lots of ppl get in without TAP/honors all the time at UCLA. At Berkeley, being OOS I don’t think you could even apply for their TAP, which is different from UCLA’s. I believe you need to be a CA resident.</p>

<p>Ah ok thanks everyone! </p>