Other combined degree pgms.

<p>has anyone applied to any guarenteed admission/ joint degree dental programs
please post your stats because i will be applying next fall and want to know if i have any real shot</p>

<p>I've been looking into a couple of these schools and I was just wondering if anyone here had ever considered applying to them. Compared to the BS/MD programs, how are they in terms of selectivity? What are your thoughts?</p>

<p>Hello</p>

<p>I was accepted to the U Penn Biodental Program, UOPs accelerated program (5,6,7 years) and NYU...
My stats are:
1480 SAT1
740 Biology SAT2
760 Math SAT2
680 Writing SAT2
3.9 out of 4.0 High School GPA
Dental Work Experience</p>

<p>Don't forget - the essays count a lot too!</p>

<p>"I was accepted to the U Penn Biodental Program, UOPs accelerated program (5,6,7 years) and NYU"</p>

<p>So which one are you choosing and why?</p>

<p>I have chosen the BioDental Program - 3 years at Villanova University and the next 4 at U Penn Dental
My reasons for choosing U Penn's program:
- Financial Aid
- Reputation of the university
- U Penn's mission: to create the dentists of tomorrow
- You are not guarenteed a spot at UoP upon acceptance to their program. you still have to interview at their dental school. On the other hand, if you maintain a certain GPA and score a minimum on the DATs, you are guarenteed admission to U Penn Dental.
- I did not want to spend 7 years at the same university
- And others that I cannot remember right now...</p>

<p>Good Choice! I am a UPenn SDM graduate.</p>

<p>Does a BA/MD/PhD program exist? If so, where?</p>

<p>I don't know about a BA/MD/PhD program but I do know that Northwestern's HPME let's you get your BA/MD and they also let you select whether you want to do a MD/PhD. I believe you get into HPME first and then sometime before your third year, you select whether you want to do the MD/PhD program too. It's supposed to take 10-11 years for you to get your PhD through the program.</p>

<p>I'm applying to BS/DDS programs</p>

<p>3.7 UW
SAT: 1360 (Old SAT)
SAT2s: 730 (Writing)
its kinda like a 2090 on the new SATs?
- Taking IC, 2C, and physics in October</p>

<p>Internship at a dentist office this summer
had an internship in a department of pediatric cardiology
President of Medical Explorers
President of Italian Club
VP Interact Club
Varsity Fencing Team (Captain 10th, 11th, 12th)</p>

<p>I'm a nationally ranked fencer, just recently finished 3rd in the country
is being a recruited athlete help any of your chances into getting in these programs? </p>

<p>I'm interested specifically in NYU for i will probably be applying early decision there.</p>

<p>you'll be competitive at a lot of programs...nyu s undergrad tends to be more selective than their dental school so if you can get in the undergrad than you have a fairly decent shot but keep in mind the nyu's dental school is the most expensive in the country and unless you've got parents who are pretty deep in the pockets you will dental school at nyu will cost ~$80 000, i've heard a lot of other bad things about nyu's dental school too, but their undergrad seems pretty solid so go for it and good luck
if you had asked me two weeks ago i would have told you for sure that i would be applying to combined dental programs also but now im not 100% certain if thats what i want to do</p>

<p>RPI/AMC also has the same thing. You're guaranteed a BS/MD with DR or "Distinction in Research." But you can instead opt for a BS/MD/PhD once you're 4 years into the 7-year BS/MD program. In the end it'll take 10 years for all three degrees usually. Some great graduates from this program at top places though.</p>

<p>i hear they're easier too get into</p>

<p>ive been told to stay away from DO's, not because they arent as "good" but because if you work in a city on the east coast (New York, Boston) people will rather choose MD's over DO's just because of the MD/Doctor association, its just harder to be as successful as a DO.</p>

<p>and yes they are easier to get into</p>

<p>what exactly is a DO?</p>

<p>Doctor of Osteopathy.
<a href="http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002020.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002020.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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ive been told to stay away from DO's, not because they arent as "good" but because if you work in a city on the east coast (New York, Boston) people will rather choose MD's over DO's just because of the MD/Doctor association, its just harder to be as successful as a DO.

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<p>Yeah, but if you want to be a doctor, it's better to get into a DO program than not to get into any medical school at all. Beggars can't be choosers.</p>

<p>id try everything and anything before i go to a DO..that includes applying to foreign med schools and taking a year off to improve.</p>

<p>You'd take a foreign med-school over a DO program, and by that I take it you're including those Caribbean med-schools? Woah, that's a pretty darn strong statement there, don't you think? You're the one who talked about the problem of 'perception' that DO programs have among certain patients. Well, think about the perception that Caribbean med-schools have with those same patients. I would argue that it's probably worse.</p>

<p>an MD is an MD, and its not like those schools give different board certification tests.</p>

<p>lemme ask u sumthin sakky, have u ever been to a DO doctor?</p>

<p>Oh and btw, the chief pulmonologist at Good Samaritan Hospital near me just hired an MD who graduated from a Carribean Med School over a Harvard Med Grad.</p>

<p>He wouldnt hire a DO, so it seems like where the doctor went to med school didnt make a difference, he was board certified, amazing practical skills, very intelligent, very friendly...what more do you need.</p>

<p>Well, I will say that I have personally never asked exactly what degree (MD or DO) my doctor has had. And I would venture to say that the vast majority of people never inquire, or even know the difference. After all, DO doctors are completely licensed to practice medicine just like MD doctors are, and at the end of the day, that's all that really matters. If your doctor is board-certified and had completed a prestigious residency, who cares whether he holds an MD or a DO? </p>

<p>I would also ask why exactly this guy you are referring to wouldn't hire a DO? After all, if a DO was also board certified and had amazing practical skills and was intelligent and friendly, then what would the problem be? I would argue that he would at least be equivalent to the guy who got an MD at the Caribbean med-school.</p>

<p>After all, if you want to go down that road, why stop there? Maybe people should hire doctors based on their old MCAT scores. Or maybe even their old SAT scores. Pretty soon you could end up with a situation where you choose doctors based on what grades they got in 7th grade algebra. </p>

<p>And besides, I never said that all Caribbean MD people are bad. But you know as well as I that most of the students who are there go there because they couldn't get into an American school (either MD or DO). And there have been constant warnings about people going to Caribbean MD programs and either not graduating (the attrition rate is significantly higher than that of most American MD or DO programs), or if they do graduate, not qualifying for an American residency.</p>

<p>But don't take my word for it. Perhaps you'd like to get the opinion of other doctors on this forum, like P<em>sedrish</em>Md. Maybe we should ask him what his opinions are of DO's and of Caribbean MD's.</p>