<p>@purpleduckman: oh snap! I was hoping no one else would notice -_- I was too lazy to come up with something else uggh…</p>
<p>Stanford I would say.</p>
<p>Michigan and its not even close</p>
<p>UVA and UNC. UMD if you want an urban experience.</p>
<p>Berkeley. Hands down.</p>
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“If its some tiny liberal arts school some where that doesn’t even have its own engineering program its not gonna be high my list of “Colleges to know about”…”</p>
<p>PurpleDuckMan, Your opinion of a tiny liberal arts school that doesn’t have its own engineering program its not high on your list of college to know about sounds narrow-minded. There are a lot of excellent institutions that have joint programs or projects with other institutions. Take Caltech for example, they have joint programs with other schools such as UCLA and USC for medical degrees. Nothing wrong with that. The students will get the best of both world, if you ask me. Just like the Chapman/UCI joint civil engineering program.
[Degree</a> Programs - Caltech Graduate Studies Office](<a href=“http://www.gradoffice.caltech.edu/academics/degrees]Degree”>Degrees Offered | Graduate Studies Office)</p>
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“Chapman is way too small to even be considered in this thread.”</p>
<p>jsanche, Haha…Sounds like you’ve been hanging around the PurpleDuckMan a lot. First of all, Chapman University is now considered a mid-size institution. They have seven schools and colleges. Their total enrollment for undergrad and grad: 6,398. I wouldn’t call that way too small. There are plenty of smaller institutions out there with fewer schools and colleges. So your definition of small is different than mine. Regardless of big or small, some people will like bigger campuses with larger class sizes and some people will like smaller campuses with smaller class sizes. Whether the schools are located in the East Coast or the West Coast, or in between, you will find small, medium, and large size campuses. This is why students need to do their research and visit the schools first before they decide what fits them. With that said, the topic of this thread: “Just interested in some peoples’ opinions on this topic. What university has a good all-around college experience? (good at most sports, great education in most departments, good weather, a lot to do on campus, good recruiters in the area, low crime, nice location, etc.)” Therefore, people are free to name whatever schools that they feel best to fit this topic.</p>
<p>Ugh, fine, Chapman is gods gift to Earth.</p>
<p>But I dint really think it was what the OP was talking about. Good at sports = at top D1 program. Not a school who’s entire population couldn’t even fill up 1/4 of Michigan’s student section at football games. </p>
<p>A joint program is fine, but an all around school should everything on its own campus. Plus the OP id interested in Engineering. So pitching a scjool no one has ever heard of that doesn’t have it’d own engineering program isn’t gonna win him over.</p>
<p>Typo… 1/3</p>
<p>I wouldn’t say Chapman is well known at all on the East Coast. I’m sure it’s a fine school, but sports were determined to be a part of a complete university.</p>
<p>bronovan: Curious, but why the hate on Penn State and Miami?</p>
<p>Another vote for Michigan</p>
<p>Disclaimer: Schools listed thus far are opinions by people that are geared towards the OP’s specific desires</p>
<p>@Unoriginal: Being from the Northeast, I know plenty of kids going to Penn State, and none of them have/had any sort of academic drive in their lives. I am sure some kids there do genuinely care about how they do, but the only reason the people I know are attracted to PSU is its high ranking…as the number two party school in the country. Same can be said for Miami (but it’s also an ACC rival so there’s that =P). Don’t get me wrong, I would love to go to a couple of PSU parties on some visits, but I would not want to attend a school mostly devoid of a general interest in academics. So I just think BC deserves to be clustered more with schools like Wake Forest and UVA than PSU and Miami, but I get you were just going by segments of USNews.</p>
<p>bronovan–Penn State is a large school and I agree that there are probably many clowns who go there to party and such, but it is a large research university that generates a lot of talent. </p>
<p>As a University of Miami student I will also defend my school in saying that I’m sure there are some who bought there way or in or got in somehow and party their asses off, but I’ve met many talented students with both ambition and aspiration. </p>
<p>And yes, I did go by USNWR just to make some sort of arbitrary tier list, and BC is a fantastic school and l I will say it is a step up from PSU and Miami (though not too large a step) academically, and it is closer in ranking to UVA and WFU, but again I just made arbitrary tiers. With that said, I have seen many kids from BC who were crazy drunks at their Catholic high school and continue their shenanigans at their Catholic BC as well, and at UVA the Southerners absolutely live for partying. To each his own…!</p>
<p>@Unoriginal Very true, I know party animals at Harvard and Williams and I’m sure serious and motivated individuals attend both PSU and Miami. The less serious ones just make the most noise I suppose =P</p>
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“But I dint really think it was what the OP was talking about. Good at sports = at top D1 program. Not a school who’s entire population couldn’t even fill up 1/4 of Michigan’s student section at football games.” </p>
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“sports were determined to be a part of a complete university.”</p>
<p>So… I guess those schools with smaller student body such as Caltech’s student body of 2,175, or Johns Hopkins’s student body of 4,997, and other fine institutions out there wouldn’t be able to deliver a well-rounded education because they’re not a D1 sports schools. Correct? That’s absurd! LOL.</p>
<p>I thought the purpose of going to college is to seek a well-rounded academic education. I didn’t realize that sports should be the priority of an academic education. According to the OP post, “good at MOST sports”, didn’t say D1 or D3. Sport is for enjoyment, not a requirement for any academic education. The post indicated, “GREAT EDUCATION in MOST departments, GOOD WEATHER”, the OP is specific about the WEATHER! If we based on weather, that pretty much eliminated a lot of the schools in the East Coast and certain parts of the country. The OP also indicated, “LOW CRIME, NICE LOCATION”, this will also eliminate a lot of the schools in the disadvantaged areas. The only thing the OP didn’t mentioned specifically was the size of the schools. There you have it.</p>
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“A joint program is fine, but an all around school should everything on its own campus. Plus the OP id interested in Engineering. So pitching a scjool no one has ever heard of that doesn’t have it’d own engineering program isn’t gonna win him over.”</p>
<p>Let’s not forget that the OP also mentioned business program not just engineering. Keep in mind that people are just recommending schools here. No one is trying to win anyone over. It’s not a battle! There are a lot to consider when selecting a school. Can the OP afford to attend these schools? Some schools have excellent merit-aid and some don’t. Again, bottom line is up to the OP to find the right fit.</p>
<p>bronovan–Yeah I agree the noisy ones give the school a bad name. Every time I think about some of the clowns at Miami I remember how smart and hardworking my friends are and realize not everyone just goes to college to party!</p>
<p>OK simple enough. Here is Keplingers report on the best value for your money for Public Unversities:</p>
<p>[url=<a href=“http://www.kiplinger.com/tools/colleges/]Kiplinger.com[/url”>Best College Values, 2019 | Kiplinger]Kiplinger.com[/url</a>] </p>
<p>UNC
Florida
UVA
Texas is 14</p>
<p>Yes OCELITE, because filling up a high school sized stadium to watch D3 football is a blast. </p>
<p>This is for an all around college, not an all around academic experience. If it was we could throw in some ivies. Of course the sports situation at the school has nothing to do with its educational value, to even think I meant that is ridiculous.</p>
<p>Good weather is up to interpretation. Some people like it hot, some cool. Almost everyone would say a D1 program is more entertaining sports wise than a D3 program.</p>
<p>The OP said Petroleum Engineering is his main goal, and he’d like to also get a BBA. Even if they were of even priority it makes no sense to go to two colleges to get both when there are plenty that do both better.</p>
<p>I realize thus is up to the OP and i’ve mentioned cost before. I just feel the need to respond when some one is making some out there pitches.</p>