Out of State Legacies ONLY

<p>To all out of state legacies:</p>

<p>what were your stats (unweighted GPA and SAT/ACT scores), and when (as in year) did you apply? please also indicate if you applied ED or not.</p>

<p>Don’t rely too much on stats. UVa really does practical holistic admissions. Put effort into the essays and in taking the most difficult academic schedule you can reasonably handle in high school. </p>

<p>If you apply early action, keep working hard in high school. Many students are deferred in their early action admissions decision, so grades for the first half of their senior year then become very important.</p>

<p>Most of the sons and daughters of alums that I know were not admitted. One person who had great stats and who was denied admission has a father who is an alum and a large financial contributor to the U.</p>

<p>just trying to get a feel on what the average stats where</p>

<p>You should be talking to the legacy admissions counselors at the alumni association. They can review your record and give you a very realistic and specific read on your chances. It is a very helpful service available to legacy applicants.</p>

<p>Generally speaking, legacy status equates to in-state admissions criteria. So probably a 40% admissions rate. So as Charlie says, most legacies get rejected. But that may reflect the fact that a lot of legacies apply to UVA as a stretch school because of the break they get.</p>

<p>As has been said numerous times before, UVA is more about the transcript than the test scores. 650/650 is likely all you need for test scores as a legacy. On the transcript, you have to be taking the hardest classes offered at your high school and getting almost all As. Like only 1, maybe 2, Bs per year.</p>

<p>It’s very hard to know. My S, an OOS legacy from the NW did not get into UVA with a 3.95 in unweighted GPA from a top WA high school, and decent but not stellar test scores in the range you state above (ACT 30, SAT II 700/720). I doubt there were any huge issues with his app, since he was accepted into Berkeley, UCLA, and Michigan (the other “top” state schools, where we have no connections, btw). He also made it very clear that UVA was his #1 choice by far with the legacy and admissions offices.</p>

<p>So in the long run you need to keep all options open. He is quite happy where he ended up, however, so all may be for the best, but it was a very unpleasant time all around.</p>

<p>So</p>

<p>The median SATs for the freshman class this year was 666 verbal and 684 math. Since that is for the entire class, the stats for the legacy/OOS pool should be a little lower.</p>

<p>81 – the unusual thing about Cal and UCLA (while still hard to get into) is that they now are easier to get into OOS than in-state. Because CA is such a huge state, those schools get massive amounts of very highly qualified in-state applications. Since their budgets are so awful, they’ve massively expanded their OOS/foreign admissions to bring in the extra revenue from OOS.</p>

<p>Not only is UCLA easier to get into OOS, they have a very aggressive OOS recruitment program that includes current students cold calling potential applicants. We live in NOVA and received cold calls both this year and last soliciting my kids to apply to UCLA as a “good fit.” Neither plans to do so.</p>

<p>No doubt that the UC’s have opened their doors to OOS apps, especially in our region. I really only mentioned the other schools as an indicator that he was a competitive applicant at schools that are reasonably considered peers (including the Ivy that he attends). Looking at average OOS legacy stats is thus only so helpful in predicting your own outcome.</p>