<p>out of state rising senior
2170 SAT I 780 W, 700 M, 690 V
30 ACT (first time, I may retake it)
19/167 in class
3.9 GPA
SAT II: Math IC 710... I'm taking another in the fall</p>
<p>extra curriculars:
- varsity soccer (JV two years, Varsity 2 yrs)
- varsity swimming (4 yrs varsity)
- sports editor of high school newspaper
- sunday school teacher for 6 yrs
- acolyte at church
- friends of africa club (school-run)</p>
<p>i will have taken 5 AP's by the time i graduate and 8 honors</p>
<p>I'm also a big legacy... my great-grandfather founded the psychology department at UNC and i've had 17 relatives attend in the past 50 yrs or so... will this help me?</p>
<p>i'm applying to dartmouth early, but theres a BIG chance i won't get in, this is another major school on my list... thanks!</p>
<p>To paraphrase Fiske, unless you're a star linebacker or Michael Jordan, you're not getting in as an out-of-state student. The only thing that might help you is your legacy, which is pretty impressive. Give it a shot, but don't get too excited over it.</p>
<p>Did you even read his post? He would be borderline without the whole family involvement thing, but considering his family history he has a very good shot.</p>
<p>Yes -- did you read mine? I acknowledged the family connection will probably help. The fact remains, however, that UNC is by far one of the most difficult schools in the country to get accepted to if you're not in-state, and the majority that do get in are either athletes or incredible students with absolutely amazing "hooks." Legacy is a good one, and an ancestor founding a department is even better, but is it enough to put you that far ahead of the rest of the pack?</p>
<p>I didn't say "no shot" -- I said don't pack your bags quite yet.</p>
<p>yeah, this is why i'm concerned, i've been told my whole life i'll be able to get into unc b/c of my family connections... but as i've grown older and looked into the school more, i've realized just HOW selective this school is for out of staters like me... i have a ? for anyone... i was also told by my family that if i have a direct legacy, i'm treated as an in-stater... no one is sure if this rule still applies or if it has stopped ... anyone know?</p>
<p>I just read on another board that UNC has an in-state quota system. That might determine whether or not the legacy will make a difference. I don't know whether it's true or not, though.</p>
<p>"To paraphrase Fiske, unless you're a star linebacker or Michael Jordan, you're not getting in as an out-of-state student."</p>
<p>Fiske also says that its harder to get in to UNC from out of state than Duke. While admission rates might back this up, there's no question really that Duke has a more competitive applicant pool than UNC. So just because the admission rate for out of state students is extremely low doesn't mean its impossible to get into to. That being said, if you get in it will be primarily because of your legacy standing.</p>
<p>OOS legacies are NOT considered as in-state for purposes of admission. There is a separate category for OOS children of alums, with a specified number of possible admits. It is true, however, that OOS children of alums are going to find admission much more likely than OOS students without that connection.</p>
<p>I suggest you go to UNC Admissions website to the "FAQ" section for good info. Acc. to that site, a legacy is a student whose parent or step parent went to UNC, so other relatives don't count for this category. However, certainly significant ties to the university have to count as those "intangibles" that the admissions office might consider.</p>
<p>That's an interesting distinction. At most schools I've looked at, it's parents and grandparents. I guess at a large state school, however, they might need to trim things down by limiting it to just parents.</p>