<p>D doesn't want to limit her search to SUNYs, but we are over-income for need-based aid and D's scores/grades are probably too low for merit $$ (2.9 gpa, no honors/APs at her school; CR/M 970, writing 550) - - so I am looking for inexpensive State U options (private schools, too - - if they exist). </p>
<p>Other factors: D is URM (black), but attended predom White schools; D would prefer a urban or suburban (w/ access to city) setting - - at the very least, somewhere that is NOT "car dependent." I don't know how she feels about Greek life.</p>
<p>There are few that are that cheap. The only ones I know of are in N. Dakota, which also offers aid for out of state.</p>
<p>There certainly are public universities with good merit aid for top out-of-state students and a few public universities with good need based aid for out of state. However, their list price is still high.</p>
<p>Both U of South Dakota and South Dakota State U are financial bargains though they may not provide the city life your daughter wants.</p>
<p>Many of the satellite Midwest state universities are fairly reasonable for oos costs. I think your best bet would be to choose a state she might like and look at the non-flagship school costs.</p>
<p>One private school you might want to consider would be Aquinas College in Michigan. it’s on the edge of Grand Rapids so it has definite access to a city. I put in your daughter’s GPA / SAT info and she would qualify for @ $11,000 in merit aid. There is a nice cost estimator on the website. Aquinas also will cover visit costs up to a certain amount for accepted students.</p>
<p>SUNY costs run about $18,000+ these days for in-state students who live in on-campus housing. It is going to be very difficult to find many, if any, OOS publics of the same quality in the northeast that will cost the same or more. Those schools that cost marginally more are generally in rural areas. Some examples:</p>
<p>Keene State College (New Hampshire) has a comprehensive fee (tuition, fees, room&board) of $27,700 for OOS students.</p>
<p>Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts (North Adams, MA) has a comprehensive fee of $25,320.</p>
<p>Castleton State College in Vermont has a comprehensive fee of $28,500.</p>
<p>These schools are not the equal, certainly no better, in my opinion, of many of the SUNYs in their peer group.</p>
<p>NYS offers some of the best financial deals among public university systems for the average in-state student (and arguably the best deals for OOS applicants).</p>
<p>This is probably way off base, but when D was a senior, our local PEO club nominated her for a scholarship, and she learned about Cottey College as a result. It is a small all women’s school in Nevada, Missouri. Was a two-year school with 95% going on to 4-year schools, but this year they are introducing a few 4-year programs.</p>
<p>It has reasonable tuition and fees, and includes a trip abroad the sophomore year. Minimum HS gpa is 2.6 and scholarships are available for ACT scores as low as 21.</p>
<p>It is very small - 350 students from 40 states and 15 countries, and doesn’t meet your criteria for urban/suburban. </p>
<p>But it might be an affordable option that would definitely be a different experience than a SUNY!</p>
<p>D did not apply (it’s too close to home for us!) but did end up at an all-women’s school in the east, where she is beginning her junior year.</p>
<p>Look into Hartwick. They give a certain amount of merit aid based on SAT & GPA.Go to there site and you can see what she would qualify for before submitting an app. I have a friend whose daughter had very avg. grades and got either 15K or $18K/yr. It won’t get you as low as SUNY but I wouldn’t immediately dismiss it.</p>
<p>Look at schools in the Univ of Wisconsin system…there are quite a few of them. I just looked @ UW Eau Claire…Tuition for out of state is $15,597, room and board is $5,950. UW Milwaukee…which is right in the city…also seems to have low tuition and housing rates for out of state.</p>
<p>UNC-Charlotte may also be an option. Looks like OOS tuition rates + housing are in line with SUNY in-state. May be a slight reach…but they have rolling admissions dates, so if she applies by mid-Oct, she’ll hear by mid-Dec…and will have time to make other choices. </p>
<p>By the way…Mass College of Liberal Arts offers discounted tuition to NYS residents.Total for tuition and R &B could be less than a SUNY school…but location is not urban or suburban.</p>
<p>UNO (University of New Orleans) - COA about $24000 including expenses. It’s in New Orleans, but not in the most urban/walkable part (it’s near the lake)</p>
<p>Xavier University New Orleans - COA also about $24000 not including expenses. A HBCU, so your daughter won’t be so UR there. It’s more central in the city.</p>
<p>University of Baltimore - COA about $23000 not including expenses. Closer to NY if that’s where you live and she can take classes (within limits) at other schools in the Baltimore Collegetown network.</p>
<p>Shepherd University - COA about $23000 not including expenses. In Shepherdstown, WV, a small town (on the MD border) where you can walk to anything but need a car to get out to go anywhere else. They would probably give her some merit aid.</p>
<p>University of Idaho Boise - $18376, tuition and fees only. No idea if it’s in a walkable part of town but I’ve heard great things about Boise, there are several schools there, and they’ll probably fall all over themselves for an east-coast URM girl like your D!</p>
<p>Canadian universities charge US students a lot more than Canadian students but the international student costs are all around $20k-25k. It varies by school and also by area of study, but my very quick and rough calculation of COA (totally international tuition, residence & meal plan) for a Bachelor of Arts for US students is $25k for McGill, $26k for U of Toronto, $28k for Queens, and $20k for Waterloo. Might be worth checking out, and there are a lot more than these to choose from in major Canadian cities. Toronto and Montreal are less than 350 miles away from NYC I believe.</p>
<p>Try flagler college in fla and elonu in nc is trying to increase diversity maybe they would have a scholarship for your d. It’s abeautifulschool.</p>
<p>(emilybee, we looked Hartwick, and nearby SUNY-Oneonta, before D decided to take off a couple of yeas. At that time, D would have qualified for need-based aid b/c she would over-lap w/ sib who has since graduated - - but Hartwick was low on the list b/c it regularly “gapped,” meaning it did not meet full need. We never considered the possibility of merit aid at Hartwick.)</p>
<p>However, their largest merit aid scholarship will not even come close to making it comparable in cost to SUNY as it does not meet full need. IF you D likes Hartwick, she should consider SUNY Oneonta down the street.</p>
<p>Thanks; Oneonta is already on the list (as is Purchase), but with D’s grades/scores many of “the usual suspects” - - Bing, Geneseo - - are out of reach schools. Albany and Buffalo may be in play; we are researching the other SUNY schools, but will have to supplement the list since many of the SUNYs are remote/rural.</p>